Communication

Prev1
Why isn’t there better communication with this game. Why all the secrecy? Is leaving the players in the dark really generating additional revenue? We find out about the Ebon Hawk the day of the event. Still no timeline on DR. The timeline you guys did for the GG and Separatist Droid rework last month was awesome. Why can’t we have the same thing this month, for KOTOR? The puzzles, misinterpreted tweets, cryptic messages by devs, etc are not communication. I was excited about DR and the panic farm a few weeks ago. Now, it’s radio silence as usual. The community is fed up with being left in the dark. You have a five year plan, that’s awesome, but why can’t you share a bit with us?

Replies

  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator
    Options
    It's great to be excited about rumors, but there is no proof DR is coming. Maybe hes not, which is why we dont have a timeline.
  • Options
    I want to know how on earth we are ever expected to receive “improved communications” if the devs “need permission” to post something as mundane as was posted yesterday. There was zero definitive anything in the “Finn response”. It was more ambiguous than “Pat” from SNL way back. Someone needs to loosen the noose a little if they need a thumbs up before stuff like that
  • Options
    12parsecs wrote: »
    Why isn’t there better communication with this game. Why all the secrecy? Is leaving the players in the dark really generating additional revenue? We find out about the Ebon Hawk the day of the event. Still no timeline on DR. The timeline you guys did for the GG and Separatist Droid rework last month was awesome. Why can’t we have the same thing this month, for KOTOR? The puzzles, misinterpreted tweets, cryptic messages by devs, etc are not communication. I was excited about DR and the panic farm a few weeks ago. Now, it’s radio silence as usual. The community is fed up with being left in the dark. You have a five year plan, that’s awesome, but why can’t you share a bit with us?

    They don't strike me as a development shop that has more than a a few months planned out in advance. That said, it's also not in their interests to give us a roadmap of upcoming character releases in advance. If we knew for example every upcoming event and character release for the next 3 months, most of us would plan our farms accordingly and minimize crystal expenditures. This would be a significant hit to their revenue. Remember this isn't the game model we grew up with. Back in the day there was a certain prestige in creating a piece of gaming art and being critically acclaimed. These days its all about cranking out games predicated on manipulating addictive personalities through frustration and raking in the dough. Player enjoyment is actually counter-productive.
  • Strubz
    429 posts Member
    Options
    Kyno wrote: »
    It's great to be excited about rumors, but there is no proof DR is coming. Maybe hes not, which is why we dont have a timeline.

    @Kyno ...of course Darth Revan is coming. Don't scare people! However no one from CG or EA has given a timeline. I personally believe the 3 zeta Gammoreon Guard "leak" was a purposely orchestrated decision to get everyone excited and farming. There is nothing wrong with that at all, it was clever if intentional and still fun if unintentional. Everyone is making way too many assumptions and guesses and getting mad when they are not validated. Anyways, all will be revealed "soon."
  • Options
    Kyno wrote: »
    It's great to be excited about rumors, but there is no proof DR is coming. Maybe hes not, which is why we dont have a timeline.

    Conquerer, villain... that was a video by CG. Darth piggy... that was also a video by CG. That’s exactly the issue; the lack of any meaningful communication. Just riddles in the dark...
  • leef
    13458 posts Member
    Options
    communication ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Save water, drink champagne!
  • Tarah
    202 posts Member
    Options
    simple... with the palpatine ship they gace us 4 days to prepare... and many ppl got it without spending...
  • Options
    Journey and legendary events are always teased a certain amount of time before the event. If people have the requirements months ahead of time, then people can easily get those characters without spending and too many players will have those characters on the first attempt, making the characters less special. GG and company were just reworks and marquees. There’s nothing different here from how journey and legendary events are always handled.
  • Options
    Strubz wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    It's great to be excited about rumors, but there is no proof DR is coming. Maybe hes not, which is why we dont have a timeline.

