Imperial troopers

Roxxas

Hi guys, never looked into imperial troopers, are they worth farming and who are best 5 if the answer is yes ?

Thanks

Liath

Yes. Veers is necessary with his zeta. Range Trooper is very good. It depends to some extent on what you want them for. Shore, Death, Snow, Storm, Starck are all very useful in certain circumstances. Magma less so but he has his uses too (including in a squad that can defeat Traya).

TVF

Magma (specifically, the drunk version) is our guild mascot. Good dude. Or gal, not 100% sure.

mlb1399

They help with DSTB amen can take out a couple of poorly modded factions in GA/TW or B/C teams.

Best 5 are:
Veers
Starck(fast)
Snow
Range
Storm/Shore

I’m 54 zetas in and 4.75 and still haven’t added a zeta to Veers

Goodgil

Imperial troopers are absolutely worth it. They are required for DSTB, and are a solid offensive team for TW/GA. Their mechanic is simple: kill one enemy, and the rest follow quickly. They specialize in demolishing low-health+protection teams quickly, most famously NS. As far as I see it, the essentials are:
1) Veers. His leadership is ok (not required), but his unique is what makes the troopers work; whenever you kill an enemy, your entire team gets a massive TM boost.
2) Snowtrooper. His unique is a great when combined with Veers for more speed boost.
3) Starck. While troopers can work without him, he boosts the damage output significantly.
The other options are basically whoever you have available:
1) Top options are Deathtrooper (even more damage and keeping enemies dead), Rangetrooper (assist chance and retribution), Shoretrooper (a great tank+healer), and, in some cases, a non-trooper lead; Thrawn works if you expect the enemy to beat your speed (on offense), and Krennic works if you want to send the damage flying through the roof.
2) Every other trooper will do fine, but probably worse in most circumstances. Only exception is, when fighting Traya, there's a team that uses Magmatrooper under Thrawn leadership with troopers which is pretty effective counter.

Jarvind

Ideal team for most purposes is probably Veers/Starck/Snow/Range/Shore, but any combo of 5 should work at least decently as long as you have Veers zeta'd. Only exception is that pairing Storm/Shore is redundant and probably doesn't give you enough firepower to keep the turn meter train rolling. I imagine you could probably get away with a no-tank setup and replace Shore with Death or Magma, if they're fast enough.

They flatten Nightsisters, which is an otherwise really annoying faction on defense, so they're worth it for that alone.

mlb1399

Jarvind wrote: »

Ideal team for most purposes is probably Veers/Starck/Snow/Range/Shore, but any combo of 5 should work at least decently as long as you have Veers zeta'd. Only exception is that pairing Storm/Shore is redundant and probably doesn't give you enough firepower to keep the turn meter train rolling. I imagine you could probably get away with a no-tank setup and replace Shore with Death or Magma, if they're fast enough.

They flatten Nightsisters, which is an otherwise really annoying faction on defense, so they're worth it for that alone.

It’s way trickier with the zombie rework and a well modded NS.

And I disagree that any 5 work. Depends on how you’re defining work. First 5 waves of DSTB, yes. Garbage teams in TW/GA, yes. Good teams in TW/GA, not likely unless you mod Starck for a lot of speed and it really depends on the faction

GreenGoblin96

mlb1399 wrote: »

They help with DSTB amen can take out a couple of poorly modded factions in GA/TW or B/C teams.

Best 5 are:
Veers
Starck(fast)
Snow
Range
Storm/Shore

I’m 54 zetas in and 4.75 and still haven’t added a zeta to Veers

You should give them a chance buddy, well geared/modded troopers can take down every BH and NS lineup.

Don't forget that a fact starck can go first and give 20% tm to the rest of the team under veers lead

mlb1399

GreenGoblin96 wrote: »

mlb1399 wrote: »

They help with DSTB amen can take out a couple of poorly modded factions in GA/TW or B/C teams.

Best 5 are:
Veers
Starck(fast)
Snow
Range
Storm/Shore

I’m 54 zetas in and 4.75 and still haven’t added a zeta to Veers

You should give them a chance buddy, well geared/modded troopers can take down every BH and NS lineup.

