Now with zVader getting his bugfix...
...and seeing that people who zeta'd the buggy Barris got their upgrade costs refunded,
I sincerely hope that EA will do the same and refund all zeta Vaders.
Many Vaders were zeta'd to solo the Rancor which used to be possible.
Let's see whether they keep in line with their former decisions or make it a rip-off this time.
The Wiggs/Chaze nerfs of taking out their unique bonuses were kind of unforeseen, too, after Wiggs going for a year or so without any "bugfix" - and no statements that these abilities were malfunctioning whatsoever!
I'm sure many will be happy to see those combos nerfed but for anyone who's raised those (at times kind of pay-to-play) toons, it's naturally a rip off too.
Those changes may seem like good balancing to some but I suppose that a great lot of players and possibly whales will just be angry. And legitimately so.
The combo-mechanics weren't even stated to be bugs but working as intended, so we finally got the first NERFS in SWGoH history.
And another buggy zeta being fixed is a good reason to demand consistency and that affected players should get refunds like zBarris players did.
The patch isn't live yet so it's difficult to say anything - but this smells like a rip off already.
I sincerely hope that EA will do the same and refund all zeta Vaders.
Many Vaders were zeta'd to solo the Rancor which used to be possible.
Let's see whether they keep in line with their former decisions or make it a rip-off this time.
The Wiggs/Chaze nerfs of taking out their unique bonuses were kind of unforeseen, too, after Wiggs going for a year or so without any "bugfix" - and no statements that these abilities were malfunctioning whatsoever!
I'm sure many will be happy to see those combos nerfed but for anyone who's raised those (at times kind of pay-to-play) toons, it's naturally a rip off too.
Those changes may seem like good balancing to some but I suppose that a great lot of players and possibly whales will just be angry. And legitimately so.
The combo-mechanics weren't even stated to be bugs but working as intended, so we finally got the first NERFS in SWGoH history.
And another buggy zeta being fixed is a good reason to demand consistency and that affected players should get refunds like zBarris players did.
The patch isn't live yet so it's difficult to say anything - but this smells like a rip off already.
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Well, Wiggs has been wai for a year or so. No way to sell that one as a bug.
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People spend money to obtain and gear strong characters.
They nerf those characters.
They expect you to repeat.
It seems that is becoming the way they want to earn money \ not via content but by betraying their player base.
Things are getting more and more out of hand.
I don't think a Dev team could stoop any lower than that.
If affected players are not refunded any resources at least (which the patch notes don't mention), that's the best reason ever to stop playing or at least not spend a single dollar anymore.
They're fixing a bug that allowed Zader's lead to remove a LOT more TM than it should in phases 2-4 of Rancor.
They are nerfing other things like duo-combos of toons.
About Vader, that was at least stated as a bug.
His TMR won't be as effective as it now is on encounters after the first. This does not only affect the Rancor but also any other battle with more than one encounter including events and pve nodes.
This also affects the hAAT if you previously used to nuke the last zero point something percent of a phase to get a transition. So @leef: properly used, a zVader+Palpy team for p3 will now have less TMR than before.
It'll affect node battles and hAAT, but it's not all that relevant there. I guess there were some niche vader teams that relied on a vader lead for palpatine that removes tm AND start at the end of p2 in order to make use of the bug, but honestly, that is pretty niche: for most people, vader lead in p3 has become better due to the palpatine bugfix, and not worse.
It won't affect arena or GW, because those aren't multi-phase battles (the palpatine fix is a buff for these).
you're wrong.
Shocked enemies didnt get TMR at all from vader's leader. Well they originally did, but then they changed it. Now they're changing it again.
"Emperor Palpatine can now remove Turn Meter from his unique "Crackling Doom" under a Darth Vader Zeta lead"
this is the part i'm referring to in case any was wondering. This is most definately a favourable bug fix for zVader users. @danflorian1984
Consider how you have profiteered from this bug before crying over it being fixed finally. I welcome the fix if for nothing else than to curb the incessant infighting in guilds with regards to Pit Leader boards and being sorted by Player ID.
Only Palpy's unique. That'll only affect the adds a little.
Palpy's unique change won't make up for what Vader's lead did.
People abusing zVader on a good team felt the difference. A team dealing ~1kk on phase could hit for 1.7kk+ damage and I've seen some break the 2kk.
These numbers will go down to the normal ~1-1.2kk for decent zVader teams entering on the phase. Maybe a tad more. But not close to what was possible before.
But the patch will show that when it's live.
And yet, they still used their Zeta's to reap the rewards when they did find out. C'mon you can't be that naive. Drop the pretenses folks, this was coming for a long time and to complain about it now when you have soloed for moths is really scraping the barrel.
Precisely. They changed so much back and forth.
Most people upgrading their Vaders weren't aware of the bug but just knew he would solo the Rancor and be great in many more places. Just like Barris players got arena rewards for weeks.
And zVader doesn't mean you get any extra rewards... You can still solo-clear the raid and end rank 20.
Due to lack of a tie-breaker there wasn't much reaping rewards for zVader. Maybe for your player ID ..
being able to reduce TM on shocked enemies every turn palp gets is not adding just a little, it's adding a whole lot. It means that when you've shocked all the support droids, they'll never get a turn until palp is dead.
I'm not sure how the stacked TMR between phases was that beneficial for zvader users in p3. Mostly because you'd need to time entering the battle pretty precisely, wich in most guilds is almost impossible. And even if you did, i don't see how it would turn a 1kk score into a 2kk score. you're still gonna die from counters and how will you deal with the support droids?