He was 0/2 against sith.... If anything they should have a bonus against him....
Not really. Against Dooku he was clearly winning, until Dooku decided to retreat. He had to make a choice between pursuing Dooku and saving two Jedi. Not much of a choice.
Against Sidious it was a bit more even, but at the end Sidious was hanging from a Senate podium. Yoda could have yanked it down, and Sidious would've been crushed. I have no idea why he didn't. Regardless, Yoda didn't so much lose as he broke even with Sidious.
He was 0/2 against sith.... If anything they should have a bonus against him....
Not really. Against Dooku he was clearly winning, until Dooku decided to retreat. He had to make a choice between pursuing Dooku and saving two Jedi. Not much of a choice.
Against Sidious it was a bit more even, but at the end Sidious was hanging from a Senate podium. Yoda could have yanked it down, and Sidious would've been crushed. I have no idea why he didn't. Regardless, Yoda didn't so much lose as he broke even with Sidious.
He failed against Sidious.. said so himself.....
He should have killed Dooku.... That would have saved more than two Jedi, because the battle of geonosis would never have happened... Plus, if annakin would have died, mace would have killed Palpatine.....
Dooku was trying to get the heck out of Dodge, his only goal in those fights was to get away. Yoda's only goal in that duel was to stop Dooku. They fought to a standstill (after Dooku had already easily beaten Anakin and Kenobi) and Dooku fled. That's a decisive victory for Dooku.
hahahhaha, well Dooku got what he wanted, so I agree it's a victory for him. But decisive? errrrr, a retreat is at best a tactical victory. no war or battle has ever been won by retreat alone
He was 0/2 against sith.... If anything they should have a bonus against him....
Not really. Against Dooku he was clearly winning, until Dooku decided to retreat. He had to make a choice between pursuing Dooku and saving two Jedi. Not much of a choice.
Against Sidious it was a bit more even, but at the end Sidious was hanging from a Senate podium. Yoda could have yanked it down, and Sidious would've been crushed. I have no idea why he didn't. Regardless, Yoda didn't so much lose as he broke even with Sidious.
He failed against Sidious.. said so himself.....
He should have killed Dooku.... That would have saved more than two Jedi, because the battle of geonosis would never have happened... Plus, if annakin would have died, mace would have killed Palpatine.....
You can argue that he failed against Sidious, especially since he said so himself, but I'll maintain he had Sidious beaten, but somehow didn't realize it. Sidious won the mental fight, Yoda won the physical fight, imho.
But Dooku it's pretty clear, he only escaped because Yoda let him. Yoda decided it would be better to save Obi and Anakin, for better or worse. That doesn't mean Dooku won, it means Yoda couldn't achieve every objective so he prioritised.
Dooku was trying to get the heck out of Dodge, his only goal in those fights was to get away. Yoda's only goal in that duel was to stop Dooku. They fought to a standstill (after Dooku had already easily beaten Anakin and Kenobi) and Dooku fled. That's a decisive victory for Dooku.
I didn't see it that way. To me, Dooku was trying to escape, while Yoda was trying to rescue Obi and Anakin. Both had side objectives (beat Yoda and kill the Jedi, beat Dooku and capture him), but those weren't the priority. They fought with the Force, and neither had an edge. They then duel, and Yoda had a clear edge. Dooku was never going to be able to match Yoda, so he retreated. Both accomplished their main objective, neither fully accomplished their side objective. But Yoda wasn't the one who gave up on the duel. Therefore Yoda at least accomplished half of his side objective, he beat Dooku. He just didn't capture him.
He was 0/2 against sith.... If anything they should have a bonus against him....
Not really. Against Dooku he was clearly winning, until Dooku decided to retreat. He had to make a choice between pursuing Dooku and saving two Jedi. Not much of a choice.
Against Sidious it was a bit more even, but at the end Sidious was hanging from a Senate podium. Yoda could have yanked it down, and Sidious would've been crushed. I have no idea why he didn't. Regardless, Yoda didn't so much lose as he broke even with Sidious.
He failed against Sidious.. said so himself.....
He should have killed Dooku.... That would have saved more than two Jedi, because the battle of geonosis would never have happened... Plus, if annakin would have died, mace would have killed Palpatine.....
He fought Sid to a stalemate. So yeah that was a failure... although that means Sid also failed against Yoda. Which also meant their fighting prowess was close to equal.
Also I'm unclear on how not letting his friends get squished because he didn't see the future has anything to do with his fighting ability. Dooku was losing, and had to retreat.
Although you are 2/2 with troll posts. So that's something.
Lol.... Sidious isn't the one who fell 200 feet and landed in a crumpled mess and ran away...... You can't say Yoda won because Dooku retreated then say Sidious lost after goes retreated.....