Don't forget that a fact starck can go first and give 20% tm to the rest of the team under veers lead

I have and I’m guessing I have a faster Starck than you(not bragging just have really good mods). A faster Bossk double zetad will wreck that team.

Roopehunter

mlb1399 wrote: »

Jarvind wrote: »

Ideal team for most purposes is probably Veers/Starck/Snow/Range/Shore, but any combo of 5 should work at least decently as long as you have Veers zeta'd. Only exception is that pairing Storm/Shore is redundant and probably doesn't give you enough firepower to keep the turn meter train rolling. I imagine you could probably get away with a no-tank setup and replace Shore with Death or Magma, if they're fast enough.

They flatten Nightsisters, which is an otherwise really annoying faction on defense, so they're worth it for that alone.

It’s way trickier with the zombie rework and a well modded NS.

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Good teams in TW/GA, not likely unless you mod Starck for a lot of speed and it really depends on the faction

Just defeated full g12 +3 zeta ns squad with my g10 average troopers in ga..

Zveers, starck, snow, death, shore. However, deathtrooper never got to use his deathmark so im pretty sure i could have replaced him with any other trooper.

FerLandrossa

mlb1399 wrote: »

Jarvind wrote: »

Ideal team for most purposes is probably Veers/Starck/Snow/Range/Shore, but any combo of 5 should work at least decently as long as you have Veers zeta'd. Only exception is that pairing Storm/Shore is redundant and probably doesn't give you enough firepower to keep the turn meter train rolling. I imagine you could probably get away with a no-tank setup and replace Shore with Death or Magma, if they're fast enough.

They flatten Nightsisters, which is an otherwise really annoying faction on defense, so they're worth it for that alone.

It’s way trickier with the zombie rework and a well modded NS.

This. I've found them far less reliable since they reworked zombie.

Can anyone answer, does range trooper make much of a difference?

They are the only trooper I don't have but I'm not sold so far that it's worth farming them.

How much extra does their kit really bring vs nightsisters?

Vertigo

mlb1399 wrote: »

GreenGoblin96 wrote: »

mlb1399 wrote: »

They help with DSTB amen can take out a couple of poorly modded factions in GA/TW or B/C teams.

Best 5 are:
Veers
Starck(fast)
Snow
Range
Storm/Shore

I’m 54 zetas in and 4.75 and still haven’t added a zeta to Veers

You should give them a chance buddy, well geared/modded troopers can take down every BH and NS lineup.

Don't forget that a fact starck can go first and give 20% tm to the rest of the team under veers lead

I have and I’m guessing I have a faster Starck than you(not bragging just have really good mods). A faster Bossk double zetad will wreck that team.

Starck Base speed is 4 higher than Bossks and Veers lead gives Starck +20 speed so evenly modded Starck outpaces Bossk. Gives tm, DT uses grenade and Bossk can't taunt until his second turn thanks to cooldown reduction. Pick off the weaker BHs while bossk is useless and then let deathmark go to town on the BH. (My Starck may also be faster than yours )

CoastalJames

Not only are they very effective (one of the few effective teams against Nightsisters), they are also one of the most fun factions to use in the game.

Treeburner

I use Zgar lead with , shore,zDT, zstarck, zveers.
Got my Zstark at 270 speed so I can dispel zombie straight away.

Shok

Starck has always seemed underwhelming to me. Is his primary purpose to be super fast and get things rolling?

DaPowerfulJedi

Shok wrote: »

Starck has always seemed underwhelming to me. Is his primary purpose to be super fast and get things rolling?

Pretty much. The buff dispel can come in handy too.

TVF

And AOE stagger. And crit up. Underrated.

Vendi1983

@FerLandrossa Range is supremely underrated.

Along with retribution, and the 50% assist chance, he grants protection up + regular protection recovery on his special (along with retribution).

