Do you guys have no middle ground?
April 12, 2017 3:05AM
edited April 2017
It's either cg releases completely useless, underpowered toons like gar, super trooper and Pao or god like characters like chaze and zaul. Is there no middle ground here? It's hard to get excited for characters that are utter garbage and offer no strategic advantage against these god-tier characters. It's just becoming disgustingly unbalanced.
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Also, do you really want every new toon to be meta? People already complain about the quick meta turnover rate. If every new toon was arena viable, there would be a new meta every week.
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I would like a direct Zaul counter though, Bodhi is laughable and Rex is not a direct counter, despite being a good one.
Also, Gar's kit looks solid to me. Turning Empire in to counter attackers looks useful. His AOE skill also looks pretty imposing - 3rd highest AOE per GG in damage and it has a 2x multiplier for enemies <50% TM ... and for enemies over 50% TM it yanks 30% TM. That's pretty darn strong. Arguably he now has the best aoe skill in the game. His speed and health aren't terrible. I think he looks like a good balanced release.
With multiple cleansers he very much is a direct counter with 90%+ win rates. Rex leader is now up to 32% on GG, Maul's is down to 43% - the #1 used team continues to increase in popularity and it's a Rex-led team. Now 31% of all #1 ranks on GG use a Rex led 3x cleanse team. Most common single team comp by far.
I hope you're joking, because people want to see actual cool and known characters in this game, not just some random teddy bears that we see for like a half hour
you'd be suprised
And Wicket W. Warwick ain't known by most SW fans?
The middle ground is characters like Sabine, a good character but ultimately pointless because why invest in her when you can invest in Chaze or Zaul more easily for better payoff
Until they balance the meta/overpowered characters there will never be a middle ground because even the middle ground characters are a **** idea to use thanks to the meta characters
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+1 to this. I know current meta has a little more flexibility than some previous ones (Dooku/old ben evasion meta, Wiggando meta), but wouldn't it be wonderful to have 10+ viable teams for top 10. I know, I know... this is a ridiculous statement worthy only of scorn and derision.
I can assure you that the devs have no intention of balancing the characters in a way that it wouldn't payoff to farm/gear/buy meta characters.
I'd just accept that fact and move on, or you're gonna be disappointed all day every day.
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There is no toon that can't be made better with Speed -- and as such -- made better then other toons with more speed. Well... okay, some toons won't be good even with +200 speed.... I give.
I mean I obviously don't want a completely even playing field where you could go in with a nightsister team and beat for example a wiggsando-chaze but just a little diversity would be nice.
-New shards are completely ruled by wiggsando for the entire top 100 because every other better or even on-par combo needs either a higher level or much longer to farm
-Slightly older shards like mine are a mix of wiggsando, and nihilus leads with dooku, sith trooper, vader and misc 5th sith, and very recently some rex leads started appearing - this is the most variety there is and it's still stale as hell because the rexes are just replacing the nihiluses
-Established shards seem to be almost exclusively zaul and rex from what I read/see
There are many middle ground characters in this game, and there are many characters that can be either below average or they can be fantastic, depending on the team they're in, and there are many characters that are poor in the arena, but can do wonders in other areas of the game. Also, there are characters that are great on some shards and for low to mid lvl players, and other characters that matter more when you're lvl 85 and on an old shard.
You talk as if being no.1 in the arena is the only thing that matters in this game, and that lvl 85 players in old shards with zetaed characters are all this game is about. Characters like Talia, Chewie and jawa are indispensable for beginners. Luminara and Phasma are fantastic for mid lvl players. A character like tusken shaman is poor in most parts of the game, but can work wonders with a zetaed Vader in the HAAT raid. Clone sergeant is normally an average character, but can really shine on a clone team. Jedi Consular is a below average character for advanced players, but he has an awesome ship. The vast number of characters in this game have their uses in different stages and areas of the game.
I would agree though that there are some characters that should be improved, as they are below average in all stages of the game, and will inevitably end up disappointing people who have invested in them (i.e. stormtrooper, lobot, mob enforcer and possibly Pao as well). But I think it's good with almost OP characters that require a lot of time and effort to acquire (GK, Baze, zeta Maul), so there's always something to strive for.
PS. I don't understand why you'd call Gar underpowered. He seems to have some fascinating abilities, that could be amazing on a counter attack team, as he'll be assisting and slowing all the time, and he seems to have a great AOE attack that will constantly have its cooldown reduced. His leader ability will be interesting as well.
But thanks for new chars, I'm happy with it !
I won't be that sure about breaking the meta. Even though I deeply agree about the funny part of playing him. But 50% is not that much to call it a meta breaking, considering no DS chars are cleanser either way, especially not empire chars. Will we see more Magmatrooper, resisting to debuff easily ? Will RG be back in the meta, since he can reduce CD of Gar and bring what a counter team lack -> Defense and Health UP ?
^^ This guy right here. We need more reasonable heads like this.