If you look into a shard chat you'll realize how broken arena is!
I can't describe how bad it is in my shard chats. People get so toxic over others trying to do better for themselves. Arena is nothing but cooperation at the top spots with alot of hate for those who interfere.
I want to see the whole system being reworked so that people's payout depends on individual performance and not social relations... I'm tired of people securing payouts that they don't deserve while others who do deserve it, they are left out because they simply aren't part of the group.
Arena has become a matter of which group you belong to. I suggest that we have a system that's independent of time zones and specific people. I want something that's more dynamic, where enemies are being recycled and you are being rewarded on individual performance day to day. Only this way we'll have a fair and incentivizing system to keep getting better.
I want to see the whole system being reworked so that people's payout depends on individual performance and not social relations... I'm tired of people securing payouts that they don't deserve while others who do deserve it, they are left out because they simply aren't part of the group.
Arena has become a matter of which group you belong to. I suggest that we have a system that's independent of time zones and specific people. I want something that's more dynamic, where enemies are being recycled and you are being rewarded on individual performance day to day. Only this way we'll have a fair and incentivizing system to keep getting better.
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I never saw this hate, you describe, in any of shard chats I know.
If you rank 1st at payout, you deserve the rewards for first place. That's all that counts. The arena is fair in this way. The payout system doesn't know about shard chats. All it knows is your rank.
Hate towards other who are trying to sneak in and grab the payout
And no, not everyone who reaches 1st because their buddies are sniping everyone else, deserves to get 1st
I guess the real question is, should they even exist?
This. they are on 3rd party apps and while many people have tried there have not been any real suggestions that actually solve the problem, or dont hurt many more than it helps.
Shard chat is no different. It's ppl that work together for the maximum rewards for minimum time.
Makes perfect sense. My shard chat isn't hostile in the least. An occasional "Hey, WTH" ? But that's about it.
Lol well, . . Your pics are poor, the guess is you are using sub par squads to attack with, and as for your wild claims of weighted rng towards certain squads , that’s a rather preposterous asertation.
Just 2ant to add, p2p will almost always have better mods, that can make a difference. It's a pretty big difference between making the best set you can to get the speed you want and making the right set and primaries for a squad and having it be at arena speed.
3rd Party, not only (you dont need discord)
click me: new-chat-ruined-arena
I never said only, and in game chat has not been around as long as the game. The new chat didnt help or hurt the situation, it's just another way to accomplish the same thing.
I completely understand your point. But I don’t think a lot of people who share your view understand how some people view arena. It’s adverised as PVP, and some people want it to be competitive.
To illustrate the point, let’s imagine this was Battlefront or Call of Duty or something. Shard chats to rotate payout would be kind of like a group in FFA mode rotating who gets the most kills to win the match and everybody working together to help everyone complete match objectives or milestones, even though it’s designed to be an individual mode. Then a new person comes in and wants to actually play and compete and everyone turns and gangs up on him, and so he has virtually no chance of winning. It’s either join and work together to complete milestones and level up and unlock rewards or get the snot beat out of you until you give up.
I absolutely understand how some people don’t want to compete and just want to get the best rewards. It’s not a game mode, it’s a salary mode. But for some reason a large chunk of these people are somehow amazed when others show up and actually want to play a competitive game.
Then CG should make it a competitive mode. As it is, with every person in the top 50 (or more) able to win every time on offense and therefore lose every time on defense is just a time sink.
I understand people want a competitive game mode. Getting rid of shard chats doesn't completely do this though. Live PVP, tuneable AI, and defensive bonuses/skills are some ways to make it more competitive. I wouldn't expect any of these any time soon.
The terrible defense certainly hampers the competitive part of the mode. But shard chat are it’s biggest downfall. I hate the mode now. I’m fine being in a chat and easily taking 1 everyday and moving along. I didn’t used to be that way. I used to be super competitive, and the battle for #1 every day before arena chats was the highlight of the game. That was absolutely my peak enjoyment for SWGOH, and it’s definitely what got me hooked. Arena was why I farmed everything else. That was the end goal, to get #1 in arena. Doing that was winning the game for the day. At that time I would have rather spent 800 crystals to get 1st than 0 crystals to get 2nd. I wanted to win, and crystals were there to help me win. The arena game of chicken had its frustrations, but overall it was still fun.
Arena isn’t fun anymore. It might as well be GW now. It’s a chore mode. There’s no skill, and no reward for developing better characters. It’s literally like a job, I just do it to collect the salary.
I’ve always thought that was the point of the game. To get together and set things up so everyone gets a good payout...I just don’t understand it. It’s like being in a real war and learning there’s a huge supply depot that was abandoned and calling all your enemies to see who needs it more. Ok, you take it enemy and use it to help supply your army that ultimately I’ll have to fight someday. Again, doesn’t make sense.
Anyway, nothing to be done about it so whatever. Just play and do the best ya can.
Of course they fight to secure 1st rank for themselves. What did you expect? But still, I haven't seen any hate as you describe it.
They reached first place. Of course they deserve the prize. You may feel that your team is stronger than theirs, but apparently you loose more battles. Arena is not about how good your team is — it's about actually reaching high ranks.
In reality, most shard chats are accommodating to various degrees and the "protection" they provide, at least as I've seen it (and I've been in three for squad), is to protect people with known payouts against random climbers who "just love to compete", but really just want to climb whenever they want to climb irrespective of other's payouts. At least, the only people I've ever seen "targeted" are those that climb inconsistently and at multiple times throughout the day.
Really, they're just a common courtesy to make life with GoH a bit easier.