Potency in Raids

I have a somewhat complex question which should have a simple answer.

If I assume a raid boss(Lvl 90) is affected by tendacity down. If my toon has 100% potency I will still be resisted 15%, same if it had 80%. My question is how low can my potency be and still only be resisted 15% of the time? I am sure someone has worked this out...

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  • They will occasionally resist regardless. Never be able to put a % on rng. Tenacity down is your ally
  • Your speaking of the rancor I assume? You want to stack potency on your tMr toons but for an idea, my teebo is only 70% and along with TFP, hits often. My Rex is potency deficient since I use him in arena and sticks tmr more than tee both. It is weird
  • Lowest your potency can go at a guess would be say, 16% so your a hair higher then base resist, but still enough to ensure the 15% resist. It's also possible that zero potency will also give a similar chance as long as ten down is applied, but I have never experimented with low potency setups .
  • Poxx
    2288 posts Member
    Easiest method is 2 use a toon that applies tenacity down like TFP or CLS, then potency is immaterial
  • ReyCharles
    279 posts Member
    edited August 2017
    I checked and my Rex and OG Han both have 20 something potency and do just fine so yeah tenacity down is really the key
  • Huatimus
    3669 posts Member
    The boss has Tenacity reduced to 15% if it has the Tenacity Down debuff. You could have 0% Potency and it wouldn't make a difference.
  • Waqui
    8802 posts Member
    Huatimus wrote: »
    The boss has Tenacity reduced to 15% if it has the Tenacity Down debuff. You could have 0% Potency and it wouldn't make a difference.

    Really? I thought TD just reduced the tenacity by 30. Was mistaken then.

  • Huatimus
    3669 posts Member
    TD reduces Tenacity by 999900%. And is unresistable.
  • Vice_torn
    599 posts Member
    edited August 2017
    Ahh...most responders do not fully understand the question I am asking...

    If my tm guy only has 0% potency, even with tenacity down it will be resisted half the time because of the level split.

    Resist chance = tenacity-potency+levelsplit*10. ...... I think, with a minimum resist chance of 15%... And a max of 85%.

    If tenacity down reduces tendacity to 15 then my magic number is 50%potency(more then that is unnessary). If tenacity is reduced to 0, then I only need 35% to only be resisted 15% of the time. I think the case is the later.
  • Huatimus
    3669 posts Member
    No, you do not understand the mechanics.
    Resist chance = (Tenacity including level differences) - Potency to a minimum of 15%
    When Boss has TD and you have 0 Potency,
    Resist chance = 15% - 0 = 15%
    You need 0 Potency.

    Repeat after me, you need 0 Potency when Boss has Tenacity Down debuff.
  • Ztyle
    1970 posts Member
    Vice_torn wrote: »
    Ahh...most responders do not fully understand the question I am asking...

    If my tm guy only has 0% potency, even with tenacity down it will be resisted half the time because of the level split.

    Resist chance = tenacity-potency+levelsplit*10. ...... I think, with a minimum resist chance of 15%... And a max of 85%.

    If tenacity down reduces tendacity to 15 then my magic number is 50%potency(more then that is unnessary). If tenacity is reduced to 0, then I only need 35% to only be resisted 15% of the time. I think the case is the later.

    It's quite simple, with tenacity down there's 15% tenacity left on the boss, 15% tenacity = 15% chance to resist, it doesn't matter if you have 0% or 1,000,000% potency
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  • Vice_torn
    599 posts Member
    edited August 2017
    @Ztyle @Huatimus, thank you for your response, But you both are ignoring difference in level, which matters! Even with tenacity down, against a target 5 levels above you need a certain amount of potency to minimize the chance of resisting. The point of my question was to ask exactly how much potency was needed.
  • crzydroid
    7252 posts Moderator
    Vice_torn wrote: »
    @Ztyle @Huatimus, thank you for your response, But you both are ignoring difference in level, which matters! Even with tenacity down, against a target 5 levels above you need a certain amount of potency to minimize the chance of resisting. The point of my question was to ask exactly how much potency was needed.

    Tenacity Down is -999900% tenacity. No matter the level delta, the end result will still be negative. So even with 0% potency, you will run into the base 15% chance to resist.
  • Ztyle
    1970 posts Member
    Vice_torn wrote: »
    @Ztyle @Huatimus, thank you for your response, But you both are ignoring difference in level, which matters! Even with tenacity down, against a target 5 levels above you need a certain amount of potency to minimize the chance of resisting. The point of my question was to ask exactly how much potency was needed.
    It doesn't matter if you are level 1 or 85 and it doesn't matter if the boss is level 2 or 6000
    With tenacity down the boss only has a 15% chance to resist, no matter what
    It's that simple, forget about everything else as it has ZERO impact on the chance to imply a debuff on a boss with tenacity down
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