Amount of money spent determines level of help?

Caiaphas
187 posts Member
edited September 2017
I opened a ticket with EA Help, and after some discussions with them, and an escalation to a supervisor, I got a response that included:
"However, seeing your spend level in the game, the maximum compensation we cam offer is <not shown>"
After seeing my spend level?
Surely that is not right! What does my spend level have to do with support issues?!?
EDIT: is this a complaint that I can escalate, and if so, how?

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    What were you trying to get fixed? What are they compensating You for?
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    That's not the point, is it? That they would check my level of spend before they offered to help is the issue, isn't it?
    I didn't see anywhere in game or anywhere else that the more you spend, the better the level of service you would get. We are led to believe that the benefits from spending money are realised in-game with the stuff that you get for your money.
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    Caiaphas wrote: »
    That's not the point, is it? That they would check my level of spend before they offered to help is the issue, isn't it?
    I didn't see anywhere in game or anywhere else that the more you spend, the better the level of service you would get. We are led to believe that the benefits from spending money are realised in-game with the stuff that you get for your money.
    Lol it's fairly important, yes.

    Example: you put in a ticket for the $40 you accidentally spent on crystals and allege that you accidentally bought the $60 one (lying). They respond and say "based off your level of spending, we can only compensate you $40."

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    LOL... fair enough. In that case, yes, the level of spending DOES matter, if I am asking for a refund for an amount that I have spent, or something directly related to spending money in the game.

    That is not the situation, though. The ticket had nothing to do with purchases.
    (let's pretend that you are a whale for a moment)
    If something went terribly wrong with the game for both of us, and both you and I both started a support ticket, and EA/CG agreed that something went terribly wrong and offered to compensate us for the trouble caused by the issue, they would offer more to you, a spender, than to me, even though the issue affected us in exactly the same way.

    To be clear, I know of someone who had the EXACT same issue that I had. He started a ticket, and was compensated xxx crystals. Upon learning this, I decided to open a ticket for the same issue. I was offered much less. I protested. I had it escalated. They refused to compensate me the same as the other player. The issue was exactly the same, I can assure you.
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    Well I have spent hundreds of dollars let me assure you the service still sucks. I am going through something right now that I can not get an answer for
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    Screenshot this. Would love to see.
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    Caiaphas wrote: »
    LOL... fair enough. In that case, yes, the level of spending DOES matter, if I am asking for a refund for an amount that I have spent, or something directly related to spending money in the game.

    That is not the situation, though. The ticket had nothing to do with purchases.
    (let's pretend that you are a whale for a moment)
    If something went terribly wrong with the game for both of us, and both you and I both started a support ticket, and EA/CG agreed that something went terribly wrong and offered to compensate us for the trouble caused by the issue, they would offer more to you, a spender, than to me, even though the issue affected us in exactly the same way.

    To be clear, I know of someone who had the EXACT same issue that I had. He started a ticket, and was compensated xxx crystals. Upon learning this, I decided to open a ticket for the same issue. I was offered much less. I protested. I had it escalated. They refused to compensate me the same as the other player. The issue was exactly the same, I can assure you.

    Lol. Ask Google/Apple next time instead.
    Or the more time consuming option is to read the Terms and Conditions completely and when you did't find any paragraph about the possible occurance of this practice, start a ticket about the Support inconsistency.

    However, I believe ther IS some misty reference to this kind of practice...
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    "That is not the situation, though. The ticket had nothing to do with purchases."

    "The issue was exactly the same, I can assure you."

    Prove it. If you're right, the court of public opinion will vindicate you. But you won't. Because you're wrong and you're trying to generate sympathy.
  • Caiaphas
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    edited September 2017
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    Thanks, 11411181, but I don't need you or anyone to vindicate me. I'm not wrong, and I'm not trying to generate sympathy. I don't want anything from whoever you are, and I don't know why you automatically assume that I am wrong and that I am trying to generate sympathy.
    What I want is something from someone at EA/CG ... I just read through the Terms. There is no mention of differential treatment based on spend level.
    I did get one good response though ... I could open another ticket about the fact that this differential treatment doesn't seem justified. But that is going back to the same people asking for a different outcome.
    Is there a way to escalate this?

    edit: trying to get screenshot to work
    Screenshot of email from EA help:
    https://imgur.com/lzb0tVt
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    Thanks, 11411181, but I don't need you or anyone else to vindicate me. I am not wrong. I am not trying to generate sympathy. I have the case numbers for both cases for reference. I am not looking for your help - I am looking for help from EA/CG, after the ticket/support system has run its course.

