Why are my characters always being crushed?

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JurassicKing
55 posts Member
edited July 2017
I'm trying to advance in the AI battles so I can gain access to more battles and thus character shards, but my team is often slaughtered by the AI. And the confusing part? I send in my highest leveled characters, which range from the low 50's in level to 60 for my strongest unit, up against level 39 AI. My team is heavily damaged during the AI's first turn and my attacks barely do anything despite the level difference.

What might I be doing wrong?

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  • AlexTheG
    215 posts Member
    You'd need to provide some details about your squad and gear level. Hard to answer otherwise!
  • mods... almost always the answer. As soon as I put 5pip, level 15 mods that were generally improving the characters strengths - big improvement.
    https://swgoh.gg/u/speedokillz/

    December 2016 Arena Shard
  • Ambassador
    1653 posts Member
    Gear and mods are more important than levels and stars. Be sure also to send squads that work well together.
    If you can't beat a higher node, it's probably better to farm lower nodes to increase the gear levels of your characters.
  • AlexTheG wrote: »
    You'd need to provide some details about your squad and gear level. Hard to answer otherwise!

    I didn't think the makeup of the squad was important. After all, it's the AI dishing out massive damage and hardly getting a cut from my units that's the problem. I doubt squad comp will do anything to change that.
  • mods... almost always the answer. As soon as I put 5pip, level 15 mods that were generally improving the characters strengths - big improvement.

    I've tried doing mod battles and my units are absolutely butchered. They hardly last more than one turn.
  • Hskull55
    2263 posts Member
    The team composition is important, if your characters have got synergies, they will work better
    My collection https://swgoh.gg/u/Hskull55/
    Sorry for my English :]
  • Hskull55 wrote: »
    The team composition is important, if your characters have got synergies, they will work better

    I doubt synergies will keep the AI from being able to take out over half of a unit's health that is at least ten levels higher.

    And my team changes depending on what I feel like using.
  • Hskull55
    2263 posts Member
    Hskull55 wrote: »
    The team composition is important, if your characters have got synergies, they will work better

    I doubt synergies will keep the AI from being able to take out over half of a unit's health that is at least ten levels higher.

    And my team changes depending on what I feel like using.

    Some characters give extra health to his allies, for example, Sith and Empire unde EP lead
    My collection https://swgoh.gg/u/Hskull55/
    Sorry for my English :]
  • Hskull55 wrote: »
    Hskull55 wrote: »
    The team composition is important, if your characters have got synergies, they will work better

    I doubt synergies will keep the AI from being able to take out over half of a unit's health that is at least ten levels higher.

    And my team changes depending on what I feel like using.

    Some characters give extra health to his allies, for example, Sith and Empire unde EP lead

    I don't have Palpatine. That would require Rebel units strong enough to do the Demise event :\ I have all of Phoenix Squadroon, K-2, Ahsoka Tano (Fulcrum), Biggs, Bodhi, Pao and Leia. Out of all of them, only Sabine and K-2 have a 3+ star rating, so I'm ineligible for the event when it rolls around.
  • I suppose I could write out everyone I have and we can go from there?
  • Hskull55
    2263 posts Member
    Hskull55 wrote: »
    Hskull55 wrote: »
    The team composition is important, if your characters have got synergies, they will work better

    I doubt synergies will keep the AI from being able to take out over half of a unit's health that is at least ten levels higher.

    And my team changes depending on what I feel like using.

    Some characters give extra health to his allies, for example, Sith and Empire unde EP lead

    I don't have Palpatine. That would require Rebel units strong enough to do the Demise event :\ I have all of Phoenix Squadroon, K-2, Ahsoka Tano (Fulcrum), Biggs, Bodhi, Pao and Leia. Out of all of them, only Sabine and K-2 have a 3+ star rating, so I'm ineligible for the event when it rolls around.

    You have some good rebels, bit not a good leader for them, maybe Ackbar helps you, he's easy to farm and a decent leader.

    Do you have good allies??? (For example level 85 gear 10/11 characters) If not, I can help you, if you have good allies, PvE battles became a lot easier
    My collection https://swgoh.gg/u/Hskull55/
    Sorry for my English :]
  • Hskull55 wrote: »
    Hskull55 wrote: »
    Hskull55 wrote: »
    The team composition is important, if your characters have got synergies, they will work better

    I doubt synergies will keep the AI from being able to take out over half of a unit's health that is at least ten levels higher.

    And my team changes depending on what I feel like using.

    Some characters give extra health to his allies, for example, Sith and Empire unde EP lead

    I don't have Palpatine. That would require Rebel units strong enough to do the Demise event :\ I have all of Phoenix Squadroon, K-2, Ahsoka Tano (Fulcrum), Biggs, Bodhi, Pao and Leia. Out of all of them, only Sabine and K-2 have a 3+ star rating, so I'm ineligible for the event when it rolls around.

    You have some good rebels, bit not a good leader for them, maybe Ackbar helps you, he's easy to farm and a decent leader.

