Are you satisfied with the new Ship 2.0 update?

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Altazar
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Are you satisfied with the new Ship 2.0 update? 119 votes

Yes, absolutely.
22%
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No. It's terrible.
77%
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  • leef
    10475 posts Member
    Are you personally doing worse in fleet than you were doing before?
    That question is probably interchangeable with the question in the poll and you'll get the same results.
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  • Bettz
    13 posts Member
    My issue was the lack of communication, and now transparency. A ton of ship abilities, and worse, base stats were dramatically changed. We had become used to how these units played, and now they got a massive shift (most major nerfs) without warning.

    In one of the dev interviews with hallface I believe they said none of the changes were that severe...that is simply not the case looking at tfp, reaper, and fotp for example.
  • Altazar
    35 posts Member
    No. It's terrible.
    I will agree with majority of this poll. Ships became more difficult in understanding of abilities. 3v3 became much harder if you are batling at top 20 at fleet arena. And the last - everything (stats, tactics and etc) should be reconsidered by players.
  • VonZant
    649 posts Member
    Different does not equal broken. Learn, adapt, try something different.

    Or, dont. TFP and Reaper are still on 90% of the starting lineups in my shard top 50. Stop complaining and learn to learn.
  • TVF
    5739 posts Member
    leef wrote: »
    Are you personally doing worse in fleet than you were doing before?
    That question is probably interchangeable with the question in the poll and you'll get the same results.

    I'm doing the same and I'm intrigued but cautious.

    It's also only been two days.
  • Darthpedro
    1174 posts Member
    I will say this now that it is here it really is 3v3 and not 5v5 starting at 3v3. I have yet to actually see a battle get to 5v5.

    Now as to better or worse it's still too early to say. I'm adapting and still doing well but that's because it will take a bit for the people who weren't using meta fleets that got a huge boost climb to the top so it's still very much wait and see. I am however not pleased by how much the former meta ships (except vader) got nerfed.
  • ScotBott
    146 posts Member
    No. It's terrible.
    Was hitting #1 everyday after working hard and spending money now they just negated all that, this ship Nerf is really really bad...
  • TVF
    5739 posts Member
    Darthpedro wrote: »
    I will say this now that it is here it really is 3v3 and not 5v5 starting at 3v3. I have yet to actually see a battle get to 5v5.

    Now as to better or worse it's still too early to say. I'm adapting and still doing well but that's because it will take a bit for the people who weren't using meta fleets that got a huge boost climb to the top so it's still very much wait and see. I am however not pleased by how much the former meta ships (except vader) got nerfed.

    Biggs?
  • ScotBott wrote: »
    Was hitting #1 everyday after working hard and spending money now they just negated all that, this ship Nerf is really really bad...

    How? If you were running a meta fleet before (and at #1 you probably were), then you've still got the same ships everyone is using now....biggs/vader/tfp/slave1/etc
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  • Darthpedro
    1174 posts Member
    TVF wrote: »
    Darthpedro wrote: »
    I will say this now that it is here it really is 3v3 and not 5v5 starting at 3v3. I have yet to actually see a battle get to 5v5.

    Now as to better or worse it's still too early to say. I'm adapting and still doing well but that's because it will take a bit for the people who weren't using meta fleets that got a huge boost climb to the top so it's still very much wait and see. I am however not pleased by how much the former meta ships (except vader) got nerfed.

    Biggs?

    True I haven't really noticed a change in biggs
  • Iceih_SWG
    225 posts Member
    edited May 25
    Yes, absolutely.
    Darthpedro wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Darthpedro wrote: »
    I will say this now that it is here it really is 3v3 and not 5v5 starting at 3v3. I have yet to actually see a battle get to 5v5.

    Now as to better or worse it's still too early to say. I'm adapting and still doing well but that's because it will take a bit for the people who weren't using meta fleets that got a huge boost climb to the top so it's still very much wait and see. I am however not pleased by how much the former meta ships (except vader) got nerfed.

    Biggs?