    Link to (edited) screenshot of email from the EA Help supervisor: https://imgur.com/lzb0tVt

    EA/CG: It would seem odd to open a ticket with EA Help, about the inconsistency in service at EA Help. Is there another option or way to escalate?
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    Caiaphas wrote: »
    I opened a ticket with EA Help

    EA =/= CG
    EA > CG

    It may it be CG's fault, it may be the policies of EA itself. Just sayin.
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    11411181 wrote: »
    "That is not the situation, though. The ticket had nothing to do with purchases."

    "The issue was exactly the same, I can assure you."

    Prove it. If you're right, the court of public opinion will vindicate you. But you won't. Because you're wrong and you're trying to generate sympathy.
    He's right, you are being oddly vague and guarded.

    Regardless, in response to your scenario... that is probably the case, and why shouldn't it be? Video games exist to make money, and this one makes money because of paying players. The fact that you play this game ad-free, without subscription fees or charges, and with relative low data sharing is a luxury bestowed upon you by those of us who put money into this game.

    Here's some real world examples:

    You visit McDonald's every other day, spending $200 a month on food. Someone else visits once a year, spending $10 each time. The Federal Government declares that McDonald's inaccurately advertised their food as being much healthier than it really was. Class action lawsuits start popping up, and you and the one time per year person are represented by the same firm. Do you expect both people to be compensated the same amount?

    The bank you use is accused of charging client's excessive account maintenance fees. You hold 7 different accounts with the bank that were each charged $20 per month when they should have only been charged $5, according to your account agreement. You walk into the bank and are told that the bank is compensated customers for the fees they were falsely charged over the past year. You are told that you will receive a $500 credit in your account for the fees charged over the past year. At the same time, you see your friend next to you there to get his refund as well. Your friend only has 1 account and is also told he will be compensated $500.

    Fair?
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    Caiaphas wrote: »
    Thanks, 11411181, but I don't need you or anyone else to vindicate me. I am not wrong. I am not trying to generate sympathy. I have the case numbers for both cases for reference. I am not looking for your help - I am looking for help from EA/CG, after the ticket/support system has run its course.

    Link to (edited) screenshot of email from the EA Help supervisor: https://imgur.com/lzb0tVt

    EA/CG: It would seem odd to open a ticket with EA Help, about the inconsistency in service at EA Help. Is there another option or way to escalate?

    I liked how you edited out the ONE thing that would actually prove your argument and give context to why the support rep mentioned spend amounts.

    Ain't nobody got time for this.
  • Caiaphas
    187 posts Member
    edited September 2017
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    If you ain't got time for it, lay off and post elsewhere. Like I said, I have the case reference numbers. I will share them with EA/CG. They can determine if the cases are identical. That is not for you to decide. This has nothing to do with you, so go away.

    I am being guarded because I am not interested in explaining the issue to everyone. I wouldn't want everyone to jump on the wagon and submit tickets too. Although at this point I don't know why I would be protecting EA/CG from more complaints and support tickets.

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    Caiaphas wrote: »
    I opened a ticket with EA Help, and after some discussions with them, and an escalation to a supervisor, I got a response that included:
    "However, seeing your spend level in the game, the maximum compensation we cam offer is <not shown>"
    After seeing my spend level?
    Surely that is not right! What does my spend level have to do with support issues?!?
    EDIT: is this a complaint that I can escalate, and if so, how?