    @Kyno ...of course Darth Revan is coming. Don't scare people! However no one from CG or EA has given a timeline. I personally believe the 3 zeta Gammoreon Guard "leak" was a purposely orchestrated decision to get everyone excited and farming. There is nothing wrong with that at all, it was clever if intentional and still fun if unintentional. Everyone is making way too many assumptions and guesses and getting mad when they are not validated. Anyways, all will be revealed "soon."

  • Doxige
    98 posts Member
    Options
    Kyno wrote: »
    It's great to be excited about rumors, but there is no proof DR is coming. Maybe hes not, which is why we dont have a timeline.

    The point is the missing timeline, not if DR is coming... The timeline argument is Ebon Hawk was announced the same day :s
  • Options
    12parsecs wrote: »
    Why isn’t there better communication with this game. Why all the secrecy? Is leaving the players in the dark really generating additional revenue? We find out about the Ebon Hawk the day of the event. Still no timeline on DR. The timeline you guys did for the GG and Separatist Droid rework last month was awesome. Why can’t we have the same thing this month, for KOTOR? The puzzles, misinterpreted tweets, cryptic messages by devs, etc are not communication. I was excited about DR and the panic farm a few weeks ago. Now, it’s radio silence as usual. The community is fed up with being left in the dark. You have a five year plan, that’s awesome, but why can’t you share a bit with us?

    There has to be some secrecy so they can announce the event and have people panic buy and farm. That’s how they create revenue and they essentially gave a clue with the Ebon Hawk video and HK saying something about serving his master. Just farm the kotor characters and you should be okay. They have fair communication it’s better than any mobile game I’ve played.
  • Dk_rek
    3299 posts Member
    Options
    People :
    1)
    a) People demand a good luke
    b)CG gives us CLS
    c) Forum goes nuts "CLS OP" "CLS ruined game

    2)
    a) Give us a new raid and a great raid toon
    b) CG gives us HSTR and Traya
    c) Forums go nuts "raid too hard" "traya ruined the game"

    3)
    a) People demand Revan
    b) CG gives us Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "arena sucks" "Revan ruined the game"

    4)
    a) People demand GG rework
    b) CG gives us GG rework
    c) Forum goes nuts "GG sucks" "GG rework ruined the game"

    5)
    a) People demand Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    b) CG gives us Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "they are too OP" " Malak and revan ruined the game"

    6)
    a)People demand Finn cheese fix because raids ruined
    b) CG fixes finn
    c) Forum goes nuts "we want our zeta back" "this is bull"
    d) CG says "why don't you make like a tree......and get outta here"

    one of those things not like the other one of those things is not the same....

    anyway.... you people asking for and demanding stuff....as you can see above.... YOUR THE ONES...it seems are the cause of upheaval....... stop asking for toons lol
  • Options
    Dk_rek wrote: »
    People :
    1)
    a) People demand a good luke
    b)CG gives us CLS
    c) Forum goes nuts "CLS OP" "CLS ruined game

    2)
    a) Give us a new raid and a great raid toon
    b) CG gives us HSTR and Traya
    c) Forums go nuts "raid too hard" "traya ruined the game"

    3)
    a) People demand Revan
    b) CG gives us Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "arena sucks" "Revan ruined the game"

    4)
    a) People demand GG rework
    b) CG gives us GG rework
    c) Forum goes nuts "GG sucks" "GG rework ruined the game"

    5)
    a) People demand Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    b) CG gives us Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "they are too OP" " Malak and revan ruined the game"

    6)
    a)People demand Finn cheese fix because raids ruined
    b) CG fixes finn
    c) Forum goes nuts "we want our zeta back" "this is bull"
    d) CG says "why don't you make like a tree......and get outta here"

    one of those things not like the other one of those things is not the same....

    anyway.... you people asking for and demanding stuff....as you can see above.... YOUR THE ONES...it seems are the cause of upheaval....... stop asking for toons lol

