Help me fine tune my phoenix squad

Hey all. So I am having a rough time beating other phoenix squads in my arena. I can do it, but sometimes I am missing a few seconds of gametime and get a draw. I have a feeling I am doing something wrong and I see lower GP phoenix squads beat people I could not. Here is my .gg account
https://swgoh.gg/u/lakson/
I am open to all suggestions. Thanks!
To make it easier to look trough, all my toons have mk 4-5 health mods except for ezra who has mk 1-2 offense mods and 2x mk5 HP mods.

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  • As a phnix spammer at 83, i find mirror matching really irritating. I always take out ezra first then kanan/ hera (if kanan have taunt so be it)

    As for mods, i equip zeb and ezra with max speed, others are health and tenacity (especially Hera, since ability lock will not do well for a revive)
  • As a phnix spammer at 83, i find mirror matching really irritating. I always take out ezra first then kanan/ hera (if kanan have taunt so be it)

    As for mods, i equip zeb and ezra with max speed, others are health and tenacity (especially Hera, since ability lock will not do well for a revive)

    How do you get trough chopper and kannan taunts to ezra? I imagine that takes quite some time and you have to use ezra dispell as well wasting valuable damage. What I have been doing so far is:

    Chopper dispells enemy chopper taunt to get rid of that annoying evasion. Ezra assist chopper/ hera assists ezra/ zeb staggers/kannan taunts to remove the debuff on ezra which is there 99% of the time/ take it how it goes from there. Focus on downing chopper down. Sometimes RNG just doesn't work for me and for a 60% double atk chance that ezra sure likes to take it slow...
  • More speed, on everyone.

    No point having good characters if your enemy gets two turns to your one every time.

    In Arena - the side that makes the first kill usually wins the battle.
  • More speed, on everyone.

    No point having good characters if your enemy gets two turns to your one every time.

    In Arena - the side that makes the first kill usually wins the battle.

    I am building up my resistance squad to get those spicy mark 5's. I'll eventually get strong enough to breeze trough. The problem is now tho.
  • LaksonVell wrote: »
    As a phnix spammer at 83, i find mirror matching really irritating. I always take out ezra first then kanan/ hera (if kanan have taunt so be it)

    As for mods, i equip zeb and ezra with max speed, others are health and tenacity (especially Hera, since ability lock will not do well for a revive)

    How do you get trough chopper and kannan taunts to ezra? I imagine that takes quite some time and you have to use ezra dispell as well wasting valuable damage. What I have been doing so far is:

    Chopper dispells enemy chopper taunt to get rid of that annoying evasion. Ezra assist chopper/ hera assists ezra/ zeb staggers/kannan taunts to remove the debuff on ezra which is there 99% of the time/ take it how it goes from there. Focus on downing chopper down. Sometimes RNG just doesn't work for me and for a 60% double atk chance that ezra sure likes to take it slow...


    If Ezra has no debuff that % should double. The first thing to get through taunts is speed, my ezra usually go first then zeb and hera as sequenced: Ezra calls zeb to daze enemy E, then zeb hit again for a stun, then hera calls Ezra to hit.

    The speed enables zeb to inflict daze ( no counter), and stun if hit twice. (That is a strat to get thrawn 7* too)
  • LaksonVell wrote: »
    More speed, on everyone.

    No point having good characters if your enemy gets two turns to your one every time.

    In Arena - the side that makes the first kill usually wins the battle.

    I am building up my resistance squad to get those spicy mark 5's. I'll eventually get strong enough to breeze trough. The problem is now tho.

    I dont really fancy orange suit pilots Wigg, but they can one hit Ezra if you can get **** fast enough to go first. A team with Wigg, Lando, ST Han and Leia should be easier to farm than phnix
  • LaksonVell wrote: »
    More speed, on everyone.

    No point having good characters if your enemy gets two turns to your one every time.

    In Arena - the side that makes the first kill usually wins the battle.

    I am building up my resistance squad to get those spicy mark 5's. I'll eventually get strong enough to breeze trough. The problem is now tho.

    I dont really fancy orange suit pilots Wigg, but they can one hit Ezra if you can get **** fast enough to go first. A team with Wigg, Lando, ST Han and Leia should be easier to farm than phnix

    How is wedge farmable? Especialy for lower tier players, I am just level 66
  • LaksonVell wrote: »
    LaksonVell wrote: »
    More speed, on everyone.

    No point having good characters if your enemy gets two turns to your one every time.

    In Arena - the side that makes the first kill usually wins the battle.

    I am building up my resistance squad to get those spicy mark 5's. I'll eventually get strong enough to breeze trough. The problem is now tho.

    I dont really fancy orange suit pilots Wigg, but they can one hit Ezra if you can get **** fast enough to go first. A team with Wigg, Lando, ST Han and Leia should be easier to farm than phnix

    How is wedge farmable? Especialy for lower tier players, I am just level 66

    Wedge is farmable in the fleet shipments. For a level 66 player, that's not a bad idea to farm him there. His also in cantina battles, though I don't remember the specific node.
  • Goodgil wrote: »
    His also in cantina battles, though I don't remember the specific node.

