Vader's Force Crush being countered?
March 29, 2018 4:14PM
edited March 2018
I run EP Vader Sion Shore and Blue. When I open with force crush I often see Raid Han and CLS counter and wreck my Shore. Can someone else test for me or explain what I am missing? I think it may be bugged.
EDIT: This appears to happen only with a pretaunt up like Shoretrooper.
Edit: and someone tell me how to change my avatar? I cant find it and my angryface makes me feel bad.
EDIT: This appears to happen only with a pretaunt up like Shoretrooper.
Edit: and someone tell me how to change my avatar? I cant find it and my angryface makes me feel bad.
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Luke gains TM from the attack and then han gains tm from Luke landing debuffs.
I have not found a way to change it on mobile, i go to the full site and then profile and click the image to change.
I agree. I run Phoenix, so if ANYONE was going to counter force crush, I would have seen it. Masked Kylo is a frequent recipient of group hugs. Never seen Vader trigger a single counter with Force Crush.
Ditto this. When an enemy character gets full TM because you landed a debuff or a crit that triggered one of their abilities, it can often look like the resulting attack is a counter when it is, in fact, just that enemy character taking their turn because they hit full TM. This is especially the case when you play at faster speed like 4x.
Vader's Saber Throw doesn't ALWAYS immediately follow Force Crush.
Yea it's RNG. Ex if u face rex team, ur force crush get crit hit a lot n boost rex team TM, there's a chance enemy cut ur turn.
Do they attack at the same time like a typical counter or do they each take their own turns?
Yes I think that is it. Vader doesnt get countered by himself but when shore has his pre-taunt up they do counter.
Same time. See my post above. 99% sure its a bug.
CLS gains 10% tm for every rebel that takes damage so i know there was at least 2 Han and cls so that was at least 20% tm gain which could have pushed cls to 100% and rng said he went next.
With a pretaunt cls would have used his dispel which inflicts 2 resistable debuffs and if he was lead and the TM and the buff immunity were resisted Han would gain 10% tm which again could be enough to push him to 100%.
I use Ewoks with Han all the time vs Vader and Ewoks normally have retribution by the time Vader gets to use force crush and I have never seen them counter attack him.
On a slightly related issue, I think if Shore has his taunt up and an enemy with pain counters, there is a chance that the counter will go to Shores taunt and not Sion, which would also be bugged.
It might also happen against Sith Troopers pre-taunt but I dont have him geared. Id love if others would keep an eye out for it. I dont mind testing it but Arena refreshes cost crystals.
one of the few downsides between running multiple tanks.
Like others said, the whole force crush being countered is probably not happening. I would get some video evidence and then it'd be rather hard to dispute
Why would that be bugged? Taunts intercept counter attacks. Sion only taunts during the turn of an enemy that has pain.
If it is a counter attack it is the turn of an ally of sion and sion won't be taunting so all counter attacks should go to a taunting shore trooper. Also if there are multiple taunts it is rng which taunter the counter attack goes to.
This about Sion makes sense. Thank you. I still think the force crush is a bug but am willing to keep an open mind. Its possible for CLS to gain TM on an enemy turn but he should still use his sweep. I dont think it is possible for Han, so he should not counter.
Yes it's very easy. Lots of apps in app store (at least for android), such as DU recorder.