    People in glass houses s-s-sink ships
  • Dk_rek
    3299 posts Member
    Options
    Dk_rek wrote: »
    People :
    1)
    a) People demand a good luke
    b)CG gives us CLS
    c) Forum goes nuts "CLS OP" "CLS ruined game

    2)
    a) Give us a new raid and a great raid toon
    b) CG gives us HSTR and Traya
    c) Forums go nuts "raid too hard" "traya ruined the game"

    3)
    a) People demand Revan
    b) CG gives us Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "arena sucks" "Revan ruined the game"

    4)
    a) People demand GG rework
    b) CG gives us GG rework
    c) Forum goes nuts "GG sucks" "GG rework ruined the game"

    5)
    a) People demand Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    b) CG gives us Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "they are too OP" " Malak and revan ruined the game"

    6)
    a)People demand Finn cheese fix because raids ruined
    b) CG fixes finn
    c) Forum goes nuts "we want our zeta back" "this is bull"
    d) CG says "why don't you make like a tree......and get outta here"

    one of those things not like the other one of those things is not the same....

    anyway.... you people asking for and demanding stuff....as you can see above.... YOUR THE ONES...it seems are the cause of upheaval....... stop asking for toons lol

    People in glass houses s-s-sink ships

    but nothing beats a great torpedo at your side
  • Options
    Dk_rek wrote: »
    People :
    1)
    a) People demand a good luke
    b)CG gives us CLS
    c) Forum goes nuts "CLS OP" "CLS ruined game

    2)
    a) Give us a new raid and a great raid toon
    b) CG gives us HSTR and Traya
    c) Forums go nuts "raid too hard" "traya ruined the game"

    3)
    a) People demand Revan
    b) CG gives us Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "arena sucks" "Revan ruined the game"

    4)
    a) People demand GG rework
    b) CG gives us GG rework
    c) Forum goes nuts "GG sucks" "GG rework ruined the game"

    5)
    a) People demand Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    b) CG gives us Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "they are too OP" " Malak and revan ruined the game"

    6)
    a)People demand Finn cheese fix because raids ruined
    b) CG fixes finn
    c) Forum goes nuts "we want our zeta back" "this is bull"
    d) CG says "why don't you make like a tree......and get outta here"

    one of those things not like the other one of those things is not the same....

    anyway.... you people asking for and demanding stuff....as you can see above.... YOUR THE ONES...it seems are the cause of upheaval....... stop asking for toons lol

    Someone finally said it
  • Options
    Kyno wrote: »
    It's great to be excited about rumors, but there is no proof DR is coming. Maybe hes not, which is why we dont have a timeline.

    What happens when a mod trolls?
    Ooba hutar.
  • Stick
    647 posts Member
    Options
    12parsecs wrote: »
    Why isn’t there better communication with this game. Why all the secrecy? Is leaving the players in the dark really generating additional revenue? We find out about the Ebon Hawk the day of the event. Still no timeline on DR. The timeline you guys did for the GG and Separatist Droid rework last month was awesome. Why can’t we have the same thing this month, for KOTOR? The puzzles, misinterpreted tweets, cryptic messages by devs, etc are not communication. I was excited about DR and the panic farm a few weeks ago. Now, it’s radio silence as usual. The community is fed up with being left in the dark. You have a five year plan, that’s awesome, but why can’t you share a bit with us?

    You lot are the reason the communication is perceived as bad. The communication is fine on the games end. Do you want to have everything written out and planned months in advance for the game ? All that will do is make you complain there is no surprises.

    Any change in the game suddenly turns into speculation , more often wrong than right. The forum gets flooded with stupid guesses and rumours. Then because of the nature of the people who speculate as soon as their theory is proven wrong , They make up something else and explain the already speculated “info” in another way.

