How to beat QGJ Zeta

SnokeTrooper

I always run into QGJ lead teams, always stronger than my regular arena team, in node 12 in GW. Sometimes after 3-4 matches I can win, but most of the time Kenobi taunts nd I cant even get rid of his protection. Is there a best squad to face these type of teams?

Poxx

The single most potent toon vs. a zQGJ team is B2. They can't shock or daze him. His tm gain will keep them stripped of foresight, tenacity, offense up, taunt etc.

rawman

Easy win for me with Zaul, GK, DN, Zylo, Boba.

Gaidal_Cain

Vader's basic hits through Jedi foresight.

EP's shock shuts down Kenobi's taunt mechanic.

DN lead can also work due to lack of crits.

Biggest challenge is knocking out foresight and keeping your own toons from dying (which renews their foresight).

B2, Ventress, and Death Trooper, are all good dispellers (with B2 being the most universal).

A good squad to try is:

EP lead
Vader
RG
TFP
B2

TFP can ability block through foresight and he's fast enough to go before them especially if you have used him in earlier nodes.

My favorite squad is:

Zader
Tarkin
Death Trooper
Nihilus
RG/EP

RacerDejak

It's easy with chaze even though have 10k power difference lol

Sticare_Courts_0073

Step 1: git gud
Step 2:

TMK

B2.

Mzee

I just switched out from Vader (zL), Palpatine, Shoretrooper, Tie Fighter Pilot, B2. The only team I could beat in my arena shard was the Jedi it seemed, and this was fully geared ones with zetas. Never had any trouble with them.

Mol_Kelly

I have zaul, emperor palp, nihilis, Zylo.... and b2.... I love seeing a Jedi team on my way up to the top...

Woodroward

As stated by several, B2 is hands down the best member to add to your team to deal with ZGJ. They get foresight, one of your toons goes and gets dodged, which triggers B2's tm gain and he dispels it from the rest. He might even leave buff immunity on them to keep them from getting it back.

Vertigo

Woodroward wrote: »

As stated by several, B2 is hands down the best member to add to your team to deal with ZGJ. They get foresight, one of your toons goes and gets dodged, which triggers B2's tm gain and he dispels it from the rest. He might even leave buff immunity on them to keep them from getting it back.

He won't leave buff immunity on them if they dodge. However if you have someone go first with an AOE they're going to miss all 5 hits and clear all 5 foresights. Then you can use B2's AOE to apply buff immunity as he'll be almost guaranteed to gain 100% TM after 5 dodges from the enemy.

Woodroward

Vertigo wrote: »

Woodroward wrote: »

As stated by several, B2 is hands down the best member to add to your team to deal with ZGJ. They get foresight, one of your toons goes and gets dodged, which triggers B2's tm gain and he dispels it from the rest. He might even leave buff immunity on them to keep them from getting it back.

He won't leave buff immunity on them if they dodge. However if you have someone go first with an AOE they're going to miss all 5 hits and clear all 5 foresights. Then you can use B2's AOE to apply buff immunity as he'll be almost guaranteed to gain 100% TM after 5 dodges from the enemy.

True. It wouldn't land on anyone who had foresight when he used it (or naturally dodged either).

NicolBolas

For as long as zQGJ has been available, I have used B2 + Baze to counter it with 100% win rate. Everyone gains foresight at the beginning, then Yoda does his tenacity + foresight spread, which means Baze gains 75% TM in total. Baze always goes right after Yoda, does his sweep, misses on everything, and then triggers B2 to go next. Never lost a battle with that combo.

NahWillis

Don't forget Boba either. Jedi are squishy and Execute will turn those buffs against them. Execute QGJ with 1 team and then go back with another and the opposing team won't have his leader ability active anymore.

Jordy_Rain

Nihilus lead works... Jedi team doesn't typically hit hard. Long match should be favorable to annihilate

Poxx

Jordy_Rain wrote: »

Nihilus lead works... Jedi team doesn't typically hit hard. Long match should be favorable to annihilate

https://swgoh.gg/u/poxx70/

Running a top 10 jedi team on a launch shard, I whole-heartedly disagree. Jedi hit EXTREMELY hard if built properly. Offense boost from speed, offense boost from R2, even R2 gains 40% offense on my team. Now, add to that every jedi on my team has an assist call. QGJ and Aayla boost their assists' damage even further.

I can easily drop 50k damage in 1 button push multiple times in an encounter.

Any

Jordy_Rain wrote: »

Nihilus lead works... Jedi team doesn't typically hit hard. Long match should be favorable to annihilate

Without R2 , yes they not hit hard.

Nihilus lead very weak to Jedi(Need zYoda)+R2, win of offense on auto.

