How to demotivate your guild!?
Really simple! just need to Face an almost 40M PG over yours guild in TW, but why leave it there, while your guild is mostly F2P, just starting with the HSTR, so no Trayas in the guild (only two from new members that arrived with them) and obviously ZERO Revans! Your opposing guild has almost the entire guild with Trayas + around 20 Revans...
We are used to face guilds with a lot of GP more, but always with a similar farming inventory, meaning no Trayas, but this time . . .
We are used to face guilds with a lot of GP more, but always with a similar farming inventory, meaning no Trayas, but this time . . .
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If that's not the case however, there have been other players that have reported having bad guild match ups, like a bug in the matchmaking.
Some funny stats comparing our guilds!
I know people ask others to not join, but at the level of our guild we can't ask for that, we don't have other guilds to send them, and yes, we have the 50 members registered and we only need to deploy 22 teams per territory
But still, the system needs to be more intelligent, don't face guilds that don't have a critical character vs guilds that have them all..., not asking to analyze all legendaries or something like that, but at least the current META!
There is so many reports on this topic that I can’t be ignored.
It’s really a shame, TW with even matchups are some of the most fun game mode imo. But unevenly matched the complete opposite.
Hope they fix it soon
Myself and my other guildies are wondering how you are getting on against them?
I must however admit that my guild matches mostly equal guilds in the majority of our TWs. So it's entirely broken, but it somehow just can't handle guilds with less than 50 participants.
Unfortunately it kinda ruins the experience for the guild they're facing whether they signed up with less than 50 participants on purpose or not.
Beautifully!!
Totally Agree! Our guild is really into TW, and we are really passionate about it, but this is near to impossible, this is the first time a rival clears our board and we never had a chance...
Below you have Trayas with 8 Revans
Above you have 10 Revans and the rest are Bastilas
We choose the above path just to practice and we have left 5 Revans that won’t go down with anything...
Yeah it sucks when that happens. Really hard to keep people motivated to try when it is impossible. But my advice is just to let those that want to practice do so and let everyone else take the night off. At least second place rewards aren't horrible.
And asking some to sit out isn't a solution. I'd rather have the second place rewards than the nothing you get if you're picked to sit out.
I'm not sure that CG knows the algorithm. Looking at what aperingo posted above: If that falls into the WAI bucket, then it's just very poorly written code, and a review from the programmers isn't likely, based on past experiences. That's not my guild, but that has to be the worst match-up I've seen posted here. Too bad CG won't ever see this as a problem. Too busy with something else that will make it's way into the game, that we can soon QA test it in the live environment for them.
That discord screencapture is a bit skewed though due to it comparing the entire guilds, not just the participating members. With 22 slots only 43/44 players singed up i believe.
I'm sure the devs are aware of the mismatches though, maybe it just doesn't happen often enough from their perspective to adjust the algorithm, i don't know. Like i said, it works fine for my guild (most of the time).
But yes, i can't wait for the latest, newest, flashiest.... debacle to come
The devs are aware that there "are" mismatches. They've specifically asked guilds to post the details of such on these exact forums so they can get an overview of how far apart their algorithm is matching guilds.
I'm also sure they're aware that less than 50 participants is causing alot of those mismatches?
I won't hold my breath for a quick or appropriate fix. Look at the Sith Raid.
I posted this in another of the "Mismatch" threads:
Total GP: +/- 10%? Yes? Next. No? Match denied.
Minimum players active: +/- 3? Yes? Next. No? Match denied.
Average active individual GP: +/- 10% Yes? TW launches. No? Match denied.
3 simple checks. The guilds will be more evenly matched. Yes, one guild may have a few more or less Trayas or Revans, but not the 5:1 ratios we're seeing in the mismatches.
Each step becomes increasingly more focused on the individual players participating, but each step can deny the match if it fails.
It’s purely anecdotal, but our guild have had some pretty uneven matchups against us when all 50 sign up but opponents don’t have 50, then recently we ran 3 consecutive TWs with 49 members and all 3 of them were uneven matches in our favour.
Not all matches with unequal participants are mismatches, but most mismatches have unequal participants.
Agree that in reality it wasn’t 50 vs 50, but the member with less GP of the rival guild competes with our top 5 + 43 Trayas + 18 Revans VS our ZERO Revans + 2 Trayas its uneven even on the 43/44 vs 50
And we did saw the 18 Revans in the first two territories...
Our matches are generally 5-15 mil more for the enemy, once we were 4 mil higher lol
The Active GP was close enough to justify if you're matching by GP alone, but they need a way to factor more relevant criteria into the matchmaking.