    We aren’t in the dark. We all knew that greev and droids were getting better. Then you lot said he’s going to be a revan killer and dominate arena. Then suddenly you’re not happy and they communicated poorly because he couldn’t ? They never said he would , you just told yourselves that.
    Do I need to give you more examples on clear communication that got **** up by players like you ?
  • Kokie
    1338 posts Member
    Options
    I for one hope darth revan doesnt come.....at least for a long while...we need something meta besides a revan
  • Options
    Dk_rek wrote: »
    People :
    1)
    a) People demand a good luke
    b)CG gives us CLS
    c) Forum goes nuts "CLS OP" "CLS ruined game

    2)
    a) Give us a new raid and a great raid toon
    b) CG gives us HSTR and Traya
    c) Forums go nuts "raid too hard" "traya ruined the game"

    3)
    a) People demand Revan
    b) CG gives us Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "arena sucks" "Revan ruined the game"

    4)
    a) People demand GG rework
    b) CG gives us GG rework
    c) Forum goes nuts "GG sucks" "GG rework ruined the game"

    5)
    a) People demand Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    b) CG gives us Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "they are too OP" " Malak and revan ruined the game"

    6)
    a)People demand Finn cheese fix because raids ruined
    b) CG fixes finn
    c) Forum goes nuts "we want our zeta back" "this is bull"
    d) CG says "why don't you make like a tree......and get outta here"

    one of those things not like the other one of those things is not the same....

    anyway.... you people asking for and demanding stuff....as you can see above.... YOUR THE ONES...it seems are the cause of upheaval....... stop asking for toons lol

    The execution of all of these things was the problem. Every big release is bungled so horribly the community has to speak up.
  • CosmicJ
    348 posts Member
    Options
    12parsecs wrote: »
    Why isn’t there better communication with this game. Why all the secrecy? Is leaving the players in the dark really generating additional revenue? We find out about the Ebon Hawk the day of the event. Still no timeline on DR. The timeline you guys did for the GG and Separatist Droid rework last month was awesome. Why can’t we have the same thing this month, for KOTOR? The puzzles, misinterpreted tweets, cryptic messages by devs, etc are not communication. I was excited about DR and the panic farm a few weeks ago. Now, it’s radio silence as usual. The community is fed up with being left in the dark. You have a five year plan, that’s awesome, but why can’t you share a bit with us?

    They don't strike me as a development shop that has more than a a few months planned out in advance. That said, it's also not in their interests to give us a roadmap of upcoming character releases in advance. If we knew for example every upcoming event and character release for the next 3 months, most of us would plan our farms accordingly and minimize crystal expenditures. This would be a significant hit to their revenue. Remember this isn't the game model we grew up with. Back in the day there was a certain prestige in creating a piece of gaming art and being critically acclaimed. These days its all about cranking out games predicated on manipulating addictive personalities through frustration and raking in the dough. Player enjoyment is actually counter-productive.

    I see where you're coming from but this is a bit pesso. Some games are exactly as you say, but i think cg strike a pretty good balance.

    I really enjoy this game and have spent about the same amount as i did on blizzards Diablo series.
  • Options
    1. Op please search how many threads had this title over the years.
    2. I hope Darth Revan comes and we can move on from kotor. Not for any whiney reasons , I’m just not as invested into these toons. But happy for you fans.
    3. DK- funny but not really true. The forums are filled with many people. Many voices. But it is funny remembering people say “bring in kotor and take my money!”
  • Options
    I want to know how on earth we are ever expected to receive “improved communications” if the devs “need permission” to post something as mundane as was posted yesterday. There was zero definitive anything in the “Finn response”. It was more ambiguous than “Pat” from SNL way back. Someone needs to loosen the noose a little if they need a thumbs up before stuff like that

    Surely you meant to reference Ace and Gary instead of Pat.
  • Nihion
    3340 posts Member
    Options
    Dk_rek wrote: »
    People :
    1)
    a) People demand a good luke
    b)CG gives us CLS
    c) Forum goes nuts "CLS OP" "CLS ruined game

    2)
    a) Give us a new raid and a great raid toon
    b) CG gives us HSTR and Traya
    c) Forums go nuts "raid too hard" "traya ruined the game"

