Oops, meant to also add 5% TM to NS allies for each plague dispelled.
I left out that piece of info I meant to include, and don’t want to edit because I think that’s what caused problems last time and sent it to moderation.
Me and a load of guild mates feel like there is something broken with nightsister acolyte I’m regards to her %chance to stealth.
70% chance to stealth and a lot of us are having her take 4 turns and not stealth once, one of them 4 attacks the 70% chance to stealth should be winning.
It isn’t just me plenty are having it happen in my guild aswell.
Me and a load of guild mates feel like there is something broken with nightsister acolyte I’m regards to her %chance to stealth.
70% chance to stealth and a lot of us are having her take 4 turns and not stealth once, one of them 4 attacks the 70% chance to stealth should be winning.
It isn’t just me plenty are having it happen in my guild aswell.
Don't make things so overly complicated... If you want to "fix" zombie strats. Just reduce Zombie's revive mechanic to a 90% chance of revive vs current 100%. Can sta
That’s a huge nerf to zombie and is a major slap in the face to everyone who invested in her. If you think yesterday was brutal here, you could double that if they did the above.
Me and a load of guild mates feel like there is something broken with nightsister acolyte I’m regards to her %chance to stealth.
70% chance to stealth and a lot of us are having her take 4 turns and not stealth once, one of them 4 attacks the 70% chance to stealth should be winning.
It isn’t just me plenty are having it happen in my guild aswell.
Give her potency
Does potency make a difference I thought it was just a 70% straight chance and potency shouldn’t make a difference?
Me and a load of guild mates feel like there is something broken with nightsister acolyte I’m regards to her %chance to stealth.
70% chance to stealth and a lot of us are having her take 4 turns and not stealth once, one of them 4 attacks the 70% chance to stealth should be winning.
It isn’t just me plenty are having it happen in my guild aswell.
Give her potency
Does potency make a difference I thought it was just a 70% straight chance and potency shouldn’t make a difference?
I’m assuming it’s a troll post. Potency is worthless for Acolyte under Ventress lead. She inflicts no debuffs and the TM reduction can’t be resisted.
Me and a load of guild mates feel like there is something broken with nightsister acolyte I’m regards to her %chance to stealth.
70% chance to stealth and a lot of us are having her take 4 turns and not stealth once, one of them 4 attacks the 70% chance to stealth should be winning.
It isn’t just me plenty are having it happen in my guild aswell.
Give her potency
Does potency make a difference I thought it was just a 70% straight chance and potency shouldn’t make a difference?
I’m assuming it’s a troll post. Potency is worthless for Acolyte under Ventress lead. She inflicts no debuffs and the TM reduction can’t be resisted.
Thought so, potency shouldn’t make a difference to the miraculous 70% chance to stealth that she never seems to manage.
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Let's cool it with the vitriol - there's room for criticism and frustration, but it needs to be civil, and appropriate.
I wholeheartedly agree with the spirit of what you're saying... but I am truly concerned of the implications of some of your guidelines.
Where can we discuss moderation?
How can a forum account be linked to a gaming account? Swgoh profiles are public, someone could just paste a link into their signature, bully on the forums under the name of another player, and get this other player in trouble. This sounds... disturbing. But I suppose, as you said, this isn't the place for that discussion.
why should players pay for DEVs mistakes? They had to test the raid better. First - exposes, second - STHan, than bonds, its nerf after nerf after nerf, and it wont stop, as i see. WHy? why do we have to pay for your mistakes?
We’re the game testers. Have you not been getting yr paycheck?
How about just confess you folks at EA/CG don’t know how to properly code the game and make toons that work correct mechanically from the start of release???
First of all Nightsisters got murdered in arena thanks to the Vader/Palpatene meta....now the only part of the game they are extremely valuable at is getting nerfed as well???
Geez man...do you developers understand the amount of time it takes to G12 four to five toons and save up 3-4 zetas in order to make that team a force to be reckoned with???
Talk about lame....I payed to get my sisters geared and 7*...and f2p folks used up a lot of time and materials as well.
Whatever it’s yall game..do what y’all want. I haven’t spent money in months and dumb changes like this is the reason why!!
