hAN sOLO movie will likely not be good (no, this isnt about recasting hAN cause idc about that)
June 21, 2017 2:24AM
edited June 2017
Phil lord and christopher miller have dropped out of directing the next star wars anthology movie due to "creative differences" with lucasfilm. Its never a good sign when people drop out of doing a film, but normally thats in pre-production. When they drop out in the middle of filming, thats a whole lot worse.
Its pretty common for a studio to clash with directors. Directors (should) do their best to tell a story the way they think it should be told, however studios have a checklist of requirements that they want the movie to have so it makes the most money. These requirements often restrict or distort the director's vision for the film. This happened most recently to josh trank and david ayer in fantastic four and suicide squad respectfully.
I was optimistic about this movie. I don't have a problem with recasting han solo, lawrence kasden is in charge of the script, and i thought CM and PL were good picks for directing. However, in light of this new information, my optimism is waning.
Im curious to hear what others think.
Its pretty common for a studio to clash with directors. Directors (should) do their best to tell a story the way they think it should be told, however studios have a checklist of requirements that they want the movie to have so it makes the most money. These requirements often restrict or distort the director's vision for the film. This happened most recently to josh trank and david ayer in fantastic four and suicide squad respectfully.
I was optimistic about this movie. I don't have a problem with recasting han solo, lawrence kasden is in charge of the script, and i thought CM and PL were good picks for directing. However, in light of this new information, my optimism is waning.
Im curious to hear what others think.
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Fair enough, but especially after rogue one, im not expecting anything as good as TFA
Plus a few more. These are great films. I think we are in good hands here.
Kasdan is awesome, so I hope the movie can be salvaged into something good or should be scrapped - we do not want another Fantrastic 4 or Suicide Squad catastrophe.
Is Kasdan also doing the screenplay for The Last Jedi? does anyone know??
Rian johnson is the writer for TLJ
I agree that howard is a great pick for director, but unless they reshoot most of what they have, theres only so much one can do in post to keep the tone consistent.
Yeah, because it will have good writing and likable characters
A young(er) Baze and Chirrut? Awesome!
A pre-TPM Kenobi please!
But yeah, I agree with OP. Seems like the more I hear about it, the worse it sounds. Hope I'm wrong though.
What a bizarre comment. It's almost as if you haven't seen any Star Wars movies except for Rogue One. Half the films have been poorly directed so automatically Rogue One is in the top four SW movies. ANH is not a great movie: poorly directed, crappy acting. If it wasn't for performances by Cushing, Guiness, and Jones, the movie would have been a complete disaster. The prequels are mostly bad (though ROTS has some good points). ROTJ is well-directed but suffers from Ewok silliness (yes, that's a real thing). TFA is well directed and acted but it is simply a remake of ANH. So Rogue One is the second best Star Wars movie only behind Empire. Any other argument is based almost solely on nostalgia.
Who says nostalgia is bad.
Idk where you read i thought it would be a good movie overall, or that rogue one is any worse than the prequels. My point was that Han Solo will focus more on characters and fun, witty dialogue (like TFA) than Rogue One did.
Also, since you brought it up, i think the good in ANH, TFA, and ROTJ outweigh the bad.
A New Hope: yes, its schlocky, simplistic, and base, but thats why i like it. Unlike the prequels or newer movies it doesn't have the weight of obligation on it and it doesn't try to be more than it is (cheezy B-movie fun). It wasn't meant to fit into some larger universe, the universe was built around the story and the "star wars universe" only came about because of the fans.
Return of the Jedi: Definitely the weakest of the OT. This film marks the point where george lucas realizes how much money he can squeeze out of this franchise so he crams in unnecessary characters, creatures, and ships by sacrificing a cohesive story, witty dialogue, and likable characters (luke is an emotionless monk we cant relate to, leia is objectified, han has no purpose, etc). However this movie is saved by the emperor and the scene in his throne room (hands down best star wars scene).
The Force Awakens: Critiquing this movie is a bit difficult for me. There is a whole lot thats wrong with it, but a whole lot thats great. I think the characters are some of the strongest of the saga (i maintain my position that kylo ren is a better written character than vader), its humerous when it can be, and (usually) dramatic when it needs to be. And most of all, its FUN. Yes, its a soft reboot of the franchise but unlike rogue one, the connections, references, and rehashed tropes aren't what makes the movie good. People like me like TFA not because of what it rehashes, but what it adds, and thats what is important to me.
Can you even IMAGINE what it's like?
Btw: amigo, could you please change the title of this thread so that the name of our favorite Nerf Herder at least has correct CapiTaLizAtiOn?
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They were using improvised takes - going off the path from Kasdan's amazing script writing and also trying to make the movie "funny" - quirky moments...MOMENTS can be funny, but when a movie like this goes out of its way to be "funny" it rarely is.
If this is all true, then I am glad the directors got the axe - but I am apprehensive as to what this means about the movie - as it is apparently nearly finished in its filming process. Hopefully it can be salvaged and turned into an enjoyable addition to the star wars franchise upon its release.