    6-F Normal.

  • Thanks guys, 6 unlocks in a few levels, so about a week. I considered buying him from fleet shipments, but I am stretching thin because I am working on zeta challenge **** which I find a tad bit more important at the moment. Keeping top 10 in fleet is also a good bonus.
  • I don't think you'll ever be able to phoenix vs phoenix without a draw every once in a while. What I do when I'm FORCED to fight another phoenix is go through the enemy squads and try to find the weak links. Chopper and Hera are usually the most neglected so I generally try to rush down one of them. Taking out chopper early helps a ton, one less taunt plus his unique usually seals the deal.

    The best route for arena is to hunt Nightsisters.
  • Liath
    5140 posts Member
    LaksonVell wrote: »
    More speed, on everyone.

    No point having good characters if your enemy gets two turns to your one every time.

    In Arena - the side that makes the first kill usually wins the battle.

    I am building up my resistance squad to get those spicy mark 5's. I'll eventually get strong enough to breeze trough. The problem is now tho.

    Speed sets are nice sometimes, but it’s mostly about speed secondaries (and primary on the arrow) regardless of set.
  • I don't think you'll ever be able to phoenix vs phoenix without a draw every once in a while. What I do when I'm FORCED to fight another phoenix is go through the enemy squads and try to find the weak links. Chopper and Hera are usually the most neglected so I generally try to rush down one of them. Taking out chopper early helps a ton, one less taunt plus his unique usually seals the deal.

    The best route for arena is to hunt Nightsisters.

    Realy? I run from them like the plague. NS should be countered by AoE which phoenxi desperately lack. And I dont have the manpower to eliminate a single NS during zombie break
  • LaksonVell wrote: »
    I don't think you'll ever be able to phoenix vs phoenix without a draw every once in a while. What I do when I'm FORCED to fight another phoenix is go through the enemy squads and try to find the weak links. Chopper and Hera are usually the most neglected so I generally try to rush down one of them. Taking out chopper early helps a ton, one less taunt plus his unique usually seals the deal.

    The best route for arena is to hunt Nightsisters.

    Realy? I run from them like the plague. NS should be countered by AoE which phoenxi desperately lack. And I dont have the manpower to eliminate a single NS during zombie break

    I've only timed out twice against Nightsisters and being on a new shard I face the same dozen people, literally. 8 are phoenix, two are nightsisters, 1 is empire (that just owns me) and the last is a rebel squad that also owns me pretty hard. I can usually beat phoenix but I have a much higher chance of timing out.

    Nightsisters on the other hand just require me to play fast and usually takes about 4 minutes to beat. I just focus down Daka>Asajj>talia>MT>zombie. Plague isn't a threat at all, and the only threat MT brings is her attack assist that taunts the zombie, so just knock out the healing as fast as possible.
  • No keep the team just get more gear on all of them. Also omega all their abilities especially all their uniques.
  • CountPookoo
    189 posts Member
    edited February 2018
    NS are easy provided you stick to the kill order.

    Daka>MT>ventriss.

    1. Why do i kill MT second? forces Ventriss to heal and MT is usually lowish after my phoenix have countered her AoE. If for some reason Ventriss is low I will attack her but i try not to let MT get off her plague AoE too many times.
    2. Use Zebs special - cannot stress how amazing this skill is..When debuffed him and Kanan can stun - stun - stun, even better when Kanan is taunting.
    3. Acolyte teams are irritating b/c the usual lineup doesn’t run Sabine so you just have to wait till one of her stealths to fail then dispel zombie and kill Acolyte - Phoenix have 2 dispels so use them wisely and strategically. 55% stealth feels like foreva - I’ve had a fight where she went 12 shots in a row stealthed - really doesn’t feel like 55%..lol

    Equally geared you should be fine vs NS and at higher gear Phoenix walk all over NS.
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  • NS are easy provided you stick to the kill order.

    Daka>MT>ventriss.

    1. Why do i kill MT second? forces Ventriss to heal and MT is usually lowish after my phoenix have countered her AoE. If for some reason Ventriss is low I will attack her but i try not to let MT get off her plague AoE too many times.
    2. Use Zebs special - cannot stress how amazing this skill is..When debuffed him and Kanan can stun - stun - stun, even better when Kanan is taunting.
    3. Acolyte teams are irritating b/c the usual lineup doesn’t run Sabine so you just have to wait till one of her stealths to fail then dispel zombie and kill Acolyte - Phoenix have 2 dispels so use them wisely and strategically. 55% stealth feels like foreva - I’ve had a fight where she went 12 shots in a row stealthed - really doesn’t feel like 55%..lol

    Equally geared you should be fine vs NS and at higher gear Phoenix walk all over NS.

    Tell me about it! I once had a draw over an equally geared NS, with constant taunting Zombie and perma stealth Acolyte. Didnt have many options to hit though LOL
  • So stick to basic attacks and wait for a zombie opening, focus daka, then MT and possibly asajj, then pray for rngeezus for stealth...
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