Lol.... Sidious isn't the one who fell 200 feet and landed in a crumpled mess and ran away...... You can't say Yoda won because Dooku retreated then say Sidious lost after goes retreated.....
Sure you can by looking at the entire situation, and motivations involved. But if you concede that whoever retreated failed (even if one of them only retreated because his entire order was dead, and he was minutes from fighting Sid while surrounded by a thousand mine controlled clones) then that means you have to admit that Yoda was at least 1/2.
Don’t think Jedi will get a rework. Besides Luke/Rey. Jedi seem to be Losing their place in the Star Wars universe. Kenobi may get a new toon if there’s a movie. But Jedi are not on Disney’s radar.
Lol.... Sidious isn't the one who fell 200 feet and landed in a crumpled mess and ran away...... You can't say Yoda won because Dooku retreated then say Sidious lost after goes retreated.....
Sure you can by looking at the entire situation, and motivations involved. But if you concede that whoever retreated failed (even if one of them only retreated because his entire order was dead, and he was minutes from fighting Sid while surrounded by a thousand mine controlled clones) then that means you have to admit that Yoda was at least 1/2.
Nah..... I could concede on Dooku..... Maybe give him that one since he clearly had the upper hand and Dooku retreated...... But sidious beat him, even Yoda himself conceded that he failed....
He was 0/2 against sith.... If anything they should have a bonus against him....
Not really. Against Dooku he was clearly winning, until Dooku decided to retreat. He had to make a choice between pursuing Dooku and saving two Jedi. Not much of a choice.
Against Sidious it was a bit more even, but at the end Sidious was hanging from a Senate podium. Yoda could have yanked it down, and Sidious would've been crushed. I have no idea why he didn't. Regardless, Yoda didn't so much lose as he broke even with Sidious.
a jedi uses his strength for knowledge and defense, never attack. have i thought you nothing, hmm?
Now that BH have been reworked, the only faction now with a bonus that makes no sense is JKA and GM yoda and they've been going through those factions on the bonus list it seems. They also cryptically added to a comment in one of the recent Q&A's about more jedi. I think the jedi rework looks likely to be next.
Now that BH have been reworked, the only faction now with a bonus that makes no sense is JKA and GM yoda and they've been going through those factions on the bonus list it seems. They also cryptically added to a comment in one of the recent Q&A's about more jedi. I think the jedi rework looks likely to be next.
Crossing fingers. Have been waiting for this for more than a year
He was 0/2 against sith.... If anything they should have a bonus against him....
Not really. Against Dooku he was clearly winning, until Dooku decided to retreat. He had to make a choice between pursuing Dooku and saving two Jedi. Not much of a choice.
Against Sidious it was a bit more even, but at the end Sidious was hanging from a Senate podium. Yoda could have yanked it down, and Sidious would've been crushed. I have no idea why he didn't. Regardless, Yoda didn't so much lose as he broke even with Sidious.
He failed against Sidious.. said so himself.....
He should have killed Dooku.... That would have saved more than two Jedi, because the battle of geonosis would never have happened... Plus, if annakin would have died, mace would have killed Palpatine.....
He fought Sid to a stalemate. So yeah that was a failure... although that means Sid also failed against Yoda. Which also meant their fighting prowess was close to equal.
Also I'm unclear on how not letting his friends get squished because he didn't see the future has anything to do with his fighting ability. Dooku was losing, and had to retreat.
Although you are 2/2 with troll posts. So that's something.
I typically enjoy your posts on here Jace..... But, bottom line, I still fail to see why Yoda should get a bonus against sith, which is what started this debate..... Not everyone is a superfan of then little green guy, that doesn't make them trolls.....
Now that BH have been reworked, the only faction now with a bonus that makes no sense is JKA and GM yoda and they've been going through those factions on the bonus list it seems. They also cryptically added to a comment in one of the recent Q&A's about more jedi. I think the jedi rework looks likely to be next.
Crossing fingers. Have been waiting for this for more than a year
Now just imagine the outrage if the next reworked faction is the JAWAS!
GM Yoda, Mace Windu, and JKA need reworks. I feel like Ima Gun Di, Plo Koon, Kit Fisto, and Aayla are fine the way they are, they just need to boost their offense so they can do some real damage. I'd say the same about QGJ, but he might just be about right as a support.
JC/Lumi should stay the same because they're like the perfect starter toons. Eeth Koth, and JG should stay the same bc not every toon needs to be viable. Gotta have some trash.
Finally, I desperately want them to add Shaak Ti and Ki Adi Mundi as toons to use. New healer and new attacker.