    True I haven't really noticed a change in biggs

    No change in his mechanic and reducing the number of starting ships = buff Biggs. Except for that I like the other changes.
  • 3pourr2
    48 posts Member
    No. It's terrible.
    And yet no one has mentioned you cannot do fleet challenges because a bone head dev forgot to reduce the number of required ships from 6 to 5 . So now I need a 5 star capital ship to earn the shards to make it 5 star. AWSOME JOB ON NOT FOLLING THROUGH. And make ship power mean something rather than a rng trash dump
  • 3pourr2 wrote: »
    And make ship power mean something rather than a rng trash dump

    The challenge thing is a real problem (that has several threads about it already - I hope they are working on!), but the above bit is utterly baffling. What is an RNG trash dump?
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  • leef
    10475 posts Member
    3pourr2 wrote: »
    And make ship power mean something rather than a rng trash dump

    What is an RNG trash dump?

    fleet arena, duh :p
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  • leef wrote: »
    3pourr2 wrote: »
    And make ship power mean something rather than a rng trash dump

    What is an RNG trash dump?

    fleet arena, duh :p

    Only when you're losing, eh?
    Otherwise WAI!
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  • Nightlores
    1575 posts Member
    No. It's terrible.
    I thought they wanted to make ships faster, but its so slow now. Also first couple moves are still very important, but with less ships it makes rng even have more impact. Can we revert back to old system please.
  • Degs29
    161 posts Member
    Yes, absolutely.
    leef wrote: »
    Are you personally doing worse in fleet than you were doing before?
    That question is probably interchangeable with the question in the poll and you'll get the same results.

    Which spells out the problem with this "feedback" exactly.
  • dimi4a
    476 posts Member
    No. It's terrible.
    ScotBott wrote: »
    Was hitting #1 everyday after working hard and spending money now they just negated all that, this ship Nerf is really really bad...

    How? If you were running a meta fleet before (and at #1 you probably were), then you've still got the same ships everyone is using now....biggs/vader/tfp/slave1/etc

    Because now that it's down to 3v3 the battles are even more RNG dependent! Before the update if i started a battle bad because of the RNG there was a greater chance to still turn the tides and win, but now after 2.0 if you start a battle bad (RNG) then you are pretty much dead!
  • No. It's terrible.
    I finally managed to break top 20 before the update and a day after the update I cant even break top 40. If I was losing entirely to strategy I'd be ok with that, but even when my Chimera is faster than an opponents they still get to let off "Strategic Dominance" before I do.
    Fleet arena is basically "Whoever lets off Strategic Dominance or Imperial Assault first wins" and now that is never happening in my favor despite stats. Unless there is another factor that I'm unaware of.
  • leef
    10475 posts Member
    Dhuriya24 wrote: »
    I finally managed to break top 20 before the update and a day after the update I cant even break top 40. If I was losing entirely to strategy I'd be ok with that, but even when my Chimera is faster than an opponents they still get to let off "Strategic Dominance" before I do.
    Fleet arena is basically "Whoever lets off Strategic Dominance or Imperial Assault first wins" and now that is never happening in my favor despite stats. Unless there is another factor that I'm unaware of.

    there are ships that can influence the capital ship's TM. For example, ITF gives the ally capital ship 20% TM whenever it evades an attack.
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  • Nikoms565
    9132 posts Member
    edited May 25
    No. It's terrible.
    Degs29 wrote: »
    leef wrote: »
    Are you personally doing worse in fleet than you were doing before?
    That question is probably interchangeable with the question in the poll and you'll get the same results.

    Which spells out the problem with this "feedback" exactly.

    Except that some of us are doing just as well if not better than before - but still don't enjoy the changes to the way it plays.

    I used to have to fight back up from the 30s and 40s to get into the top 10. Since the update I haven't fallen lower than 24. Whether that means my team is that awesome on defense or that people simply aren't playing - I have no idea.

    I do know that I don't need to refresh to hit top 10, which is good, because I have no interest in playing ships more than I absolutely feel is necessary since the update.

    My feedback is not results based - it's experience based, because some of us actually enjoy playing the game.
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  • leef
    10475 posts Member
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Degs29 wrote: »
    leef wrote: »
    Are you personally doing worse in fleet than you were doing before?
    That question is probably interchangeable with the question in the poll and you'll get the same results.

    Which spells out the problem with this "feedback" exactly.

    Except that some of us are doing just as well if not better than before - but still don't enjoy the changes to the way it plays.

    I used to have to fight back up from the 30s and 40s to get into the top 10. Since the update I haven't fallen lower than 24. Whether that means my team is that awesome on defense or that people simply aren't playing - I have no idea.

    I do know that I don't need to refresh to hit top 10, which is good, because I have no interest in playing ships more than I absolutely feel is necessary since the update.

