Here's a tip: Focus on GW, NOT arena
February 20, 2016 1:40AM
edited February 2016
Ok all, here's some unsolicited advice from a guy who spends way too much time and money playing this game. If you're F2P or a low spender, you'll get more bang for your buck by focusing your time and resources on Galactic War, versus the arena. Here's why:
1.) Credit Payouts: Clearing a GW nets you ~450K for a full clear, which can be repeated daily. This is more than sufficient funds to level and star 5-6 core toons. Even if you can only hit node 6-7 each time you'll still clear over a million credits per week. Arena nets you very little credits, which doesn't help you level anything.
2.) Better Currency Payout: 1200 GW currency for a full clear (with no ranking system at all) versus a max of 1000 currency for finishing 1st in squad arena. This allows you to purchase 15 character shards/day versus no more than 10 (occasionally 15) if you finish 1st in arena. Only one person can finish 1st in arena meaning the vast majority of you aren't doing that.
3) Better Versatility between game modes: A strong GW squad is more than capable of cracking the top 100-200 (depending on how strong your server is) in arena. The difference between finishing 11th and 200th in arena is literally only 75 currency. NOT WORTH IT
So baldman....how should I go about doing this?? Well, there are a million GW guides on here, so there's a plethora of information you can obtain via the search function. BUT....focus on getting 2 solid healers, 2 solid dps with decent synergy, and a tank.
Most new players focus exclusively on their arena teams. The meta for GW is survivability, not damage/speed.
1.) Credit Payouts: Clearing a GW nets you ~450K for a full clear, which can be repeated daily. This is more than sufficient funds to level and star 5-6 core toons. Even if you can only hit node 6-7 each time you'll still clear over a million credits per week. Arena nets you very little credits, which doesn't help you level anything.
2.) Better Currency Payout: 1200 GW currency for a full clear (with no ranking system at all) versus a max of 1000 currency for finishing 1st in squad arena. This allows you to purchase 15 character shards/day versus no more than 10 (occasionally 15) if you finish 1st in arena. Only one person can finish 1st in arena meaning the vast majority of you aren't doing that.
3) Better Versatility between game modes: A strong GW squad is more than capable of cracking the top 100-200 (depending on how strong your server is) in arena. The difference between finishing 11th and 200th in arena is literally only 75 currency. NOT WORTH IT
So baldman....how should I go about doing this?? Well, there are a million GW guides on here, so there's a plethora of information you can obtain via the search function. BUT....focus on getting 2 solid healers, 2 solid dps with decent synergy, and a tank.
Most new players focus exclusively on their arena teams. The meta for GW is survivability, not damage/speed.
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7* Sid
7* Lumi
7* HK
7* JC
7* Kylo
occasionally have QGJ 5* in there to burn down a dooku
I have a decent B team that can take out a toon or two.
I'm constantly in the top 100, around the 50-80 range, which is fine by me
Exactly my point. You have a VERY solid team that isn't top tier in arena, but still nets you a sub-100 ranking and a solid clear rate for GW. Will done good sir
I think a lot of it boils down to running at least 2 healers, and accepting that sometimes the game glitches out and gives you a wall of enemy 7/70 dps teams that isn't clearable in most cases.
Yep, same with me. I keep my Poe+86+GS, but swap in Bariss Lead + JC. I'll put in my full arena team if I face a strong lvl 70 opponent.
Focusing on GW is smart. Arena is nice for crystals, true, but credits and ability mats becomes a MAJOR issue later on in the game and GW is the best way to sort that problem.
But focusing too much on arena makes GW more difficult because the power of your enemies is based on your arena Squad power...
Ok I just pulled that number out of my hat. But that's my guesstimate and I'm sticking with it.
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I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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Let's look at the numbers, shall we?
Player 1 is able to clear GW daily, and maintain top 100 arena ranking.
