Why am I getting 3rd or worse??

joedaddy

I keep being the 1st to complete the HERIOC rancor.
After waiting for an hour to collect, I keep getting 3rd or worse!!

Why am I getting robbed. I have the same amount of points as others who finish AFTER me.

What's up with this??
Not fair to always finish 1st and get lousy rewards. I didn't beef up my teams to get robbed....

Kyno

Rankings for the same score are selected by RNG.

joedaddy

That needs to be changed or I will always lose.. This game is getting worse by the day!!
Can they not keep THIER hands off of crap that working fine???

Trystan_Spyder

If 15 people solo it, you could theoretically get 15th.

Damodamo

@Trystan_Spyder you do know this isn’t a new thing don’t you?

My guild I solo and regularly end up at place 20 or above

TVF

joedaddy wrote: »

That needs to be changed or I will always lose.. This game is getting worse by the day!!
Can they not keep THIER hands off of **** that working fine???

It's been this way for a while. What would you suggest?

Is it fair that you are first every time if you score the same as a bunch of other people?

This is my favorite complaint of the day so far.

Damodamo

Careful @TVF it will be your fault ina minite

Waqui

joedaddy wrote: »

That needs to be changed or I will always lose.. This game is getting worse by the day!!
Can they not keep THIER hands off of **** that working fine???

Stop being silly. You don't always loose. In case of ties your order/rank is randomly assigned. Some times you win, some times you loose. If you always won and took 1st, then it means your guild mates never took first. That's not fair to them, is it?

Rpaulsen310

To be honest, I look at where I am in the rankings at the end of the join period. If there are 10 guildmates ranked ahead of me that can solo it, I won't waste the effort. If I'm close to the top of the rankings then I'll take the time to run the raid and get a better spot. I'm hardly ever in the first spot so I don't worry about rank 1.

Riegorn

The way it is right now is probably the best way it can be, if it would who finish first, it would make it pointless competition decided by few seconds, you cant give everyone top rewards, because it would too easily exploitable, just hope rng is in your favor. Rewards for first are not that better and usually just extra challenge stuff. You get few more shards for han, but if you cna solo it, you probably already have him

TVF

It used to be assigned not randomly....player ID or something like that. Which was terrible, because if your number was 40 and everyone could solo you would finish 40th every time. Terrible.

TVF

Rpaulsen310 wrote: »

To be honest, I look at where I am in the rankings at the end of the join period. If there are 10 guildmates ranked ahead of me that can solo it, I won't waste the effort. If I'm close to the top of the rankings then I'll take the time to run the raid and get a better spot. I'm hardly ever in the first spot so I don't worry about rank 1.

I assume you aren't able to solo? If you can it's like two extra button pushes.

Kyno

joedaddy wrote: »

That needs to be changed or I will always lose.. This game is getting worse by the day!!
Can they not keep THIER hands off of **** that working fine???

Before they fixed this a while ago, it was a set order so no matter how quickly you did it or how upgraded your team was, the order for people who soloed was fixed.

Are you saying that was working fine? Because that was the fix they implemented a long time ago.

Rpaulsen310

TVF wrote: »

I assume you aren't able to solo? If you can it's like two extra button pushes.

I can solo, it's not worth the effort (for me) for essentially the same loot box

TVF

Lol, ok.

I hope you don't bother simming GW either.

Vorgen

Kyno wrote: »

joedaddy wrote: »

That needs to be changed or I will always lose.. This game is getting worse by the day!!
Can they not keep THIER hands off of **** that working fine???

Before they fixed this a while ago, it was a set order so no matter how quickly you did it or how upgraded your team was, the order for people who soloed was fixed.

Are you saying that was working fine? Because that was the fix they implemented a long time ago.

I’m sure it would have been fine if his player ID would have him ranked 1st every time. Otherwise, how dare you rob me of my loot!!!

Rpaulsen310

TVF wrote: »

Lol, ok.

I hope you don't bother simming GW either.

Not sure why you care whether I can solo the pit raid or choose to sim GW. I do whatever I feel like doing in the time frame I have available.

