Motivation
January 9, 2019 3:31PM
edited January 2019
We need some sort of reward for deploying in each phase. Getting guild members to contribute is like beating a dead horse. We have players that will do special missions and that is it. Eventually a player in chat will beg and plead for everyone to go deploy in hopes of getting another star. It just gives a negative experience to the game mode.
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Sorry to say that you probably either need to boot the bottom of your guild, or if the bottom of your guild is most of your guild, find a better guild.
It's frustrating, but I stay put for now because I'm almost always top 3 in every raid, and the extra salvage really helps me gear up my squads. Eventually though I'll move on to a more serious group. You can't tell casuals to stop being casual. They're just not that into it.
I'm not moving guilds because I like yelling at people.
Did you see the post where I said I yell at people?
This is a problem in many guilds. You have to decide which is more important. Number of members, or number of members that contribute. I recently had to eat my own words and start enforcing our rules. Tough choices were made and I am not happy, but I do have the guild as a whole to think of. I can be in charge, or everyones friend. Not both.
This. Eventually you weed out the ones who don't listen, and the guild is better off for it.
Yelling is not the answer. State the rules, and the consequences for not following them. Clearly and concisely. Then it is up to those not contributing. The rest see you are trying to motivate, and you have done all you can. A guild leader that yells at me can go pound sand. I'm not their kid.
No point in that. The problem is having to hound the people who don’t deploy. When I have to hound 10 people because we need 5 of them to deploy to get the third star, giving more rewards to the 3-4 people who continued to ignore me doesn’t provide a better incentive.
Exaggeration. I'm always polite. Believe it or not.
It's typically a "hey we noticed you've been inactive a few days and didn't notify anyone. Everything ok?" Usually we get back a "yeah sorry RL stuff" and we say it's fine, just let us know next time. Sometimes it's habitual and we eventually kick. Sometimes we get ignored and we kick.
"Yelling" is shorthand for that paragraph you just read.
My mistake, and my approach is pretty much the same. If members are pulled away by life, family, etc.. I offer them a rest in our development guild. Some have actually opted for it. And our dev guild has brought us two strong new members that were burnt out on the elitest guilds constant pressure. I remove members from main when we either mutually decide or when they have ignored requests to discuss things, and if it is a first time offense, (ignoring rules etc) I send them an invite to our dev guild.
I used to do that in my MMO days, now I just don't have the energy to waste on people who will 99% of the time just do whatever they want anyway.
I sometimes come on these threads just to remind myself how much I love our guild. We are MEGA TB oriented. 44* on LS and 47* on DS. We’ve had to move a lot of members on over the lifespan of TB, but we are reaping the benefits now.
For this TB, we’ve brought in new rules, as a nod to burnout. Phases 1-3 sees deployment closed for approx 12 hours only. After 12 hours, it’s open season. Those who want to fight the combats can do so, those who don’t will not be hounded as we don’t need the points to get 3* in all zones. Specials are still mandatory though.
From phase 4 onwards it’s the old rules:
- platoons first. No combat at all until they’re done.
- Combats and special to be completed by 3pm UTC
- Deployment usually opens around 8am UTC but we use a cutoff, so that all missions (other than ships) hit 50/50 before 3*
- People who haven’t hit combats / special are tagged on Discord. They virtually always hit.
It sounds like the ****, when you read it like that, but the GET and crystals are superb at that level.
We’ve done our sums, and at 179M GP we hope that this will be our first ever 45* - but if we pull it off all phase 6 combats will need to be 50/50 and all members will need to deploy.
Seriously - if 1/4 of your guild won’t contribute to something everyone benefits from, might be time for them or you to find somewhere else.