Anti-Jedi skills make no sense
March 10, 2016 3:06AM
edited March 2016
Ok, I get that some people are trained to fight Jedi. But the way certain skills work now makes no sense. Take these situations:
1. Darth Sidious gets a 35% extra dodge vs Jedi.
-All right. Seems logical that Jedi wouldn't be as good against him. But wait, so you're saying that he's great at dodging Jedi... but an Ugnaught comes at him with a wrench and he doesn't know what to do? This wasn't set up right. It should be (arbitrary numbers here), *everyone* gets a 50% dodge *except* against Jedi because they're so good. But Sidious gets a 35% even against Jedi.
2. Count Dooku's Force Lightning has a 90% stun chance against Jedi.
-But only 40% against non-Jedi. Wait, what? So *I'm* more resilient to Lightning than a trained Jedi? Mace caught Lightning on his lightsaber. Yoda caught this very move from Dooku in the palm of his hand! (Ok, Luke was kinda fried.) Sure seems though that they oughta flip that percentage the other way.
3. Darth Maul hits Jedi *really* hard. But he decides to just slap everyone else? Absurd.
I'm thinking that everyone needs to do worse against Jedi in general, and *then* the anti-Jedi moves make sense.
1. Darth Sidious gets a 35% extra dodge vs Jedi.
-All right. Seems logical that Jedi wouldn't be as good against him. But wait, so you're saying that he's great at dodging Jedi... but an Ugnaught comes at him with a wrench and he doesn't know what to do? This wasn't set up right. It should be (arbitrary numbers here), *everyone* gets a 50% dodge *except* against Jedi because they're so good. But Sidious gets a 35% even against Jedi.
2. Count Dooku's Force Lightning has a 90% stun chance against Jedi.
-But only 40% against non-Jedi. Wait, what? So *I'm* more resilient to Lightning than a trained Jedi? Mace caught Lightning on his lightsaber. Yoda caught this very move from Dooku in the palm of his hand! (Ok, Luke was kinda fried.) Sure seems though that they oughta flip that percentage the other way.
3. Darth Maul hits Jedi *really* hard. But he decides to just slap everyone else? Absurd.
I'm thinking that everyone needs to do worse against Jedi in general, and *then* the anti-Jedi moves make sense.
My ally code: 296-673-769. Wish we could have more than 35.
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Same with Dooku. Force lightning is channeling powerful darkside energy, which light side-focused Jedi would find very jolting (pardon the pun).
Darth Maul's bonus is fury/hate for Jedi from his side, as opposed to dark side sensitivity on the "receiving" end.
Or at least that's how it all works in my made-up Star Wars mind.
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I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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14 jedi in the game?
BUt from a game perspective it makes perfect sense... as if Sidious had a 35% dodge against everything he would verge on being OP... If you ever ran a full Jedi team against Sidious you'll know what I mean.. that 35% can mean none of your jedi can hit him before he has killed all your jedi. It's rare but it's possible...
Again from the game's perspective.. it poses a choice for people to risk taking in a a full jedi team against a team containing Sidious or mix and match!
What works well lore wise may not translate well into a game mechanic never mind the idea of having a sense of balance within the game..
Game used to be fun when it wasn't a grind... if I wanted a grind I would have went and played old school Everquest or some Korean MMO!
We can blame that on Darth bane and the rule of two... master and apprentice
What doesn't make sense to me are all the people who want to give mace, or yoda, who have never fought a sith, seen a sith, or know their tactics anti sith abilities.
This, a million times, still have tears in my eyes
What is this madness? I have seen rocks roll a mile when I pull out my paper.
You do realise this is based on the dejarik game they play in the movies and in clone wars. It's not supposed to mimic 'real' I star wars. If it did there would be so much more wrong than just this.
If you're playing KOTOR and you see an ugnaught taking out sidious with a wrench in the dining room, then we have a problem
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I like the !jedi stuff, but I think Yoda and Sid basically tied their fight - and Mace was a light side person who knew some darkside lore, and actually looks like he would have been able to kill Sid if Anakin was not there to save him (he could even counter force lightning!) Not sure if Sid was just egging Ani on, but Mace messed him up good. So I can see people thinking that those 2 should get something, not that I think they should.
When General Kenobi arrives, he is someone that using quips and talk - seems to knock an opponent off balance. Perhaps he could have better dodge against sith or somthing when he arrives?
Literally, at no place in any lore does it say the Sith are fundamentally stronger than the Jedi. This is simply something that Sith fanboys have convinced themselves of.
The Sith ultimately defeated the Jedi of the Old Republic not by defeating them in combat, but by infiltrating, manipulating, and usurping the government; and then using that government to exterminate them. It also took them 25,000 years to do it...
The Sith use the same lightsaber technics and most of the same force abilities. They differ from one another in their ideologies, beliefs, and morals.
You would never ask why, in a chess game, the knight moves across 3 and up 2, or vice versa. You just accept that that is the mechanics of the game.
The whole game would be off by your logic. A lowly genosian soldier that takes out the most badass heroes in the galaxy? It's not like that because genosian are actually stronger.
Are you just going to start making up Sith Lords then? There are only 5 of them in the saga? & they were mostly apprentices. Please don't give me a EU answer... It's over folks...