Revan/CLS/Nest Taunt ignore, and Marked mechanics
February 24, 2019 12:30PM
edited February 2019
It's pretty much a given that the General Grievous/Seperatist rework was a huge disappointment. There are quite a few reasons for this, but the biggest issue with his rework; and the overall game right now is how op Revan is. I could write an entire book about how ridiculously op his kit is, but I'd rather work towards solutions. A small fix that could some what remedy the situation is by fixing the interaction between taunt ignore, and marked. Marked is a brand new debuff, and its possible that the devs overlooked this detail. "Marked" shouldn't be able to be ignored by characters with "Taunt" ignore, simple as that. This would give GG more viability in arena, and tone down Revan just a tiny bit. I mean things just start to get ridiculous when Revan can mark 2 characters at a time anyway. This solution also gives the devs room to claim this was a negligent error, and not just poor design; like when they "fixed" nest many months after she was released. Overall this is a simple fix, and it wont solve all the things wrong with Revan and the game right now, but it could help to get a little more diversity back in arena. Not to mention give a little consolation to the players who had their hopes crushed by this rework.
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What? It's the Marked ability itself that applies a taunt. It's built in to the Marked effects, which can't be evaded or resisted. Got a feeling this is another one of those discussions that will go round in circles.
That's not the point, the interaction that I'm proposing would mostly help GG by not allowing Revan/CLS to get around the droids that GG applies marked to.
Nope. Marked is a forced taunt, says right there in the mechanics screenshot I posted. Therefore anyone who can ignore taunts should be able to ignore it. I disagree with you. Why should kits people rely on be made less effective to make a failed rework better?
As far as the buff immunity argument, as I've already said, the effects from marked can't be evaded or resisted. Same deal as using Vader's ability block on basic against a Jedi with tenacity up.
It's not gaining a buff. It's gaining an effect. Subtle difference, but important to the mechanic.
I agree though, Mark is its own ability and should have its own effect called 'Mark' that can, and should, behave differently than Taunt. Or they should just call it 'Forced Taunt' and use a red Taunt indicator instead of the Mark indicator.
Taunt is a buff
To which I bring it back to this point: Why should kits people rely on be made less effective to make a failed rework better?
Nest was broken, this isn't.
And an effect. Mark is not applying the buff. Only the effect.
Read the description on the post above, marked is applying taunt to the target.
Bonus protection (on all characters and ships) has been based on max health since it's inception. It allows characters below gear 7 to gain bonus protection. They won't get any bonus protection if it was based of protection they don’t have yet due to gear levels.
Still bonus protection, so still should have her max health reduced, therefore she was broken.
Good luck with your taunt rant.
I did. It's applying the effect. Not the buff.
I agree with you on this one and I'm trying to help you make your argument stronger. If you can't differentiate between a buff and an effect then many folks are going to dismiss your arguments as uninformed.
Point out where I said it applies a buff. I'll wait.
It has all the effects of a taunt without the little green marker. It is still a taunt.