GM Yoda, Mace Windu, and JKA need reworks. I feel like Ima Gun Di, Plo Koon, Kit Fisto, and Aayla are fine the way they are, they just need to boost their offense so they can do some real damage. I'd say the same about QGJ, but he might just be about right as a support.
JC/Lumi should stay the same because they're like the perfect starter toons. Eeth Koth, and JG should stay the same bc not every toon needs to be viable. Gotta have some trash.
Finally, I desperately want them to add Shaak Ti and Ki Adi Mundi as toons to use. New healer and new attacker.
Lol..... They could add ki-adi-mundi and he would only have one move which sent Kenobi to do stuff..... Ima-Gunna-Die is fine as is.....
Bit late to the party on this one but had to have my pennies worth. Yoda is clearly superior to Dooku and Palpatine and had they stayed and fought instead of running away then Yoda would have beaten them. Simple as that. So why shouldn’t have some sort of bonus against Sith?
Bit late to the party on this one but had to have my pennies worth. Yoda is clearly superior to Dooku and Palpatine and had they stayed and fought instead of running away then Yoda would have beaten them. Simple as that. So why shouldn’t have some sort of bonus against Sith?
Well his kit reveal for his rework is coming today so... wait and see what changes were made?
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He was 0/2 against sith.... If anything they should have a bonus against him....
Not really. Against Dooku he was clearly winning, until Dooku decided to retreat. He had to make a choice between pursuing Dooku and saving two Jedi. Not much of a choice.
Against Sidious it was a bit more even, but at the end Sidious was hanging from a Senate podium. Yoda could have yanked it down, and Sidious would've been crushed. I have no idea why he didn't. Regardless, Yoda didn't so much lose as he broke even with Sidious.
http://swgoh.gg/u/Corrog/
http://swgoh.gg/u/Talshin/
He failed against Sidious.. said so himself.....
He should have killed Dooku.... That would have saved more than two Jedi, because the battle of geonosis would never have happened... Plus, if annakin would have died, mace would have killed Palpatine.....
You can argue that he failed against Sidious, especially since he said so himself, but I'll maintain he had Sidious beaten, but somehow didn't realize it. Sidious won the mental fight, Yoda won the physical fight, imho.
But Dooku it's pretty clear, he only escaped because Yoda let him. Yoda decided it would be better to save Obi and Anakin, for better or worse. That doesn't mean Dooku won, it means Yoda couldn't achieve every objective so he prioritised.
I didn't see it that way. To me, Dooku was trying to escape, while Yoda was trying to rescue Obi and Anakin. Both had side objectives (beat Yoda and kill the Jedi, beat Dooku and capture him), but those weren't the priority. They fought with the Force, and neither had an edge. They then duel, and Yoda had a clear edge. Dooku was never going to be able to match Yoda, so he retreated. Both accomplished their main objective, neither fully accomplished their side objective. But Yoda wasn't the one who gave up on the duel. Therefore Yoda at least accomplished half of his side objective, he beat Dooku. He just didn't capture him.
http://swgoh.gg/u/Corrog/
http://swgoh.gg/u/Talshin/
He fought Sid to a stalemate. So yeah that was a failure... although that means Sid also failed against Yoda. Which also meant their fighting prowess was close to equal.
Also I'm unclear on how not letting his friends get squished because he didn't see the future has anything to do with his fighting ability. Dooku was losing, and had to retreat.
Although you are 2/2 with troll posts. So that's something.
Sure you can by looking at the entire situation, and motivations involved. But if you concede that whoever retreated failed (even if one of them only retreated because his entire order was dead, and he was minutes from fighting Sid while surrounded by a thousand mine controlled clones) then that means you have to admit that Yoda was at least 1/2.
Nah..... I could concede on Dooku..... Maybe give him that one since he clearly had the upper hand and Dooku retreated...... But sidious beat him, even Yoda himself conceded that he failed....
a jedi uses his strength for knowledge and defense, never attack. have i thought you nothing, hmm?
Crossing fingers. Have been waiting for this for more than a year
I typically enjoy your posts on here Jace..... But, bottom line, I still fail to see why Yoda should get a bonus against sith, which is what started this debate..... Not everyone is a superfan of then little green guy, that doesn't make them trolls.....
Now just imagine the outrage if the next reworked faction is the JAWAS!
JC/Lumi should stay the same because they're like the perfect starter toons. Eeth Koth, and JG should stay the same bc not every toon needs to be viable. Gotta have some trash.
Finally, I desperately want them to add Shaak Ti and Ki Adi Mundi as toons to use. New healer and new attacker.
Lol..... They could add ki-adi-mundi and he would only have one move which sent Kenobi to do stuff..... Ima-Gunna-Die is fine as is.....
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Get it right...
Well his kit reveal for his rework is coming today so... wait and see what changes were made?