Ea /cg are clearly **** that people have got 7* traya already and are going to screw everyone else, they need to realise that people will stop playing the game and take their money elsewhere. One member in my guild has already received a refund yesterday but it seems ea aren't being as friendly today.
"The reason we responded so quickly on this issue is because we didn't want players to begin to make long term investment decisions around (player ownable) Darth Traya"
Who are the people who are getting 7* Darth Traya and not investing in her? I understand in terms of as far as the raid goes, but I don't think anyone getting her planned not to invest in her for other game areas, so this seems dubious as a reason at best. It also feels like it could have been resolved by nerfing Isolate specific to the raid only - you have a data point now about how Health Steal affects things, so you should have been able to block the loop in the future - saying you want to nerf a bunch of stuff for potentially-possible-maybe-never-happening is also somewhat ludicrous.
What you have in effect done is say hey, if you want to use what we may possibly consider an exploit, better use it in the first few months until we can be bothered to mess you all up. How can we trust any toon or faction released in order to spend money on it. I was considering my first potential 7* from crystals investment into Bastilla, but what's my incentive to do so, as after I've spent the money you could possibly make her useless at worse, or less useful at best.
All this is doing is creating a massive gap between the folks that already have Traya and those that don't. They have her, but agree that in the spirit of not making certain guild mates being able to vastly out class others a nerf to isolate/health steal (or even disallowing her from the raid, she's useful everywhere else!). But to generally mess with NS so quickly, so haphazardly (that it sounds like you even broke the raid in general for healthing) and so against the fan base is shocking.
This game isn't free-to-play for everyone, some folks have invested significant amounts of hard earned money in order to become more useful to their guilds and to themselves in game - this hasn't even been vaguely addressed by you guys.
I think a little weekend damage control is in order @CG_TopHat and @CG_Carrie - we've all had to have a weekend conference call, fire up the laptop and solve issues before. This appears to be one of those times. At the very least, you could pull the hotfix and announce an actually decent worded set of 'upcoming fixes or adjustments' that have actually seemingly had some thought (and maybe this little thing called testing) involved. Maybe set a timeline to let folks know something is coming, pushing out broken code on a Friday is an amateur move.
I think I speak for my whole guild at TGY with regards to this post. Possibly one or two others out there that maybe don't speak up.
Please fix this mess (and it is a mess) whilst you still can. The community in general can get behind a well worded apology and some contriteness.
One of my guildies was able to receive a partial refund from Google Play. This is of course second-hand information, so take it with a grain of salt. So that route may work for players who are unsatisfied. Not posting this to inspire hate, but to point people in a good direction for conflict resolution.
Let’s be honest... instead of rushing out a buggy fix on Friday evening (and really, there’s a history of unintended bugs in fixes so let’s not pretend this is a one-off) you could have easily made a post and even sent an in-game message stating that you’d be making a fix on Monday. Is a weekend of “critolyte” really worse than a weekend (and beyond) of ill will and future mistrust of the devs and their potential for ruining toons people have worked hard to build up? If you couldn’t figure this issue out in the months after the raid launched, why roll out a fix in a matter of hours?
Lower NS zombie’s health, protection, and defense, then add a second unique that says:
If zombie didn’t die within her past two turns, all nightsister allies gain 5% turn meter and gain 5% offense (stacking) until the end of the encounter. If she did die within her past two turns, all nightsister allies lose 3% offense and critical chance (stacking). These effects take place at the beginning of each of her turns.
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I left out that piece of info I meant to include, and don’t want to edit because I think that’s what caused problems last time and sent it to moderation.
70% chance to stealth and a lot of us are having her take 4 turns and not stealth once, one of them 4 attacks the 70% chance to stealth should be winning.
It isn’t just me plenty are having it happen in my guild aswell.
That’s a huge nerf to zombie and is a major slap in the face to everyone who invested in her. If you think yesterday was brutal here, you could double that if they did the above.
...you got a variety of gears in pit and aat raids instead of the same few over and over and over?
...you could use omegas on OMEGA abilities?
...purple gears had a 33% drop rate?
...this game wasn't a 2nd job?
...you could master a raid so it wasn't a chore?