They completely destroy almost any team I throw them against. In GA they're my "Hmmmm. That might be a tough one" answer, every time.

zVeers - 215 G10 (Speed/Pot)
Starck - 248 G9 (Speed/Health)
Range - 191 G9 (Offense/Tenacity)
Shore - 155 G9 my last 6* (All health)
Snow - 158 G8 (Offense/CC)

Absolutely wreck the DSTB Probe Droid mission, and any other mission in the battle. Rebel Roundup is easier than with higher gear BHs.

Shok

I always forget about the dispel!

Shok

Range seems to be getting excellent reviews from the community, and based on that I think it's safe to say he's good in most game modes.

So let me ask... in what situations should he be left on the bench?

Droideka

@Shok in situations where deathtrooper would be better, for his full-team dispell, cool down increase, or healing immunity. Range trooper is almost just as effective or more effective in almost every situation, however, so feel free to use him.

GreenGoblin96

mlb1399 wrote: »

GreenGoblin96 wrote: »

mlb1399 wrote: »

They help with DSTB amen can take out a couple of poorly modded factions in GA/TW or B/C teams.

Best 5 are:
Veers
Starck(fast)
Snow
Range
Storm/Shore

I’m 54 zetas in and 4.75 and still haven’t added a zeta to Veers

You should give them a chance buddy, well geared/modded troopers can take down every BH and NS lineup.

Don't forget that a fact starck can go first and give 20% tm to the rest of the team under veers lead

I have and I’m guessing I have a faster Starck than you(not bragging just have really good mods). A faster Bossk double zetad will wreck that team.

Wow there, your assumptions are hurting my feelings. As the guy below you said, in equal mod situations, bossk will never outspeed starck.

There's always a weak link on a BH team, if you learn how to exploit that to your advantage, you can win any battle

Treeburner

Vendi1983 wrote: »

@FerLandrossa Range is supremely underrated.

Along with retribution, and the 50% assist chance, he grants protection up + regular protection recovery on his special (along with retribution).

They completely destroy almost any team I throw them against. In GA they're my "Hmmmm. That might be a tough one" answer, every time.

zVeers - 215 G10 (Speed/Pot)
Starck - 248 G9 (Speed/Health)
Range - 191 G9 (Offense/Tenacity)
Shore - 155 G9 my last 6* (All health)
Snow - 158 G8 (Offense/CC)

Absolutely wreck the DSTB Probe Droid mission, and any other mission in the battle. Rebel Roundup is easier than with higher gear BHs.

https://swgoh.gg/squads/18957/ have a look

Vendi1983

@Treeburner nice collection! One day... One day.

CoastalJames

Nobody asked but I use, and love, Imp Troopers 1.0 - Veers, Starck, Storm, Magma and Snow.


One day I'd love 2.0 - Veers, Starck, Shore, Range and Snow.


But too much else to farm right now. One day!

No_Try

Jarvind wrote: »

Ideal team for most purposes is probably Veers/Starck/Snow/Range/Shore, but any combo of 5 should work at least decently as long as you have Veers zeta'd. Only exception is that pairing Storm/Shore is redundant and probably doesn't give you enough firepower to keep the turn meter train rolling. I imagine you could probably get away with a no-tank setup and replace Shore with Death or Magma, if they're fast enough.

They flatten Nightsisters, which is an otherwise really annoying faction on defense, so they're worth it for that alone.

I use them for offense and loving them. Thus I will develop Range soon. I guess people are saving DT for other purposes? Should I be gearing up snow or would just DT do?

Rath_Tarr

CoastalJames wrote: »

Nobody asked but I use, and love, Imp Troopers 1.0 - Veers, Starck, Storm, Magma and Snow.

One day I'd love 2.0 - Veers, Starck, Shore, Range and Snow.

But too much else to farm right now. One day!

Yeah, that'll be my first troopers lineup.

Unfortunately they are currently stuck behind my Rebel hero backlog but such is the way of things in Star Wars.

CoastalJames

Rath_Tarr wrote: »

Yeah, that'll be my first troopers lineup.

Even that squad despite being basic - is effective and a lot of fun!