Besides, the point I was trying to make was that you can get a pretty good idea of where you'll end up by reviewing your position in the join list vs. the others in your guild that can also solo the raid.

TVF

Rpaulsen310 wrote: »

TVF wrote: »

Lol, ok.

I hope you don't bother simming GW either.

Not sure why you care whether I can solo the pit raid or choose to sim GW. I do whatever I feel like doing in the time frame I have available.

Besides, the point I was trying to make was that you can get a pretty good idea of where you'll end up by reviewing your position in the join list vs. the others in your guild that can also solo the raid.

I don't care, I just think it's funny in a game of pushing buttons you wouldn't push a couple more. Moving on.

And yes your point there is accurate and I do the same (the checking position part only - I still auto it regardless).

Yerff_Caasi

joedaddy wrote: »

That needs to be changed or I will always lose.. This game is getting worse by the day!!
Can they not keep THIER hands off of **** that working fine???

Ok, let's do some math here. You're finishing first. Two other people are tying with you. Who gets 1st is decided by RNG. So you will get first roughly 33% of the time. You will NOT "always lose."

If you are indeed always losing, you should submit a bug report.

Poxx

It's far better than it used to b. If 20 ppl all solo it, they r randomized 1-20. It used to b based alphabetically by player ID which had the same ppl always top 3 regardless when they finished. It's far better now.

LynnYoda

who cares most of the time you get better rewards for ranking 50th than you do for 1st place, the only main benefit is han solo shards tbh

Frodoking

Seems like a good place to implement the same reward system as the daily changing guild activities where a tie in number of, say, light side energy spent would give both players the same higher rank.

GhostTruckin

Frodoking wrote: »

Seems like a good place to implement the same reward system as the daily changing guild activities where a tie in number of, say, light side energy spent would give both players the same higher rank.

No, Not at all, that would be horrible ,

Nikoms565

The current system is far better than it used to be and better than most other suggestions I've read since.

TVF

The only correct solution is to give me first every time.

jejuzang

Or to give the rankings in order of those that completed it. So the first to solo gets first. Second gets second, etc, etc.

TVF

jejuzang wrote: »

Or to give the rankings in order of those that completed it. So the first to solo gets first. Second gets second, etc, etc.

GhostTruckin wrote: »

Frodoking wrote: »

Seems like a good place to implement the same reward system as the daily changing guild activities where a tie in number of, say, light side energy spent would give both players the same higher rank.

No, Not at all, that would be horrible ,

Waqui

jejuzang wrote: »

Or to give the rankings in order of those that completed it. So the first to solo gets first. Second gets second, etc, etc.

They all contributed exactly the same towards killing the Rancor. Finishing your run first doesn't change one bit on the end—result. Stop being silly.

Waqui

Frodoking wrote: »

Seems like a good place to implement the same reward system as the daily changing guild activities where a tie in number of, say, light side energy spent would give both players the same higher rank.

That's not how it works with daily guild activities. Did you never notice that the expected rewards of the previously higher ranked player also can decrease?

joedaddy

We need as many people as possible to comment on this problem. It has gone on way to long.
People who finish first or tie in points should not be getting robbed of first place rewards!!
I know that they are using random number generators to decide awards but this is NOT fair to those who either finish first or those that tie with most points.
A fairer system would be to give everyone in THeSE groups the first place rewards. After all your not " giving the store away "
So if your also in this position post your comments please.
That's the only way to get their attention is if everyone let's them know how unfair it is for all of us in this situation.

Thanks everyone.

joedaddy

Yerff_Caasi wrote: »

joedaddy wrote: »

That needs to be changed or I will always lose.. This game is getting worse by the day!!
Can they not keep THIER hands off of **** that working fine???

Ok, let's do some math here. You're finishing first. Two other people are tying with you. Who gets 1st is decided by RNG. So you will get first roughly 33% of the time. You will NOT "always lose."

If you are indeed always losing, you should submit a bug report.

Did that and got nothing in response. Totally ignored me.