Is there any f2p crystal gaining method anymore?
September 12, 2018 6:04AM
edited September 2018
Hello, before i start no i dont want any of the generic answers from any moderators so if you want to start writing please dont.
I just realized how behind we f2p people are and no i dont mean the long grind thats part of the game and is accepted, but on a day to day basis.
Now the only decent chance to earn crystals is fleet arena because squad arena is ruled by shard chat and whales. Now that you released the hounds tooth and now cad banes ship, you basically screwed over everyone who spent months into gearing and farming the 3 geos and trying to find the best reinforcement setup for them. The geo characters are useless outside of fleet arena so for those who farmed them its lost investment, what people will do is spend money on fleet instantly get to top ranks and get locked there because of shard chats.
Technically speaking, i currently farm the 2 vets with 3 refresh a day and get roughly 5-10 shards per day. Without a good fleet rank which was till now obtainable as f2p this would be impossible. We try so hard to prepare for the sith raid but how? We spent a huge amount on a good fleet rank so we can farm with refreshes but if thats taken away how long will it take to farm out teams?6 months per character so 2 years per team because of all the single 20 energy node farm?
It would be time to rethink your strategy as far as the concept of the game which you destroy with rapid pace.
I just realized how behind we f2p people are and no i dont mean the long grind thats part of the game and is accepted, but on a day to day basis.
Now the only decent chance to earn crystals is fleet arena because squad arena is ruled by shard chat and whales. Now that you released the hounds tooth and now cad banes ship, you basically screwed over everyone who spent months into gearing and farming the 3 geos and trying to find the best reinforcement setup for them. The geo characters are useless outside of fleet arena so for those who farmed them its lost investment, what people will do is spend money on fleet instantly get to top ranks and get locked there because of shard chats.
Technically speaking, i currently farm the 2 vets with 3 refresh a day and get roughly 5-10 shards per day. Without a good fleet rank which was till now obtainable as f2p this would be impossible. We try so hard to prepare for the sith raid but how? We spent a huge amount on a good fleet rank so we can farm with refreshes but if thats taken away how long will it take to farm out teams?6 months per character so 2 years per team because of all the single 20 energy node farm?
It would be time to rethink your strategy as far as the concept of the game which you destroy with rapid pace.
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Fleet META had been stale for ages until the large update (ships 2.0). I see no problem with changing METAs in fleet arena as well.
F2p players can still rank 1st in squad arena and fleet arena regularly. You yourself may not be able to, but then that's not because you are f2p.
Your calculations are quite a bit off. You can farm several characters at the same time. Claiming that it takes 2 years to farm a new team is silly.
But agree with you. You should rethink your strategy, if you can't ear sufficient amount crystals.
EDIT: I’m over 2 million GP and have JTR, CLS, and Thrawn. I rank between 80 and 150 in arena and hover 30-35 in fleet arena.
Personally, I currently have 78k crystals hoarded, and all of it is free, collected purely from in game earnings.
why?
@Boov
So that I can have the resources to buy the next big Arena Meta Marquee character if I want to. The key to staying relevant in Squad Arena is to hoard resources and then show hand every few meta. If you always start farming for the most current meta, you'll be irrelevant by the time you finish farming. I skipped Nest, not because it isn't strong, but because my current Arena Squad doesn't need it to climb to 1st.
I should be pretty safe for the next big meta change.
Don't forget the monthly events for NS shards. F2p players could easily already have MT and zombie by now. I'm f2p and I've had them both on 7* for several months. Hence, being f2p is not the issue here.
I really wish I had your willpower.
Why not? Try hoarding.
And to add on more to the OP question, I believe all the TB and TW also rewards crystals.
It's like living in a shed with 500k on your bank account just in case you need to buy something essential for your wellbeing. The shed might be all you "need", but i'd still prefer a nice appartment and just 250k on my bank account. Certainly because income doesn't seem to be an issue for you.
The strategy is solid, no doubt about that, but aren't you overdoing it a bit? I mean, 78k crystals? holy freaking sith, haha.
Heck, my pilots need work but still get 1st.
I have noticed that as more people get their arena team to G12+ that I now drop more... Have to use a refresh now but that's the nature of the game.
If you focus mostly on arena/pilots then you can get enough crystals. If you spread your attention then your crystal income will not be great.
@Boov
Pretty sure I'm not living in a shed. I'd say it's at least a decent apartment by most people's standards.
https://swgoh.gg/p/137721834/
Only time I've spent was on Tie Reaper so since then it's marquee or nothing. If you focus on one arena it's easier. I didn't understand fleet in the beginning and decided to learn a bit. Now I'm a regular top 5 at payout and 300+ crystals a day go to the 'elusive stun gun' charity, lol.
