So I have a Zeta on Thrawns unique and it seems to have an issue dealing with toons who also have counter attack. So if Biggs attacks Thrawn he will counter attack 100% of the time. Problem is Biggs hits you right back. A counter on a counter. It is horrible. I've been hit with Biggs assist special, Thrawn counters and gets smoked by Biggs again. It destroyed my Thrawn. Ive seen it happen multiple times now. Any one else experience this?
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I thought a counter attack didn't function as a turn. Obviously it does, but that seems out of line. So ideally Biggs will wreck any Empire toon that has a counter. Ouch
That's why you fracture Biggs
It's not functioning as a turn, but it is functioning as "Damage." Biggs doesn't gain 100% TM when an Empire character uses a turn to hit them, Biggs gains 100% TM when he takes damage from Empire characters. But yes Biggs will wreck Empire characters that counter attack. Unless he dodges or is stunned or shocked or dazed.
It's not a counter though. He gains 100% turn meter
Heck on offense you could purposely attack Thrawn with Biggs every time and start a damage loop until one toon dies.
Pretty sure you said Thrawn already did hit him with the counter attack...? Let's get this straight:
On Offense, a Biggs could essentially just continue to hit a Zeta'd Thrawn until Thrawn dies because he'll continue to get 100% TM. If you have the Omega on Thrawn's Basic though you might be able to stun Biggs so he won't always be able to use the turn that he gets.
It didn't kill him. He was full health and protection. He was knocking on deaths door, but should have countered. It was a Wedge lead, Biggs, R2, Fulcrum Ashoka and GK. None of those guys dish out daze or anything that would interfere with counters. Biggs wasn't stealthed.
Again it has to do with THRAWN COUNTER not Biggs he doesn't have a counter he just gets 100% tm and goes again
So you're saying that Biggs used his assist attack on Thrawn, then Thrawn counter attacked Biggs. Biggs gained 100% TM, hit Thrawn AGAIN and then Thrawn didn't counter attack the second attack?
Yes. He didn't counter the second attack from Biggs. Now I'll try again a few different ways, but it seems like Biggs is the Thrawn killer if that's the case. You could theoretically tunnel damage down on Thrawn until he's dead or Biggs is stunned. Pretty darn close to the dreaded damage loop.
Except go the fact that if it's a omegad thrawn the first attack should inflict AB and the second would stun him
Well Thrawn SHOULD have Counter attacked the second attack from Biggs if that's the case. If you can get it to happen again I'd report it as a bug.
Or if you have a taunting tank then this never happens.
First attack turns INTO AB and then if hit will be stunned
Hey! Look at that, someone figured it out. If Thrawn got TM and had a turn he would have lost Fracture. Since he only counters when Fracture is active that seems the most likely scenario.
https://swgoh.gg/u/arkham/, A Team
Or else Biggs just dodged the counter because he has evasion up and at 4x speed it wasn't seen.
That couldn't be the case in this loop.
OP -- did Biggs do the triple attack on the first attack (the one that Thrawn countered) or the second attack (the one that Thrawn did not counter)? If it's the latter, then it's possible that the Biggs portion of the attack missed, and only the primary attack can be countered.