My second-most favorite "group" in the Star Wars universe (after the Imperial Royal Guards) are the Mandalorians. But not the wimpy Mandalorians Lucas turned them into in The Clone Wars (thanks, George, thanks a lot...), but the REAL Mandalorians, the ultimate warriors with their own code of honor. Mandalorians like Kal Skirata (from the Republic/Imperial Commando novels), Boba Fett (again, the original one, not the whiny brat)... but the one I would really, REALLY love to see is Bardan Jusik, Jedi Knight-turned Mandalorian, wearing a full beskar'gam (yes, the R/IC books are what defines Manos for me, not the junk Lucas came up with) and swinging a lightsaber.
The whole team would then consist of:
- Kal Skirata (Leader)
- Boba Fett
- Bardan Jusik
- Null-ARC
- Jango Fett?
I'd love to see more of those T-visors in the game...
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That would be pretty cool too, especially considering the fact all of them had different specializations.
Jango is from Concord Dawn and Boba is a clone from Kamino.
Jango, though not Madalorian by blood was raised by them. Boba, as it stands now, is only a Clone of Jango and as far as Canon, has had no real interaction with Madolorians.
Which is why I said that I do not accept the mess Lucas made of the Mandalorians, who previously were not a race as such, but rather a group of people brought together by shared ideals. Race, gender and so on were not important. In the former EU (now Legends), Boba Fett was a Mandalorian.
right! I mean how dare he mess with the story he created!
Your irony is totally unnecessary here. Yes,he has the right to do whatever he feels like with the universe he created. Kudos to him for doing so in the first place. However, ever since the EU came to life, he's been making a mockery of the whole thing.
Remember a card game called Star Wars CCG released by Decipher in the mid-nineties? It was supposed to be a part of the official canon (not EU). There was a lot of interesting info in the "lore" section of the cards. Like the Owen Lars card saying he's the brother of Obi-wan Kenobi. Then one day Lucas decides that he'd changed his mind and alters the story. Mind you, we're talking about information that was previously approved by Lucas himself!
The same thing happened with the Mandalorians. First their "history" was approved when Karen Traviss was writing R/IC, the Lucas decides to turn them into pacifists. And clearly it was a case of "because I can", since there was no good reason to do anything of the sort. Sorry, mate, defend him all you want, but Lucas' "genius" is, sadly, non-existent. The original trilogy was so great because his ex-wife introduced a whole lot of changes to the plot, the "renaissance" of Star Wars was brought about by authors such as TimothyZahn, Michael A. Stackpole or Kevin J. Anderson, then Lucas decided to make a come-back with the prequels and showed us how bad the OT would have been if things were done the way he'd originally designed them. When left to himself, Lucas makes things go from bad to worse and the story of the Mandalorians is just another example of this.
Compare the junk he gave us in TCW with the incredible culture Traviss created and then we'll talk.
So, irony and misplaced rage aside, this is the universe we have. I was p***ed when the EU was made Legends, just because I always believed Boba Fett made it out of the Sarlacc, and then he lived a long life as an aging gunslinger. But I enjoy the new material as well, and if nerfing the back story of Mandalore was part of the price for that, I can live with it.
If you cannot, that's cool, just don't be surprised when not everyone agrees with you.
you realize this is a game about a make believe Galaxy right?
No, no, you misunderstand. I have no problems with the fact that people enjoy the ideas Lucas introduced since the release of the PT, be it in the new movies, TCW or wherever. That's fine by me, whatever rocks your boat But I would also appreciate it if people did not react with hostility whenever they hear that I don't like the direction Lucas took SW. I simply believe that what he did was wrong and ruined huge parts of the SW universe for many fans out there. And, as I said before, a lot of his ideas that contradicted the EU seem to be done only out of spite and for no other reason. Otherwise what would be the reason for doing what he did to the Mandalorians? If he needed a race of pacifists that were harassed by the Death Watch, he could've used any other race or just created a brand new one. Messing with the Mandalorians served no purpose other than ruining yet another part of EU. And Lucas never denied not particularly liking the Expanded Universe.
