Should Fulcrum have a Phoenix tag?
April 10, 2018 11:00PM
edited April 2018
I have been a big fan of the Phoenix faction in this game. However, I have been disappointed to find that they are not as useful in the higher levels as they were when I was lower. Though it would be awesome if it was ever decided to do reworks on them, I think a simple solution to give a little more fluidity and adaptability to the faction would be to add the Phoenix tag to Ahsoka Tano (Fulcrum). I think this change, coupled with Hera's leader ability, would bring a welcome improvement to the Phx faction, without negatively impacting anyone who currently uses the faction.
We know that CG listens when enough of us ask for something, like how they've added a Rogue One tag (thanks CG!).
What do you think?
We know that CG listens when enough of us ask for something, like how they've added a Rogue One tag (thanks CG!).
What do you think?
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Should Fulcrum have a Phoenix tag? 73 votes
Yes! Please add the Phoenix tag to her right away!
56%
41 votes
It doesn't matter to me either way.
8%
6 votes
No, why would they do that?
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26 votes
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In a dev video interview they commented that at the end
Define "game breaking" please? I mean, unless it would create a new meta, I don't see what the big deal is. (And even then...) That's actually the point really: sharing her unique would allow the Phx faction to function in different (better) ways.
If Bistan gets the Rogue One tag, doesn't Ahsoka deserve the Phx tag? She is a big part of their story.
Seems to me that these two uniques wouldn't come together to make a super-effect. On the contrary, Kanan gets a positive effect from the debuff, while Ahsoka gets a negative effect, so they cancel each other out. The end result is essentially just that rebuffs don't stick. Not exactly OP--seems intriguing to me.
So basically they become the sith raid
Of course, anyone who can land 3 debuff or more at a time (Vader, for example) will still trigger the damage in Ahsoka's unique.
Oh and they re immune to DoTs permanently
I see that. They could always make that part only apply to Ahsoka. Like Chop's assists aren't shared.
Ok, thanks for clarifying. It's a valid concern I guess, though I'm not sure if it's accurate. Phoenix is a fairly low-damage faction, so I would think that would balance it out. I'm no expert though.
Still, you might be right...
if you considered CLS as "just creating a new meta" when he was released, then yes.
They cleanse at the end of every characters turn. Every single one.Allies and enemies included
First off, they are not irrelevant. They are used in TW fairly frequently - especially on defense due to their high survivability.
Secondly, as has been pointed out an explained in great detail, AFT sharing her unique would basically create a situation where no debuffs would ever stick to Phoenix characters - and at the rate they buff themselves they would become virtually undefeatable, thus creating a time-out team in arena. No one (especially CG) wants that.
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- http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ahsoka_Tano
- http://starwarsrebels.wikia.com/wiki/Ahsoka_Tano
... they said she is the leader of the Phoenix Squadron but not a part of the Spectres. Our six characters are the 'Spectres'. And Ahsoka is not one of them.So in my conclusion that Kanan Jarrus/Caleb Dume, Hera Syndulla, Chopper, Zeb, Sabine and Ezra Bridger (and maybe Jacen Syndulla) are 'the Spectres'. This game can change the unique of Kanan and ATF, but she will be the reason for the joining of the Spectres and she integrated them.
I have to mention that it doen't care for the rebels tag but for the phoenix tag it would be necessary because Hera gave them the ability as a leadership that they each other granted their uniques.
If the game wants to release more chars like tie pilot Wedge Antilles, tie pilot Rake Gahree and tie pilot Hobbie alias Derek Klivian and Commander Jun Sato, Fulcrum I will get a rework for a leader ability.
I must have read that specter tag wrong... all this time I thought it said pheonix. How weird is that?
She was part of Phoenix Squadron, she just wasn't part of the Spectre team.
Yes. Fulcrum is a part of Phoenix Squadron, which is much larger than just the crew of the Ghost. Basically everyone under Admiral Sato was Phoenix Squadron, and the Ghost was just one small part.
And the usual snapshot model doesn't work here, like it does for Fulcrum not being Jedi, or Asajj not being Sith. Fulcrum is specifically a title for Phoenix Squadron intelligence. There is no point where Ahsoka is Fulcrum and isn't Phoenix Squadron.
Now, mechanically, that's a whole other argument, and it may take a rework to her, or changing the Phoenix tag to the Specter tag, or just rolling with it because it's not that important.
I'm fairly confident that if she had a Unique like the Resistance Trooper this would have never even been suggested, and definitely wouldn't if she had a Leader ability rather than a Unique.
Since Fulcrum effectively gave orders to Hera, how about this, We add the Phoenix tag to Fulcrum, but change her Unique to a Leader ability giving full effects to Phoenix members and half effects to others?
Now it's the time this secret is revealed
The phoenix squadron/phoenix cell also consists of Cdr Wolffe, Gregor, Hondo and Fenn Rau
while the Spectres consists of following member:
• Jedi-Knight Kanan Jarrus
• General Hera Syndulla
• Chopper/C1-10P
• Captain Zeb Orrelios
• Sabine Wren
• Jedi-Padawan Ezra Bridger
• Jacen Syndulla (son of Hera Syndulla + Kanan Jarrus): http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jacen_Syndulla