Any

Poxx wrote: »

Jordy_Rain wrote: »

Nihilus lead works... Jedi team doesn't typically hit hard. Long match should be favorable to annihilate

https://swgoh.gg/u/poxx70/

Running a top 10 jedi team on a launch shard, I whole-heartedly disagree. Jedi hit EXTREMELY hard if built properly. Offense boost from speed, offense boost from R2, even R2 gains 40% offense on my team. Now, add to that every jedi on my team has an assist call. QGJ and Aayla boost their assists' damage even further.

I can easily drop 50k damage in 1 button push multiple times in an encounter.

Do you ever try zQGJ,zYoda,GK,JKA,R2

Yoda is game changer as give foresight 3-4 times per fight.

JKA with R2 can do 28k AOE crit damage(if case of squad lower than 50% health.

danflorian1984

I don't have any problems against them using a Zaul EP Vader DN B2 team, like many said before B2 is the key. Well Maul's double damage against jedi also helps.

RushForGoals

I have yet to zeta any characters. But I have beaten zQ team a couple of times.

First team I sent in: Wiggs, Lando, EP, RG. Might replace Lando for anything if that set up didn't work right. I am reluctant to call this a suicide squad, although they would lost eventually. However they had a primary mission: to get rid of QGJ. If you achieve this, the Jedi are no longer a zeta team for next encounter.

2nd team: Anything that were good enough to kill the remaining jedi.

Only 1 time I failed to do this due to slightly mismanaged CD and health for battle in node 11.

SidiousIsPikachu

its annoying team obviously, because of the mass foresight.
however, running B2 or TFP (that will come SECOND) kinda win it. vader and savage are good aswell - cant be evaded attacks, and also vader can inflict ability block on jedis even when evades.
i use full sith team and i win the zQGJ teams. (Zaul, Zavage, Palp, Sidious, SA)
so even with the foresight to all and the fact that sith are mostly AoE's damagers, the sith are still counter for jedis - Maul double-DMG, Vader's skills, Palp unique (and shock, jedis gain a lot from buffs), sidious (under maul his evasion is more effective than foresight lol), Dooku's debuff chances, SA and SiT ignore protection and can savage finish a guy with 50% HP, 100% protection and a foresight on him.
just use the right team, Empire and Sith can do the work, b2 or TFP make it easier...
because its GW, you can always burn away some protection and skills with suicide squad and then finish with your strong team, and you can easily make TFP come second after AoE.

SidiousIsPikachu

Poxx wrote: »

Jordy_Rain wrote: »

Nihilus lead works... Jedi team doesn't typically hit hard. Long match should be favorable to annihilate

https://swgoh.gg/u/poxx70/

Running a top 10 jedi team on a launch shard, I whole-heartedly disagree. Jedi hit EXTREMELY hard if built properly. Offense boost from speed, offense boost from R2, even R2 gains 40% offense on my team. Now, add to that every jedi on my team has an assist call. QGJ and Aayla boost their assists' damage even further.

I can easily drop 50k damage in 1 button push multiple times in an encounter.

well this is a freaking great team. nice man

Gamezealot

SnokeTrooper wrote: »

I always run into QGJ lead teams, always stronger than my regular arena team, in node 12 in GW. Sometimes after 3-4 matches I can win, but most of the time Kenobi taunts nd I cant even get rid of his protection. Is there a best squad to face these type of teams?

I had this team last night in node 12.

I used Rex, B2, Zylo, Boba and R2.

B2 is the key, like the first guy said

Revi

Usually smash zQGJ with Zaul Vader EP DN and TFP, heard B2 is also good but don't know what type of team you would stick him in.

danflorian1984

Revi wrote: »

Usually smash zQGJ with Zaul Vader EP DN and TFP, heard B2 is also good but don't know what type of team you would stick him in.

I use the same team as you, just with B2 instead of TFP

Bhaalor

Vertigo wrote: »

Woodroward wrote: »

As stated by several, B2 is hands down the best member to add to your team to deal with ZGJ. They get foresight, one of your toons goes and gets dodged, which triggers B2's tm gain and he dispels it from the rest. He might even leave buff immunity on them to keep them from getting it back.

He won't leave buff immunity on them if they dodge. However if you have someone go first with an AOE they're going to miss all 5 hits and clear all 5 foresights. Then you can use B2's AOE to apply buff immunity as he'll be almost guaranteed to gain 100% TM after 5 dodges from the enemy.

^^^

This. This is exactly what I do. Either Sid, or TFP or someone, then they alll get missed due to foresight, B2 gets ANGRY and unloads, no more tenacity, no more anything, and all have buff block, its a think of beauty.

SnokeTrooper

Wow thanks guys it sucks that I don't have B2 unlocked but I have Emperor, TFP and Vader at 7 stars so I'll give them a go. Thanks again.