    So you're saying you've come to realize you actually do like the update? =D
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  • Nikoms565
    9132 posts Member
    edited May 26
    No. It's terrible.
    leef wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Degs29 wrote: »
    leef wrote: »
    Are you personally doing worse in fleet than you were doing before?
    That question is probably interchangeable with the question in the poll and you'll get the same results.

    Which spells out the problem with this "feedback" exactly.

    Except that some of us are doing just as well if not better than before - but still don't enjoy the changes to the way it plays.

    I used to have to fight back up from the 30s and 40s to get into the top 10. Since the update I haven't fallen lower than 24. Whether that means my team is that awesome on defense or that people simply aren't playing - I have no idea.

    I do know that I don't need to refresh to hit top 10, which is good, because I have no interest in playing ships more than I absolutely feel is necessary since the update.

    So you're saying you've come to realize you actually do like the update? =D

    Lol. No - because I actually enjoyed playing fleet arena battles before the update. I didn't start playing two and a half years ago to collect pixel prizes. Like most people here, I started (and continue) to play because I wanted to play a Star Wars game with a little thought, strategy that was a fun way to spend time. Ship arena simply isn't as fun to play for me now.

    That's part of the point. ;)
    Post edited by Nikoms565 on
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  • TVF
    5739 posts Member
    I like this update. There's more of an element of danger in these fights. Before I knew exactly what was going to happen, now I don't. And I had to think a bit more about which ship to bring in.

    And I was finishing first both before and after, so nothing to do with that. I even fell farther today than ever before. That's ok.
  • Nikoms565
    9132 posts Member
    No. It's terrible.
    TVF wrote: »
    I like this update. There's more of an element of danger in these fights. Before I knew exactly what was going to happen, now I don't.
    You do realize that this is basically another way of saying "before the was more strategy and now it's more random" right? I guess if "danger" of losing to randomness is your preference, that's cool. To each his own.

    I don't recall more randomness being one of CG's goals for ships 2.0 - but I agree, they certainly achieved that. However, I don't believe many people were begging for more rng and less predictability in fleet battles.

    I am going to continue to give it a try, as it appears that, for whatever reason, CG has decided to go the "more random danger/less predictable" route with fleet (as opposed to what the majority of players actually asked for). So I guess we're going to be stuck with this terrible unpredictable, rng "danger" -fest for a while.


    In game name: Lucas Gregory - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie

    In game guild: DeathStarVentDesigners - DVD for short.
    I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
    *This space left intentionally blank*
  • TVF
    5739 posts Member
    No it doesn't mean it's random, it means I haven't figured out the strategy yet. You also cut out my next sentence, which added strategy and reduced RNG. But that's ok, I know that Ships 2.0 makes you grouchy. You do you.
  • dimi4a
    476 posts Member
    No. It's terrible.
    TVF wrote: »
    No it doesn't mean it's random, it means I haven't figured out the strategy yet. You also cut out my next sentence, which added strategy and reduced RNG. But that's ok, I know that Ships 2.0 makes you grouchy. You do you.

    Funny enough ships 2.0 achieved just that - more RNG and less strategy and my 50+ battles and numerous ship combos so far have proven that!
  • leef
    10475 posts Member
    dimi4a wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    No it doesn't mean it's random, it means I haven't figured out the strategy yet. You also cut out my next sentence, which added strategy and reduced RNG. But that's ok, I know that Ships 2.0 makes you grouchy. You do you.

    Funny enough ships 2.0 achieved just that - more RNG and less strategy and my 50+ battles and numerous ship combos so far have proven that!

    You've done 50+ battles after the update?! Dang!
    my win/loss ratio is 8/2, seems about the same as before. Not for top ranks though, around ~75 orso.
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  • dimi4a
    476 posts Member
    No. It's terrible.
    leef wrote: »
    dimi4a wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    No it doesn't mean it's random, it means I haven't figured out the strategy yet. You also cut out my next sentence, which added strategy and reduced RNG. But that's ok, I know that Ships 2.0 makes you grouchy. You do you.

    Funny enough ships 2.0 achieved just that - more RNG and less strategy and my 50+ battles and numerous ship combos so far have proven that!

    You've done 50+ battles after the update?! Dang!
    my win/loss ratio is 8/2, seems about the same as before. Not for top ranks though, around ~75 orso.

    Well before the update my tactics were working fairly good and #1 place was mine every day, now tactics don't have much of a success - my starting trio: TIE Adv., Biggs, ITF with Slave, Ghost and Scimitar in reserve!
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