    Yeah, generally higher paying customers get better service. I'm guessing you never worked in restaurant, hotel, retail, customer service, or sales fields before.
    Two Time Golden Poo Award Winner
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    I have been dealing with EA for over month now for missing credits. Half of them have no clue that there is a Stat Wars game under EA. I was told by one "honnest " customer service rep that EA has over 300 games and the majority of their employees no nothing about any of there games. Also that rep told me that my case should of been escalated when it first came instead of weeks later. They will give you contradictory statements and hope you won't notice it. They will delete your case like it doesn't exist or that it has been resolved Be as polite as possible but call them out on it. Tell them that you want this resolved and will keep on calling and commenting everywhere until it's resolved. Also mentioned that your are documenting everything. Also any interaction you have with them you want it documented in a record or email. You can also mention your lack of service and how it effects you . If you have spent money and missing let them know it's borderline theft or fraud. Also let them know of patterns and trends you noticed that bags effected your case. I have come across a couple good ea customer service who feel hindered in the process and want to help you. But then you have to wait for the specialist. Every customer service rep is not allowed to think for themselves and refer you to the specialist. Each specialist wil refer you to a specialist and so on. Also when "working" on your case you will get random messages telling you that your case has been resolved by random people who have never contacted you before. None of them communicate to each other or read any of your case study. Also if you open to check on your case and respond that you want a phone call or email on your case status they have said that means they can delete that case because your are satisfied with that case even though your checking on your status . When I explained that this logically make no sense and how does a business run there operation like this. You will get silence. So they tell you that you have to open a new case for every incident even if it's related to previous cases. Currently I'm taking bets on when EA resolves my two cases.
  • 11411181
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    edited September 2017
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    Caiaphas wrote: »
    If you ain't got time for it, lay off and post elsewhere. Like I said, I have the case reference numbers. I will share them with EA/CG. They can determine if the cases are identical. That is not for you to decide. This has nothing to do with you, so go away.

    I am being guarded because I am not interested in explaining the issue to everyone. I wouldn't want everyone to jump on the wagon and submit tickets too. Although at this point I don't know why I would be protecting EA/CG from more complaints and support tickets.

    Kek, so you're clearly trying to scam the system through plausible deniability and don't want other people to piggyback off you.

    For anyone that ever wonders what the online equivalent of the middle-aged "I want to speak to your manager right now!" woman with that haircut is, here you are.

    EA might be synonymous with Evil A- in some regards, but in this instance - they're correct. May your mod drops be forever grey.
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    11411181 wrote: »
    Caiaphas wrote: »
    If you ain't got time for it, lay off and post elsewhere. Like I said, I have the case reference numbers. I will share them with EA/CG. They can determine if the cases are identical. That is not for you to decide. This has nothing to do with you, so go away.

    I am being guarded because I am not interested in explaining the issue to everyone. I wouldn't want everyone to jump on the wagon and submit tickets too. Although at this point I don't know why I would be protecting EA/CG from more complaints and support tickets.

    Kek, so you're clearly trying to scam the system through plausible deniability and don't want other people to piggyback off you.

    For anyone that ever wonders what the online equivalent of the middle-aged "I want to speak to your manager right now!" woman with that haircut is, here you are.

    EA might be synonymous with Evil A- in some regards, but in this instance - they're correct. May your mod drops be forever grey.

    I would disagree. At the very least, the phrasing in the email is horrible, and inviteds itself to misrepresentation about what they mean. At the most, it's the perfect example of disconnect between the company and the consumer.

    Everyone brings something to this game for EA- With whales it's money. With F2Ps it's time and someone for the whales to stomp on to have fun. Without Whales, the game cannot surrive. Without F2P, the game cannot surrive. To EA's defense, you cannot measure the worth of time or such, concretely. You can with money.

    At the same time however, money spent shouldn't be the only method determining recompense. If, say, the bug is something in Arena that prevented both players from taking 1st, there isn't really any reason to compensate them differently, is there? Or it was an issue with a pack not buying correctly or such?

    As an afternote, I would encourage you to be a bit more civil. Your current behavior and appearent tone would indicate you as what would easily be described with as a troll- which, if that's what you're going for, congratulations! You nailed it. Though I prefer more subtle trolling myself. If that wasn't what you're going for, then it may be good to think about how you're coming off to other people.
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