DS needs a DS unlock after 3 years
November 9, 2018 11:41PM
edited November 2018
All it has been for three years is an ever increasing number of LS legendary and LS only Heroics. LS u locking LS 4 times, while DS unlock ZERO DS! I’m not asking for a game genie advantage. I am asking for actual reciprocity with your releases that don’t favor LS to such an extreme.
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Yes. Only LS fans love the free lopsided releases they get.
He wants a DS character that requires other DS characters to unlock.
OP, Yoda is unlocked with LS characters, but is the only legendary event that uses the same "side".
Not sure you should include the "Journeys" on your list. Though when there is a DS Journey that will likely require DS characters.
The reason I said not to count the Journeys is because they are telling the story of the character and their companions. They don't make sense with other factions. And I personally feel that the Journeys don't fall under the "Legendary" event category, because they require specific characters, not a faction. I'm not disagreeing with the OP, a DS for DS legendary would be nice.
Because they are the ones associated with that character. Don't know why that's hard to grasp. When we get DS Hero’s Journeys / Villans Fall they will likely require specific DS characters. If those DS journeys require LS characters, then there is a discussion to be had about it.
There aren't dark side players and light side players. There are just players, and if you're sensible, you're using both.
As for "bias," the source material is unsurprisingly biased toward the protagonists, who are usually light side.
You do have Talzin btw.
Coyote is always on the pulpit of dark side being neglected and persecuted.
Talzin requires DS. its not a legendary or journey event though...
Jango was a missed opportunity with BH and the next will more than likely be Kylo from episode 9 requiring Resistance or First Order teams. Preferably both.
Regardless, dark side legendaries specifically unlocked by dark side is an incredibly nitpicky complaint.
Of the actual legendaries, there is only one legendary unlocked by their own faction. Yoda. Who was the first legendary, and they've never done that since, implying they decided that wasn't a great idea, since literally every other legendary is obtained with the opposite faction. This change really improves the way legendaries impact the game, because you get your Rebel team built, you unlock Palpatine, and now you have a strong member for a new Empire team, giving you a leg up toward other content, while with Yoda, you build a Jedi team, unlock Yoda, and now you have a Jedi team plus another Jedi, which doesn't really take you anywhere. It just modifies what you already had a bit.
Complaining that there isn't a dark side legendary unlocked by dark side is literally complaining that they haven't repeated a past mistake. If the complaint is that there's no case of dark side faction A unlocking dark side faction B, that's a case for literally no one, and most dark side factions don't have a relationship to justify that, in the way that light and dark have a clear opposition to set up a fight. Which dark side factions would you even pit against each other, and two unlock whom? Most of them are threats operating within different spheres.
Classifying Heroes' Journey characters as "legendaries" in this framework is unreasonable, as they're a completely different thing. They're going back to the source stories, and retelling them in the framework of the game. The big Star Wars stories are generally about heroes. Light siders. That Luke's story has him surrounded by light side people is not bias. It's the source material. And it's also why it's every bit as fair to count the Talzin event as it is to count the journeys.
Even for a dark side journey, the most obvious would be Anakin. But as these are revisiting the tales, it would make sense for a dark side Anakin event to be fought with mostly light side characters, 'cuz he's surrounded and working along light side characters for his entire journey, save for Chancellor Palpatine. The only other viable option is one we might be gearing up for, and that's either Darth Revan or some sort of dark side Exile using dark side companions. However, adding more and more powerful Sith content right nowseems like a really bad idea, given how dominant they are in the meta right now, and have been for months.
Complaining that there's no dark side legendary unlocked by dark side characters is a complaint so specific and so without context or any basic attempt at understanding that it only functions as a complex that dark side is being persecuted against seeking out more material to justify itself. Which is pretty firmly Coyote's track record.
Guys, the “JOURNEY” excuse is simply that. An excuse. There are stories GALORE of DS characters on a path or journey to the Dark Side and CG simply ignores them. Vader’s rise, Maul with new legs to name a couple. But they simply refuse to add them. It’s all LS all the time. They mentioned many months ago the massive imbalance of LS toons vs DS toons. They only widened that gap which just boggles the mind. So many DS clone wars villains they could add, or even FO, or Empire. They just CHOSE not to do it. I don’t want an advantage, I want reciprocity. There is a reason Boba Fett and Darth Vader are arguably the most popular Star Wars characters of all, yet somehow they ignore that and instead give us 500 Hans. The good guys... were fighting SOMEONE... Ignoring Inferno Squad like they did is honestly, shocking. That was gift wrapped for them, new characters with specific abilities and stories but they passed them up. Perfect additions but no, passed them up.
Name them. Name the DS character NOT in the game. Then i want you to name toons to unlock them ALREADY in the game. Ill wait.
This complaining without solutions is like you're yelling at a wall.
Cyborg Legs Maul or “Risen Maul”, Talzin, Savage, Dooku, Sidious, Ventress, GK, JKA (cause the Jedi did actually play a role in that appearance)
Newly made Darth Vader, Sidious, Dooku, GK and JKA obviously play a role but are common now, Mace as well since that was the final push.
Jango should have been a journey but he was a $ marquee.
Nihilus Capital Ship the Ravager,Sith ships to unlock.
Snoke with Fo including Fox, KRUM, SFFOTP.
Hux- same
Death Watch Mandolirians could have been added, the missed the chance to add Inferno Squadron and since they are addicted to marquee releases before free toons, make them needed for Iden Versio. They even had a unique ship that could expand the empire fleet.
Maul is a no b/c it requires Qi'ra, who is LS
A new ventress? Uh why?
GK(general kenobi) and JKA? You serious here or are you just putting words in your post to make it seem longer?
Hux? Sure, mayne after episode 9 when we learn more about his skills. Right now all we know is nothing. He'd do better as a Capital ship pilot honestly.
Snoke? Nope. Not until episode 9 and thats a pretty big maybe pending on his return. He has no kit. Cant be released without a kit. Why would FO unlock him? They are his allies? Maybe. Depends on episode 9.
Mandalorians/Mandalore(Canderous Ordo) would work IF there was a mandalorian tag which there isnt so thats a nope as well. And there needs to be more mandalorians.
Savage? No, why? He dies just that way to Sid and never returns
Dooku? Why? You want a "on his knees" Dooku, where his passive is auto decapataion?
So all in all none are viable now except a Hux and Nihilus Capital ship. Everything else is literally years or several new toon release away. Theres you answer.
If we were gonna add enough Mandalorians to make them a faction, the most notable potential additions include Bo-Katan Kryze (whose most notable incarnation is light side as the Mand'alor as of end of Rebels), Ketsu Onyo, Ursa Wren, and Fenn Rau (and a member of Phoenix squadron). Maybe Satine Kryze and Alrich Wren, in a support capacity. Dark side, we've got... Pre Vizsla and Tiber Saxon? Plus Canderous Ordo. And we've already got a generic dark side Mando.
A sincere attempt to introduce the Mandos as a faction would by the nature of the material lean light side unless you force it to be dark.
A new Ventress like the BH Ventress also in the clone wars and you balk at that whole we are drowning in Hans? Right...
If you cannot see the difference between Asajj and Luke Skywalker in terms of relevance, such that you think Asajj is an appropriate Journey character, I don't know what to tell you, bub.
The journey characters have all been the definitive protagonists of their respective eras. Asajj is very not-that.
A bounty hunter Asajj coming to the game? Sure. As a journey or legendary character? That's just inane.