I had originally submitted this as a bug - but maybe that was the wrong way to go about it. Currently "When any unit falls under half health, Talzin gains 35% turn meter." And so she acts like the Royal guard, a toon drops under half health, her ability activates TM - but if the unit is killed, nothing happens.
It's a bit of a sad wet kitten, because if a toon has 1001/2000 life and takes 999 damage it's fine, but if they take 1002 damage, then MT's Zeta is worthless.
I also believe Senor Tophat (I think?!) in the NS podcast had brought up this Zeta specifically and how it played with the zombie dying a lot.
And the NS kit, as a whole, is set up around death, dying, and reviving. It's there thing.
Can we please change her Zeta so it's like Anakins -- "Falls below 50%
or is defeated." I understand a lot of fine CLS users probably won't like it, but, as a Zeta on a new toon..... and with the damage Asajj dishes out, MT really needs the "or is defeated" clause added to her contract. Thank you!
@CG_Kozispoon - I gif'ed this one up -- just for you
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Based on my experience thus far: Plague is worthless, for the most part, against CLS/R2/Solo/Thrawn/5th Wheel. It wears off from the time it's applied to the next time an NS can take advantage of it since the **** face enemies get 39 turns between every one of yours. The most effective offense seems to rely much more on the death/revive perks.
On the other hand, I took out a GK/Barris team today (#2 on my shard) in about 1/2 the time. Just spread plague and hammer away at GK. Since the opposition is much more limited in damage compared to CLS the 1/2 way mark is hit more frequently therefore MT gets to fire off her basic more while draining the life out of everyone since the effect doesn't trigger crits/Barris.
I really want to zeta Asajj's lead and try them out swapping Acolyte for Talia. You'd have TM manipulation from Asajj, Talzin, and Talia.
It's okay if he heals. I've been seeing Kenobi, without Barris, remove plagues and he's still at 50% life or even less some times. There's a few bugs I've been posting about
This specific thread is because, based on the NS kit and Asajj's damage - we need Tazin's Zeta to be "Falls below 50% or is defeated." And, honestly, it's a much bigger deal for Raids. In Arena, even the amazing Asajj isn't killing too many toons in one hit - Raid han is about it.
Not to mention that the Zeta is meant to mostly function from Plague stacks on enemies. Most of the time, you won't have enough Plague on someone to drop them from over 50% to dead, so you'll get a lot of TM from Plague.
Also one thing I thought of while writing this is that, if someone dropped below 50%, and was then killed, she'd gain TM twice.
I agree it's a bit of an awkward Zeta, but not every Zeta has to compete with Finn's and R2's in terms of usefulness.
I mean, I written a few times - there's been many comps that have been uneatable by certain teams. You've been on here long enough, Poe, #nerfrey, Wiggs, Chaze, CLS, people have been claiming teams OP and unbeatable but they've always had counters. This is a good thing.
Truly - it'd be better if it just said on death, like Asajj. They'd both get TM on a death. There wouldn't be this bizarre by-pass from too much damage, and there wouldn't be much of an issue then.
If it was just 'when a character dies, Talzin gains % TM' that would be fine. Fits in with a running theme of NS characters, doesn't go over the top. Just about okay.
No... she would only get the turn meter If:
1) The enemy falls under 50% and remains alive.
OR
2) The enemy falls under 50% and dies.
The first of the two to happen should give 35% Turn meter to mother talzin.
Also it does not need to be stated as "Unit falls below 50% or gets defeated" it is obvious that if it was defeated his health reached 0% which is lower than 50% and should activate the turn meter gain.
I am enraged by this issue btw.
So, this need to be fixed so the claim isn’t a falsehood.
Anyway, i have her plague bearer zetaed
Wrong. With the original suggested wording MT could gain TM twice instead of once as described by SpadeFreeman.
So stop spamming them.