Jedi tactics "Run in circles 'til the timer runs out"
August 6, 2018 4:33PM
edited August 2018
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With few exceptions, why are the majority of Jedi tactics in game defensive? And it's not just SWGOH, pretty much every SW game I play or have played, Jedi are on the low end of the damage spectrum. I'm really starting to think there is some rule when a company makes a SW game that Jedi must be whimps. I mean come on... Mace Windu, leader of the Jedi Council, is possibly the most useless of the lot.
/rant off
With few exceptions, why are the majority of Jedi tactics in game defensive? And it's not just SWGOH, pretty much every SW game I play or have played, Jedi are on the low end of the damage spectrum. I'm really starting to think there is some rule when a company makes a SW game that Jedi must be whimps. I mean come on... Mace Windu, leader of the Jedi Council, is possibly the most useless of the lot.
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This is true, I just wonder why the existing Jedi, are so .. bleh
I just faced a Bastilla, Ezra, GMY. hGMY, Old Ben, etc.. It was not a strong team on offense. But very capable of lasting until the timer expires. I guess this is what some like, but my MMO training has me wanting more Offense. I'm a warrior, not a whimp.. To be fair, power creep is not really valid, Jedi have been underpowered since launch.
For a game intended on diversity, they do a swell job of moving further and further from that prime directive with each and every action they take.
Wonder how long until the Jedi equiv. of SRT is released to make Traya useless? It'll happen, bank on it.
How can all toons be useful? Would be nice, but..?
It was suggested elsewhere that "We wrongly assume those creating these games like Jedi, despise the Sith. That they choose good over evil. This is naïve to say the least. Most SW games show quite the opposite. Players choose to play Dark Side more then Light. So the balance is skewed in their favor, to appease the larger population of players". I have to agree here, when SWTOR launched, the devs admitted they were really surprised to see probably 90% or more players chose Dark Side. PVP was Sith vs Sith for months lol
Anakin Skywalker..
This...
And how realistic do you want it to be? I mean, Biggs is one of the best pilots in the game- but he dies after his first two lines in the movie. Genosians have a good worth in fleet battles, but they get completely erraticated by Vader.
The game works on a Rock-Paper-Scissors scheme with a side of Human Foot-Nuclear Bomb-Cockroach.
I do wish the jedis had a revamp- but not by much. I think we will get what we seek when we get Revan
I think Jedi are usually seen as 'wimps' compared to the Sith because developers try to be true to their ideologies, Jedi are supposed to be more on the defensive side and Sith wield the awesome Force Powers without holding anything back
In KOTOR, that means Light Side got buffs while Dark Side got attacks. Either way the game was easy, but what seems cooler, spending three turns waving your hand so you can murder the enemy with your lightsaber in a single turn, or just blasting lighting and literal death at them
In TOR, side meant little difference, but Dark Side usually looks and sounds cooler. Example- Telekenetic Wave versus a Lightning Attack. Bounty Hunter rockets and flamethrower versus Trooper grenade and like... ion caster or something
I think most games (at least the ones I've played) do a good job of balancing the two sides/groups, even though it usually looks like Dark Side are better fighters at first approach
This game is a bit of an exception because who's dominant is constantly changing, so everyone's gonna get the short end of the stick sometime
Hence why I started with "With few exceptions,"
That being said I almost timed out against a bastilla because hoda kept healing GK, and I killed their only damage dealer(GMY).. I think a new Jedi attacker is needed badly.
The Jedi being highly defensive is fine in arena, but hinders them outside pvp (ok Player vs AI but that is another rant, for another time lol) and makes them practically useless elsewhere. I suppose it could be said PVP ruins yet another game because of "balance" issues.
In the part ii of that episode- anakin remind Ashoka that the Jedi aren’t soldiers, they are peace keepers. Better on the defensive.
I dont see what popularity has to do anything with dmg. Its only logical that the sith is more popular - remember this is fantasy, a game, we want to do things that we cant do irl. You can act like a jedi and be a full member of the society (be good to others, seek peace, help the poor..), but you cant really conquer planets and destroy everything, so you rather do it in the game.
I mean c'mon, the Jedi order is a bit too much like the catholic church.
If they weren't that strict in their stewpid believes, the mightiest Jedi to ever have lived wouldn't have betrayed them.
And he wouldn't have become Darth Vader.
And don't forget they froze out Ahsoka as well with their middle age thinking and believes.
The only Jedi who really got it was Qui Gon Jinn.
Most of our Jedi are e1-6. One topic yoda himself spoke about was the diminishing power of the Jedi. Not in the way of less jedi but as if something was dampening their powers. They could not even see order 66 being issued. Most of the Jedi we have are suspect due to this effect. It is widely accepted palpatine used some type of meditation or sith knowledge to accomplish this.
Non e1 -6 jedi are fairly powerful. Ezra Batista Kanan..jolie is a healer so he does not count. This game hates healers. As more none1-6 jedi are released the overall power of the jedi faction will increase byx factors.
To prove my point...do you think yoda could defeat revan? Hell yoda could not defeat palpatine. The power level of jedi were weakest during e1-6