GG vs CLS - Against the odds

Referring to this video:
Specifically the battle at 19:33 and the missed finishing blow at 20:13

Unfortunately the CLS squad doesn't use R2 (why??) for the stat boost, the additional crit chance, the potency (expose from 3PO) and the cleanse (buff immunity + TL) upon crits.

Base numbers (assuming fully maxed out chars and no mods taken into consideration):

CLS tenacity: 33% (+100% when he doesn't have Call to Action)
CLS crit chance: 48,42% (+50% from Call to Action, +25% from Guard)
B2 potency: 53%
GG crit avoidance: 50% (0.5% for each stack of Droid Batallion)

1) Zolo starts the battle by attacking GG and getting him low on health (Chewie being a direct counter to the high health pool of GG and therefor very helpful), admittedly the double crit from Zolo was a bit lucky as each hit has a ~53% chance to crit and there even was expose applied, feeding B2 with 100% TM in the process
2) B2 using his AoE (no potency boost yet from GG's reworked leader ability as it is his first AoE) --> 80% chance to inflict buff immunity on CLS + 20% to pass the tenacity/potency check (133% tenacity - 53% potency = 80% chance to resist)
If there would've been no buff immunity, CLS would've got a stack of translation upon using his "Call to Action" plus another one upon using his "Use the Force", so 2x translation giving him +15% crit chance and resulting in a higher crit chance (48,42% + 50% + 25% + 15% - 50% = 88,42% crit chance).
3) CLS attacking GG with "Use the Force" and missing his crit (48,42% + 50% + 25% - 50% = 73,42% crit chance) --> 26,58% chance to happen

- B2 needs to land buff immunity on CLS to avoid CLS getting 2x translation --> 80% + 20% chances
- CLS needs to miss his crit on the finishing blow --> 26,58% chance
0,8 x 0,2 x 0,2658 x 100 = 4,2528% chance

tl;dr: With a propper modded CLS team (inlcuding R2) GG will VERY LIKELY die to the opening of the CLS squad and the battle will be over pretty quickly.

(would be nice if CG would provide some "more realistic" game footage)
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  • Gorem
    1185 posts Member
    I felt like they had put Old ben there to show how useless he is against this team and how little he adds, and didn't use R2 so they could show footage of GG winning.

    Probably couldn't beat the team with R2 out there, cause that extra damage and debuff removal and everything else he gives would have countered most of what the sep team does.

    Definitely looks like CLS will be a counter to GG, who counters Revan, who can beat the cls team. Maybe we will have our rock paper scissors back for awhile, that'd be nice :)
  • Darth_Tomsteros2707
    147 posts Member
    edited February 2019
    Well traya kittens Grievous with annihilate droideka and with trayas unique kills b1
  • crzydroid
    4603 posts Moderator
    There are a lot of things about beta footage that don't make sense. Additionally, you can't see mods.

    I'm not sure I'd agree with "struggling" just because it gets down to 5 v 3. From the footage, it looks like the team has a lot of ability to come from behind. That being said, I like the idea that CLS probably has a good chance on offense.
  • Old Ben instead of R2 is really funny...
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