@Xylo_Phona, can you tell me what is the reason for this hostility? You don't agree with me, that's fine, you don't have to, the world would be a dull place if we all shared the same opinions. But why not discuss the differences in a civilized manner? That's what a forum is for, isn't it? If you disagree with the things I said, provide a counter-argument, state your opinion, let's discuss it. But this? This is the way a five-year-old behaves. I disagreed with what you said and your reaction is jumping straight to insults? Wow. Just... wow.
if you think paraphrasing your whinny rant is insulting, or if you can't handle cynicism, then maybe your skin is a bit thin? or you have some sense that you should be respected in some way befitting your stature? which is a false sense of entitlement, at the very least, but probably far greater issue than just that.
and yes, it is a matter of perspective if your rant was whinny or not, but...There is an overabundance of crying happening on this forum, if you can't agree with that, the you are also blind, or more likely you can't admit it because you are guilty of it yourself.
So Lucas changed it up? oh well! Get over it. Be stoked that those other stories are out there.
and if you really cared about civility, you'd have just ignored me and went on with your day, instead you engaged and became the exact thing that you are accusing me of.
I guess you're right. Some people are incapable of participating in a conversation and should be ignored. Thanks for pointing out yourself that you're one of those people. Have a good weekend and enjoy the game
And back to topic.
I was wondering about throwing Canderous Ordo into the mix. We already have HK47, so we can assume at least parts of the Old Republic era are canon, so why not add him? He played a pretty important role in the history of the EU.
look man, I'm sorry your feelings are hurt, but...
(paraphrasing, don't have a fit)
"I believe that what Lucas did was out of spite and no other reason"
how do you have the inside to track to Lucas mind? Your "deductive" reasoning is weak at best, saying "why else would he have done it"? why else? Because it is(was) his Universe, why can't he do what ever he likes.
BUT because YOU don't agree with what his choice was, then everyone else is wrong. So YOU are the one that is demanding that it be one way and no other way. YOU are the one that can not play well with others here. YOU are the one that is pitching a fit, from some elitist self important position. I didn't insult you with name calling. I called a spade a spade with your whining. if you can't live with that, that's on you. if you can't see that you are being silly, whining over an imaginary universe that you had NOTHING to do with the creation of, then maybe you really need to examine that.
And the passive/aggressive "some people should be ignored" is ridiculous too. Getting one more post in to tell me you are going to ignore me? come on man. If me saying "you realize it make believe" and "how dare he change his own story" made you this upset...jezz man...I feel for you.
I agree it's dumb that George discarded some stuff or altered things, but it happens all the time with any story line when trying to adapt it to the screen (tv or movie). it is what it is. And maybe EA/CG will follow the EU, they don't seem to be bound to Canon anyway.
happy gaming man, lighten up and don't be so defensive.
This made my morning lol.
As for the OP. I agree that there should be a number of them added. I never read any of the stories but what I do remember is how they were portrayed in the KOTOR games. They were very skilled and many were Jedi killers. Makes me want to download the APP and play lol
I think if you want to discuss former EU perhaps to use the off-topic forum? It would avoid this aggression and misunderstanding. I see a lot more EU discussion on that forum and it's usually more constructive.
Yup. Considering the fact that we're getting more and more Jedi teams (QGJ/Yoda/Lumi), having more anti-Jedi specialists would come in handy.
Yeah, he'd be great. From the info we got about him from the books, I think he should buff the turn meter (because of his morale boosting) and add stealth/evasion (since he's an infiltration specialist). Combine this with Fett being a tank (who, by the way, would need a boost in that department), Jusik being a healer and the rest (Darman? Ordo?) as attackers, the team should be quite powerful.
So Disney's wipe out move was indeed a correct, necessary one.
And you can include some former games into this category too. Let's take Galen Marek for example. A kid who's created for a game called Force Unleashed, is more powerful in everyway than Anakin/Vader, the Chosen One. Starkiller kicked Vader's butt in every single fight in both TFU1 and TFU2. A major part of Star Wars is all about Skywalker legacy, how can you just create a character for a game and let him mock Vader like that? That was a disaster. I'm so glad that it's just a Legends content now.
It's George Lucas' fault that he simply blessed every single author to who wanted to write a novel inside his universe. He didn't have any spites against them at all, otherwise he would avoid letting them abuse his creation like that. So he had to fix those ridiculous stuff, I'm sorry.
If he could only be more selective about those authors.
I see your concern about Mandalorians, but if you check their page in Star Wars wiki, you'll see that they still preserve some very cool stuff about their prestige.
The new canon lore is much more interesting now, aı love it much more than the extremely absurd and bloated EU.