It's only a matter of time before a fleet raid comes and with TB/TW they're more useful now. Get in there early, or arena, and stay on top of it as best you can is my advice.
It can be done
humble bragging like a boss, point remains the same though. With the information you provided i think you could easily poor more resources into your roster without sacrificing your ability to get ahead of the curve when the meta changes.
I personally think your account would have been better with a 7* nest (since you mentioned her) from the get go, but with 23k less crystals. With the remainiing 55k crystals you'd still be ready for pretty much everything. hindsight is 20/20 ofcourse and you seem to be doing better than atleast 99% of the players, so if i were you i'd keep doing what i was doing. To me your hoarding just seems tad excesive, that's all. Then again, spending 20k crystals on a 3.5m account is hardly noticable..
You have 78k crystals and yet your Rose is only G7. Unacceptable.
Serious question: why not get Bastila to 7* for easier and more consistent STR p2 damage? You have enough crystals to 7* three separate marquee toons as soon as they hit shipments.
Discord: Iona Starbound#5299
Crystal income for F2P is out there in some decent quantities for those who are focused on getting it.
Being F2P means you have to make hard and smart choices, chasing the meta is not always the way to go. I never ran bugs but still get top 10 in fleet since the update, I also see players who still run bugs and dont use hounds tooth. They also can take top 10.
You issue seems to be wanting to spend more crystals to accelerate your farming and not being able to generate the income necessary. This will always be an issue, and while fleet is a source of income it probably the easiest to ignore, unless you are going to get top spots regularly.
Anyway, I should have resisted the urge to type as you wanted, but where is the fun in that.
As you can see from other posters the income is there and it's all about focus and planning.
@FailingCrab
Yes I could 7* some of those characters, but then I'd also be using up a lot of gear. It is not as though a character magically becomes G12 for free once you 7* it. Might have to spend another 20k crystals just to gear 1 character up to G12.
And my current guild runs through heroic sith a bit too fast. As it is, I barely have enough time to run a second team each phase. 1 extra team for 1 phase of 1 raid doesn't seem like a good enough justification to spend that amount of resources.(3* Bastilla with Zeta is perfectly serviceable in TW) If it were the next big Squad Arena meta change, that will be worth investing as it will contribute towards the long term goal of maintaining crystal income.
Remember the first arrival of JTR? Only f2p with some crystal hoarded was able to finish the vets. This time around maybe a Solo leg will arrive or old republic one will before the natural map refresh farming speed can catch up. I think it's a solid tactic (which I won't do anyways xD).
You’re not seriously saying you’re free to play are you .? maybe after spending $1000 then stopping 😏
I could see a that CG wanted to stop the crystal flow for players not spending money for quite a while now, and I agree with pretty much everything you said, flooding the game with new overpowered ships that can’t be beaten after players just finishing Geo’s is an insult.
It isn’t going to stop, all I can see is things getting worse...👌🏻
The top of my arena is full of traya leads that are 6 or 7 stars now. They are still beatable. The last meta I worked at to get was ep and still run it. Ep without traya can beat traya and bastilla if modded right. I fall into the 30s or 40s overnight but you can still get top rankings for a 50 crystal refresh. That still nets 300 or 400 crystals.
For fleet, I still run tfp, vader, and biggs under tarkin. I can beat enough teams to get to the top 10 easily and usually top 5. My fleet arena is a mix of buggs and teams similar to my own. There are a few hts but not many. Btw they aren't hard to deal with. Tfp's special puts buff immunity on it and then it dies quickly with like two more hits. Just because buggs struggle doesn't make it unbeatable. So I get another 300 crystals a day or so from there.
So added to the 100 to 200 you get from just dailies and such ftp can get 800 to 900 per day.
If you use them to farm good characters you can adapt when the meta changes. I'm currently refreshing hard nodes and doing six refreshes a day on that since it is the bottle neck. I'll have 7 star bossk and 7 star bastilla soon by doing this. I don't refresh fleet nodes or cantina at the moment because they aren't a bottleneck at the moment and the refresh at fleet is the most expensive way to farm bastilla and jolee other than the store. And I'm skipping nest for now because she likely isnt going to be needed for anything big and I do fine without her.
I fully plan to be ready for a bh, kotor, or possible solo legendary since that'll shift the meta. Getting that by at the very least second time, is important to stay at the top.