-GW nets you ~3.1 mil credits (450,000x7) and 8400 currency (1200x7) for 1 week of full completions, which is equal to 105 character shards
-Arena Ranking of 100 nets you 140,000 credits, 5075 currency, 700 crystals, 60 character shards for 1 week of activity
-Let's say player 1 spends the 100 daily crystals on 2 energy refreshes for gearing
TOTAL: 3.24 mil credits, 13475 currency, 700 crystals, ~165 character shards per week
Player 2 maintains a top 20 arena team and averages a node 7 finish on GW
-GW nets you ~1 mil credits and 4200 currency for 1 week of activity, which is equal to 50 character shards
-Arena Ranking of 20 nets you 210,000 credits, 5425 currency, 1400 crystals, and ~65 character shards per week
-Lets say Player 2 spends the 200 daily crystals for 2 energy refreshes for gearing and 1 cantina refresh. Assuming you hit 30% on your cantina drops, this amounts to an extra 3-5 shards per day, which ~30 shards per week.
TOTAL: 1.21 mil creidts, 9625 currency, 1400 Crystals, ~145 character shards per week.
*Both players spend the same amount of crystals on farming mats, so that aspect cancels itself out.
**Player 1 will also receive character shards from Cantina missions, but for simplicity I just showed the amount of additional cantina mission shards Player 2 will receive with the extra refresh.
Hey i never said not to be balanced haha, i said focusing on GW is downrite foolish. If you re-read, i said "you need to be diverse and place as high in arena as possible".
I would argue that when it comes to players who are still leveling and starring, credits are just as valuable as crystals. I suppose if you're building a team more reliant on cantina mission characters then arena may be more in your favor.
My arena power was 2k less than anyone else in the top five But I made it work and kept bumping up my GW roster. I also agree with the OP. I have quite a few six stars which help me out in a bad spot in GW. Now if they would just release a new toon to GW shipments!
I'm an FTP with 80% clear rate at GW with a top 20 arena team at level 58 where top whales are at 65 now. All you need for GW is a strong Lumi, GS, and QGJ. JC and Talia can rotate as your 2nd healer and Sid as your fifth. You just need to ensue that QGJ and GS always have their assist to start and one of the 3 healers is cooled down.
This also can be an arena team if we'll geared until you can get a proper 5th member. The key in arena is to finish at least top 50 so you can do the 50/50 energy refresh and the 100 Cantina refresh. The 50/50 is critical for gear and the cantina is critical for doubling the progression rate of GS and QGJ.
I agree. Both would be optimal. But your server is still young. In a mature sever, your squad is not viable for top 20 with the current meta....not enough dps. So enjoy your ranking while it lasts. But that is a great GW team.
but what your missing is that from the beginning you focus on an Arena line up that keeps you top 50. This keeps you ahead of the curve of the FTP and small gemmers. As you get replacements for your 5th and Sid that fills out the GW bench.
I would say don't waste resources on building anyone who is just good for GW until your arena team is solid. Barriss for example is a waste of resources until you have a 7 star arena team.
I believe that developers acknowledged the GW match up issue is a bug but not sure when they will fix it.
But there are also very different reasons why one would prefer Arena over GW, and that would be the PVP aspect of the game, which is what makes the game fun.. the competitive aspect.
not only do I get 250 crystals a day that can go towards refreshes and speed up my leveling. Ideally I would like both, top 10 arena and finish GW, but since most days GW is impossible.. I have to rely on arena for resources. GW isn't very fun when a GW team wipes out your team, in two AOE's the first two turns...
Like I said above....not everyone can be #1 on their server. I gues this post is more geared towards the 19,999 other ppl on your server who DON'T make 500 crystals per day off of arena.
Props to you if you're able to hold rank 1 as a "mostly" F2P player. Chances are you have experience in these types of games and/or did a fair bit of research before you started leveling your team. That's great, but most people didn't do that.
As for GW, you're very fortunate if you've been completing it since the your level 40s. If this is in fact true then no offense....but your opposition when you started GW) wasn't high level. I've been fighting at least 2-3 lvl 65+ squads with purple gear since my early 50s and there's no way you're going to down them unless you have amazing depth....which a F2P player wouldn't have.