    Do you have good allies??? (For example level 85 gear 10/11 characters) If not, I can help you, if you have good allies, PvE battles became a lot easier

    How do I get Ackbar? His shards aren't in any battles I can do thus far.

    The highest level ally I have is a level 70 something Tarkin. Other than that I'll sometimes see Phasma, Vader, Old Daka and other allies with weak or no bonuses.
  • Hskull55
    2263 posts Member
    Hskull55 wrote: »
    Hskull55 wrote: »
    Hskull55 wrote: »
    The team composition is important, if your characters have got synergies, they will work better

    I doubt synergies will keep the AI from being able to take out over half of a unit's health that is at least ten levels higher.

    And my team changes depending on what I feel like using.

    Some characters give extra health to his allies, for example, Sith and Empire unde EP lead

    I don't have Palpatine. That would require Rebel units strong enough to do the Demise event :\ I have all of Phoenix Squadroon, K-2, Ahsoka Tano (Fulcrum), Biggs, Bodhi, Pao and Leia. Out of all of them, only Sabine and K-2 have a 3+ star rating, so I'm ineligible for the event when it rolls around.

    You have some good rebels, bit not a good leader for them, maybe Ackbar helps you, he's easy to farm and a decent leader.

    Do you have good allies??? (For example level 85 gear 10/11 characters) If not, I can help you, if you have good allies, PvE battles became a lot easier

    How do I get Ackbar? His shards aren't in any battles I can do thus far.

    The highest level ally I have is a level 70 something Tarkin. Other than that I'll sometimes see Phasma, Vader, Old Daka and other allies with weak or no bonuses.

    1. Ackbar shards can be purchased in the Arena shop
    2. Wait a moment and I will give you my ally code. (Tell me what character do you want)
    My collection https://swgoh.gg/u/Hskull55/
    Sorry for my English :]
  • Hskull55
    2263 posts Member
    351-338-934
    My collection https://swgoh.gg/u/Hskull55/
    Sorry for my English :]
  • JurassicKing
    55 posts Member
    edited July 2017
    Hskull55 wrote: »
    Hskull55 wrote: »
    Hskull55 wrote: »
    Hskull55 wrote: »
    The team composition is important, if your characters have got synergies, they will work better

    I doubt synergies will keep the AI from being able to take out over half of a unit's health that is at least ten levels higher.

    And my team changes depending on what I feel like using.

    Some characters give extra health to his allies, for example, Sith and Empire unde EP lead

    I don't have Palpatine. That would require Rebel units strong enough to do the Demise event :\ I have all of Phoenix Squadroon, K-2, Ahsoka Tano (Fulcrum), Biggs, Bodhi, Pao and Leia. Out of all of them, only Sabine and K-2 have a 3+ star rating, so I'm ineligible for the event when it rolls around.

    You have some good rebels, bit not a good leader for them, maybe Ackbar helps you, he's easy to farm and a decent leader.

    Do you have good allies??? (For example level 85 gear 10/11 characters) If not, I can help you, if you have good allies, PvE battles became a lot easier

    How do I get Ackbar? His shards aren't in any battles I can do thus far.

    The highest level ally I have is a level 70 something Tarkin. Other than that I'll sometimes see Phasma, Vader, Old Daka and other allies with weak or no bonuses.

    1. Ackbar shards can be purchased in the Arena shop
    2. Wait a moment and I will give you my ally code. (Tell me what character do you want)

    I really don't care. SOmeone who can hit the enemy fast and deadly I suppose? They can't fight you if they're dead after all.
  • Ambassador
    1653 posts Member
    I suppose I could write out everyone I have and we can go from there?
    You should register on https://swgoh.gg , and provide a link to your roster, it's easier than writing everything. :wink:
  • Okay a few more questions I would like to put in one post so you can see them all.
  • Ambassador wrote: »
    I suppose I could write out everyone I have and we can go from there?
    You should register on https://swgoh.gg , and provide a link to your roster, it's easier than writing everything. :wink:
    Ambassador wrote: »
    I suppose I could write out everyone I have and we can go from there?
    You should register on https://swgoh.gg , and provide a link to your roster, it's easier than writing everything. :wink:

    How do I do that?

    I'd say I'm new to this game but I've been playing for a while now. But there's still a lot I do not understand ((the tutorials suck if you aks me))
  • mods... almost always the answer. As soon as I put 5pip, level 15 mods that were generally improving the characters strengths - big improvement.

    I've tried doing mod battles and my units are absolutely butchered. They hardly last more than one turn.

    If you're unable to complete basic Health Mod Battles and Challenges, then I suggest that you not worry about "... getting crushed" and continue developing a light side team and a dark side team until you can complete Health mod challenges.