...you fould fill all tb platoons without relying on whales to immediately max brand new pay toons?
...you could use gear 8-9 pieces on gears 8 and 9?
'member? You 'member.
Does potency make a difference I thought it was just a 70% straight chance and potency shouldn’t make a difference?
Maybe for the AI for the player to use her she never stealths takes 5 turns on Tb to get her to stealth with a 70% chance it shouldn’t take 5 turns
I’m assuming it’s a troll post. Potency is worthless for Acolyte under Ventress lead. She inflicts no debuffs and the TM reduction can’t be resisted.
Thought so, potency shouldn’t make a difference to the miraculous 70% chance to stealth that she never seems to manage.
I wholeheartedly agree with the spirit of what you're saying... but I am truly concerned of the implications of some of your guidelines.
Where can we discuss moderation?
How can a forum account be linked to a gaming account? Swgoh profiles are public, someone could just paste a link into their signature, bully on the forums under the name of another player, and get this other player in trouble. This sounds... disturbing. But I suppose, as you said, this isn't the place for that discussion.
We’re the game testers. Have you not been getting yr paycheck?
How about just confess you folks at EA/CG don’t know how to properly code the game and make toons that work correct mechanically from the start of release???
First of all Nightsisters got murdered in arena thanks to the Vader/Palpatene meta....now the only part of the game they are extremely valuable at is getting nerfed as well???
Geez man...do you developers understand the amount of time it takes to G12 four to five toons and save up 3-4 zetas in order to make that team a force to be reckoned with???
Talk about lame....I payed to get my sisters geared and 7*...and f2p folks used up a lot of time and materials as well.
Whatever it’s yall game..do what y’all want. I haven’t spent money in months and dumb changes like this is the reason why!!
To think I did eyeball this game back when it was released.
True, the AI does cheat it's pants off after all.
Who are the people who are getting 7* Darth Traya and not investing in her? I understand in terms of as far as the raid goes, but I don't think anyone getting her planned not to invest in her for other game areas, so this seems dubious as a reason at best. It also feels like it could have been resolved by nerfing Isolate specific to the raid only - you have a data point now about how Health Steal affects things, so you should have been able to block the loop in the future - saying you want to nerf a bunch of stuff for potentially-possible-maybe-never-happening is also somewhat ludicrous.
What you have in effect done is say hey, if you want to use what we may possibly consider an exploit, better use it in the first few months until we can be bothered to mess you all up. How can we trust any toon or faction released in order to spend money on it. I was considering my first potential 7* from crystals investment into Bastilla, but what's my incentive to do so, as after I've spent the money you could possibly make her useless at worse, or less useful at best.
All this is doing is creating a massive gap between the folks that already have Traya and those that don't. They have her, but agree that in the spirit of not making certain guild mates being able to vastly out class others a nerf to isolate/health steal (or even disallowing her from the raid, she's useful everywhere else!). But to generally mess with NS so quickly, so haphazardly (that it sounds like you even broke the raid in general for healthing) and so against the fan base is shocking.
This game isn't free-to-play for everyone, some folks have invested significant amounts of hard earned money in order to become more useful to their guilds and to themselves in game - this hasn't even been vaguely addressed by you guys.
I think a little weekend damage control is in order @CG_TopHat and @CG_Carrie - we've all had to have a weekend conference call, fire up the laptop and solve issues before. This appears to be one of those times. At the very least, you could pull the hotfix and announce an actually decent worded set of 'upcoming fixes or adjustments' that have actually seemingly had some thought (and maybe this little thing called testing) involved. Maybe set a timeline to let folks know something is coming, pushing out broken code on a Friday is an amateur move.
I think I speak for my whole guild at TGY with regards to this post. Possibly one or two others out there that maybe don't speak up.
Please fix this mess (and it is a mess) whilst you still can. The community in general can get behind a well worded apology and some contriteness.
Cheers,
Cuzzins
If zombie didn’t die within her past two turns, all nightsister allies gain 5% turn meter and gain 5% offense (stacking) until the end of the encounter. If she did die within her past two turns, all nightsister allies lose 3% offense and critical chance (stacking). These effects take place at the beginning of each of her turns.
Have we been playing the same game?