I Miss Tournaments -- DEV RESPONSE
May 1, 2017 4:00PM
edited May 2017
No other mode of this game has come anywhere close to being able to use my full expansive roster like tournaments were. The rewards were really good when it came to credits and gear, the fighting, however monotonous was a lot of fun to try out the top ranked teams. Cheaters did knock some people down but playing for a couple hours against lots of teams and getting great rewards made up for it.
Is there any update on how the "re-work" or "fix" or blocking cheaters is going? or has the whole tournament idea been completely scrapped, for the rumored guild war?
Is there any update on how the "re-work" or "fix" or blocking cheaters is going? or has the whole tournament idea been completely scrapped, for the rumored guild war?
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I imagine that they are on the back burner. There were a LOT of issues to fix, and I'm sure that essentially meant they are starting from scratch.
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This. I'd rather have dental work done than participate in a tournament - it won't take as long and at least I'll be better off in the long run as a result. That and I enjoy sleeping.
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Exactly, I did not have time to sit down for 2-3 hours and try and figure out how best to coordinate my squads such that I could use the least amount of ally points and gain the greatest advantage. It was like pulling teeth. Not to mention the whole structure was ridiculous. Some noob who just started could have a higher rank than me just by winning slightly more battles in his category.
That, tournament is too long and with so many failures.
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They operated on the same sort of philosophy as fleet and squad arena. There was really no point to playing for 8-10 hours. Just wait until an hour or two before the tourney ends to join it for the first time so you have a fresh 5000 man tourney shard and spend your ally points.
There was really no advantage to be gained by starting early UNLESS you had boatloads of ally points saved up and only a few decent teams.
So, to summarize my viewpoint: Most people hated tournaments because they weren't competing in them in a style that was conducive to them ranking highly.
Personally I preferred the tournament character release style cadence over this one too. I stopped buying crystals shortly after they switched it over.
Most people hated it because it was unfair. people played against players that were their relative strength but were ranked in the same system. People with weak rosters could easily be ranked far above people with whale rosters if they just won more battles. The ranks were based on the amount of points you racked up not your rank in the tournament like Arena. Not to mention the cheaters on 2/3 of the tournaments that occurred.
There has to be always an outlier.
**** right! glad to be rid of them.
No, I was playing against people that had roughly the same amount of tourney points as me rather than the matches having anything to do with strength. As I gathered more points and climbed higher in rank, I would start to face tougher teams... because they were winning more battles.
Either way, people got confused and looked at it like a marathon when in reality they should have been treating it like a zerg... Same as fleet and Squad arena: You're better off waiting until the last minute to put in all the attempts you can. People that did so had much better luck than the ones who treated it like a marathon.
So, as I was saying, it was people's misperception of the tourney that made them hate it (as you've proven by saying what one of the misperceptions was).
I get your strategy and I'm sure it worked, but how do you think they chose your opponent? Yes, it was taken from players with close to the same amount of points, but it was also dependent on their strength. They would never pair you with a player who had Chewy lead and had only been playing for a month who might have had the same amount of points. They had categories of players separated by strength; in these categories, they would pair players with the same or close to the same amount of points. It was completely possible for a player with a very weak line up to pass you and never have even the possibility to face you as an opponent. When the tournaments were happening, I read many reports that I assumed were official describing this as the set-up. If it was wrong etc., I apologize but unless I see something official that states otherwise, I still hold to this as the set-up.
I definitely think that our initial design around Tournaments was actually really fun, but somewhere along the line, we dun goofed. I, personally, think there's still a lot we could do with the tournament structure and ways we could fix it so that it wasn't... you know... "not fun", and I really would like to revisit the concept in the future.
That said, I don't think there's a universe in which Tournaments comes back to life any time soon. We have quite a bit on our plates at the moment, and our existing content is doing a much, MUCH better job at the whole, "players enjoy it" thing.
So yeah, more content.
AHHH. I see what you're saying. No, they were also separated into level brackets, but not by squad/roster strength. If you were 85, so was anyone in your tournament bracket. Now it didn't differentiate if you had been 85 for a year or a day, but it did separate by level, after that it was first come, first served until the bracket filled up, then they'd start a new one.
The opponents were chosen the same way the ones are in squad and fleet arena: Randomly, from a pool of people they deemed to be within range of you attacking based on your accumulated points/rank
Agreed. Tournaments were a great idea, but there were fatal flaws.
1. Took way too much time
2. Once you got in the top couple hundred, every team was the same
I think the only goof you guys made was not letting people know that they could join the tournament late and still be competitive. People thought they had to fight the whole time it was up to be competitive and it made them mad when in reality they didn't have to.
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Take this guy for instance. Thought he had to compete all day when he could have just logged an hour or two at the end and been fine.
Right, and that inherently is what I didn't like about the tournaments. I know people who had no problems with it, but I certainly didn't enjoy that fact. What I did like was the concept, but as the dev comment above states, I did not like the execution. I'm happy they have moved on to create better content for us all.
What are you talking about? Players were ranked based on total points collected from beating people right? If you start at the end of the event, you have no points and you cant get a good rank.
actually that isn't true. You were placed onto a leaderboard when you joined the tournament, so people who joined right at the end were on a leaderboard with other people who had joined late/right at the end. an hour of good hard hitting was usually enough to get good rewards on those shards.
From everything that I read around that time, this is true. Yet another problem I had with the execution of the tournaments.