    This will mean you probably need to be focusing on Scoundrels, as if you really want to crush back, you'll need to do well in the Credit Heists. Seriously... Get working on 5 Scoundrels.
    https://swgoh.gg/u/speedokillz/

    December 2016 Arena Shard
  • Hskull55
    2263 posts Member
    Ambassador wrote: »
    I suppose I could write out everyone I have and we can go from there?
    You should register on https://swgoh.gg , and provide a link to your roster, it's easier than writing everything. :wink:
    Ambassador wrote: »
    I suppose I could write out everyone I have and we can go from there?
    You should register on https://swgoh.gg , and provide a link to your roster, it's easier than writing everything. :wink:

    How do I do that?

    I'd say I'm new to this game but I've been playing for a while now. But there's still a lot I do not understand ((the tutorials suck if you aks me))

    1. Go to https://swgoh.gg
    2. Tap on log in
    3. Tap on sign up
    4. Complete all the things
    My collection https://swgoh.gg/u/Hskull55/
    Sorry for my English :]
  • Hskull55
    2263 posts Member
    I added you... you have my:
    Light side: Lando, decent rebel leader, LOTS of damage
    Dark side: Thrawn, my fastest character, good damage, awesome character
    Mod battles: Shoretrooper, he taunts at the start of the battle, so the enemy won't attack your characters
    Cantina: Shore too
    My collection https://swgoh.gg/u/Hskull55/
    Sorry for my English :]
  • I know I have lots of underleveled units. I need to work on leveling them up.
  • Hskull55 wrote: »
    I added you... you have my:
    Light side: Lando, decent rebel leader, LOTS of damage
    Dark side: Thrawn, my fastest character, good damage, awesome character
    Mod battles: Shoretrooper, he taunts at the start of the battle, so the enemy won't attack your characters
    Cantina: Shore too

    Thank you
  • Lando and ST Han... get 'em
    https://swgoh.gg/u/speedokillz/

    December 2016 Arena Shard
  • Hskull55
    2263 posts Member
    Hskull55 wrote: »
    I added you... you have my:
    Light side: Lando, decent rebel leader, LOTS of damage
    Dark side: Thrawn, my fastest character, good damage, awesome character
    Mod battles: Shoretrooper, he taunts at the start of the battle, so the enemy won't attack your characters
    Cantina: Shore too

    Thank you

    If you want a specific character, send me a private message in this forum :)
    My collection https://swgoh.gg/u/Hskull55/
    Sorry for my English :]
  • JurassicKing
    55 posts Member
    edited July 2017
    Lando and ST Han... get 'em

    Is there a fast way to do so? They require loads of shards and with Han I can only get him through the stores...getting his shards via squad arena will take eternity as I only get 400 arena tokens per day. 200 from the daily challenges and 200 from my rank in the arena.

    Also may I aks why them specifically? I'm not objecting to your statement, just wondering why those two specifically, you know?
  • Ambassador
    1653 posts Member
    edited July 2017
    Thanks, exactly what I thought. You've been focusing on levelling your characters, but what really matters is pushing the gear levels higher. You should focus on that for a while : pick a list of characters, and look for their gear.
    In Cantina, I'd suggest you farm and develop Lando Calrissian, he's a Scoundrel that will help you big time. When unlocked, focus on Wedge for a time.
    On Arena shop, focus on Stormtrooper Han ; he's a Scoundrel too, and a good character throughout the game.
    Start gearing up those characters that you already have at a high level, but some of the characters you've left out are better, so longer term you'll have to work on them (Biggs, Leia, Vader, Fives, Tarkin, TFP, mostly).

    EDIT : and avoid posting several times in row. You may quote several posts in one answer, or edit an answer if you have something else to add. ;-)
  • Hskull55
    2263 posts Member
    Lando and ST Han... get 'em

    Is there a fast way to do so? They require loads of shards and with Han I can only get him through the stores...getting his shards via squad arena will take eternity as I only get 400 per day. 200 from the daily challenges and 200 from my rank in the arena.

    Also may I aks why them specifically? I'm not objecting to your statement, just wondering why those two specifically, you know?

    In 10 days you will unlock Han then, not that bad
    My collection https://swgoh.gg/u/Hskull55/
    Sorry for my English :]
  • Ambassador wrote: »
    Thanks, exactly what I thought. You've been focusing on levelling your characters, but what really matters is pushing the gear levels higher. You should focus on that for a while : pick a list of characters, and look for their gear.
    In Cantina, I'd suggest you farm and develop Lando Calrissian, he's a Scoundrel that will help you big time. When unlocked, focus on Wedge for a time.
    On Arena shop, focus on Stormtrooper Han ; he's a Scoundrel too, and a good character throughout the game.
    Start gearing up those characters that you already have at a high level, but some of the characters you've left out are better, so longer term you'll have to work on them (Biggs, Leia, Vader, Fives, Tarkin, TFP, mostly).

    Why Lando and Stormtrooper Han, specifically?

    I try to gear them up but it's frustrating because I can only find gear from a few specific battles, I do those battles and usually I receive no gear, the wrong gear or not enough gear to craft what I need for the character, if that makes sense. And it eats up all my energy.
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