Buffed TW Feedback [MERGE]
January 16, 2019 6:51AM
edited January 2019
“We knew going in that we wanted to avoid overly punishing certain teams” CG dev.
As they take out 3 of the 7 existing imperial troopers. As they take out the backbone of the nightsisters in ventress. As they take out the character a couple of their mammoth whales spent $400+ on (revan). Enfys nest is one of the only characters that makes sense to remove being that nest can be thrown onto literally ANY squad and be just as effective, even after nerf. Most of the other removed characters were absolute staples for their designated tags.
Also, they were characters that many people invested one, if not more, zetas into. Was this accounted for when calculating guild power? If not, I alone have about 50,000-100,000 squad power from zetas alone just sitting on the sidelines.
I realize this post also mentioned this format was not set in stone. So this is simply feedback, albeit negative in nature. I want to add that maybe forcing people to split certain characters, rather than omit them entirely. An example would be not allowing Han Solo and Luke skywalker on the same team. Or not allowing Traya with Sion, Jolee with revan, zombie with acolyte, RJT with R2D2, etc. Because one small positive I got out of this event was forming some interesting team setups with some of my top characters due to their default teams being incomplete.
Edit: Since this post was merged, might as well share my opinion on this next attempt. While I much prefer my characters being buffed, rather than nerfed, most of these buffs are going to be exploited on defense, where the extent of my experience with them will be watching a little number next to my team hopefully exceed the value 1. But at least I get to see the enemy guilds ewoks completely roll my top level team, proceed to be stacked with turn meter and basically doom my entire guild.
If you are going to buff an entire faction... ramifications of that buff need to be heavily tested and researched. This felt like it had about as much thought as the "We knew going in that we wanted to avoid overly punishing certain teams” misleading statement from the last TW. Honestly, most of the community was perfectly happy with... normal TW. Sometimes matchmaking was wonky, but people can deal with that. Look at the most popular multiplayer games on the internet right now... Fortnite (not a lick of matchmaking, you could easily be put in the same game as ninja or shroud (two big names in the scene)) and League of Legends, which is pretty notorious for having pretty poor matchmaking.
If EA is that desperate to "mix things up" I'm pretty sure the single character buffs were relatively popular among the community. They were isolated enough to where they weren't going to break the game, but still brought characters that were previously irrelevant forward, allowing them a moment to shine. And possibly doubling as a beta test for future reworks.
As they take out 3 of the 7 existing imperial troopers. As they take out the backbone of the nightsisters in ventress. As they take out the character a couple of their mammoth whales spent $400+ on (revan). Enfys nest is one of the only characters that makes sense to remove being that nest can be thrown onto literally ANY squad and be just as effective, even after nerf. Most of the other removed characters were absolute staples for their designated tags.
Also, they were characters that many people invested one, if not more, zetas into. Was this accounted for when calculating guild power? If not, I alone have about 50,000-100,000 squad power from zetas alone just sitting on the sidelines.
I realize this post also mentioned this format was not set in stone. So this is simply feedback, albeit negative in nature. I want to add that maybe forcing people to split certain characters, rather than omit them entirely. An example would be not allowing Han Solo and Luke skywalker on the same team. Or not allowing Traya with Sion, Jolee with revan, zombie with acolyte, RJT with R2D2, etc. Because one small positive I got out of this event was forming some interesting team setups with some of my top characters due to their default teams being incomplete.
Edit: Since this post was merged, might as well share my opinion on this next attempt. While I much prefer my characters being buffed, rather than nerfed, most of these buffs are going to be exploited on defense, where the extent of my experience with them will be watching a little number next to my team hopefully exceed the value 1. But at least I get to see the enemy guilds ewoks completely roll my top level team, proceed to be stacked with turn meter and basically doom my entire guild.
If you are going to buff an entire faction... ramifications of that buff need to be heavily tested and researched. This felt like it had about as much thought as the "We knew going in that we wanted to avoid overly punishing certain teams” misleading statement from the last TW. Honestly, most of the community was perfectly happy with... normal TW. Sometimes matchmaking was wonky, but people can deal with that. Look at the most popular multiplayer games on the internet right now... Fortnite (not a lick of matchmaking, you could easily be put in the same game as ninja or shroud (two big names in the scene)) and League of Legends, which is pretty notorious for having pretty poor matchmaking.
If EA is that desperate to "mix things up" I'm pretty sure the single character buffs were relatively popular among the community. They were isolated enough to where they weren't going to break the game, but still brought characters that were previously irrelevant forward, allowing them a moment to shine. And possibly doubling as a beta test for future reworks.
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If Ewok special abilities all have 0 cool down and we place them on defense, does that mean they will ALWAYS use the special over their basic attack?
If so, will they always use the same special if they have more than one?
AI favours bring low even if there are no buffs on the opposing team.
Lol. If I hadn’t played this game for years I wouldn’t even believe that could be coded so poorly.
AoE AB to all enemies.
@RT_666 yep. Sounds like our experience. I couldn’t even beat Bastila teams with my arena crushing nightsisters because I couldn’t cleanse buffs without ventress. My 2 top teams were savagely gutted. NS and Imperial Trooper.
@Hazakar yea... For EA- Profit > Anything else. Sucks they own the rights to many things many people love so we are pretty much stuck. I’ll leave it at that. Don’t wanna get too negative here.
You just die ?!
Either kill him first or use abilities that can't be revived from
But if Teebo takes a turn, all Ewoks get 100% turn meter. And it has no cooldown this tw
That being said, what would be the best setup here? I have all of them zetad, also got zzC3PO. Probably chirpa,elder,wicket are must have, but not sure which 2 to use from paploo, logray and c3po. Logray would spam AOE daze, which could stop teams like cls, paploo would taunt, c3po would give tons of bonuses and full assists . What do you think?
Use your strong teams against Ewoks.
Use your own Ewoks.
Plan better.
It’s a you problem, not a we problem.
Not yet. That was my other concern as well. I could see timeouts happening there or just being worn down by revives. It's just pointless. Makes little sense at all. To me this is worse than banning characters. At least we we're still on a level playing field against squads we chose to battle
Really? Why not?
Because then I can't use it against tough teams because I have to counteract a poor decision by cg. Even with battle bonuses my zeta palp team would've likely won. They just went overboard plain and simple.
Against "tough" teams? You mean normally tough teams, without these buffs. Because right now, I'd say the team you can't beat is a "tough" team.
How do you counter them taking 10x the amount of turns you do with tons of assists? Short of stun which wears off eventually. Of the two of you who say "git gud" neither of you have actually given any ideas.
Ewoks are far from useless lol they're amazing as is on offense
And then we use what team against other meta teams? Exactly.