    3)
    a) People demand Revan
    b) CG gives us Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "arena sucks" "Revan ruined the game"

    4)
    a) People demand GG rework
    b) CG gives us GG rework
    c) Forum goes nuts "GG sucks" "GG rework ruined the game"

    5)
    a) People demand Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    b) CG gives us Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "they are too OP" " Malak and revan ruined the game"

    6)
    a)People demand Finn cheese fix because raids ruined
    b) CG fixes finn
    c) Forum goes nuts "we want our zeta back" "this is bull"
    d) CG says "why don't you make like a tree......and get outta here"

    one of those things not like the other one of those things is not the same....

    anyway.... you people asking for and demanding stuff....as you can see above.... YOUR THE ONES...it seems are the cause of upheaval....... stop asking for toons lol

    The execution of all of these things was the problem. Every big release is bungled so horribly the community has to speak up.

    The only reason the execution happened is because the community demanded it. So they were forced to shove it at us.
  • Options
    Dk_rek wrote: »
    People :
    1)
    a) People demand a good luke
    b)CG gives us CLS
    c) Forum goes nuts "CLS OP" "CLS ruined game

    2)
    a) Give us a new raid and a great raid toon
    b) CG gives us HSTR and Traya
    c) Forums go nuts "raid too hard" "traya ruined the game"

    3)
    a) People demand Revan
    b) CG gives us Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "arena sucks" "Revan ruined the game"

    4)
    a) People demand GG rework
    b) CG gives us GG rework
    c) Forum goes nuts "GG sucks" "GG rework ruined the game"

    5)
    a) People demand Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    b) CG gives us Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "they are too OP" " Malak and revan ruined the game"

    6)
    a)People demand Finn cheese fix because raids ruined
    b) CG fixes finn
    c) Forum goes nuts "we want our zeta back" "this is bull"
    d) CG says "why don't you make like a tree......and get outta here"

    one of those things not like the other one of those things is not the same....

    anyway.... you people asking for and demanding stuff....as you can see above.... YOUR THE ONES...it seems are the cause of upheaval....... stop asking for toons lol

    People wanted them to be good, but CG went overboard with how much powe they had. Revan totaly broke the game. Look at the swgoh.gg meta report and the post about the servers breaking from too many people getting him.
  • Options
    12parsecs wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    It's great to be excited about rumors, but there is no proof DR is coming. Maybe hes not, which is why we dont have a timeline.

    Conquerer, villain... that was a video by CG. Darth piggy... that was also a video by CG. That’s exactly the issue; the lack of any meaningful communication. Just riddles in the dark...

    Also, why would you name Jedi Revan as Jedi Revan, if there was no other version incoming?
    Why not just call him Revan, like literally everyone everywhere in the games.
    The Jedi tag only makes sense if we'll have another version.
  • Options
    Nihion wrote: »
    Dk_rek wrote: »
    People :
    1)
    a) People demand a good luke
    b)CG gives us CLS
    c) Forum goes nuts "CLS OP" "CLS ruined game

    2)
    a) Give us a new raid and a great raid toon
    b) CG gives us HSTR and Traya
    c) Forums go nuts "raid too hard" "traya ruined the game"

    3)
    a) People demand Revan
    b) CG gives us Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "arena sucks" "Revan ruined the game"

    4)
    a) People demand GG rework
    b) CG gives us GG rework
    c) Forum goes nuts "GG sucks" "GG rework ruined the game"

    5)
    a) People demand Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    b) CG gives us Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "they are too OP" " Malak and revan ruined the game"

    6)
    a)People demand Finn cheese fix because raids ruined
    b) CG fixes finn
    c) Forum goes nuts "we want our zeta back" "this is bull"
    d) CG says "why don't you make like a tree......and get outta here"

    one of those things not like the other one of those things is not the same....

    anyway.... you people asking for and demanding stuff....as you can see above.... YOUR THE ONES...it seems are the cause of upheaval....... stop asking for toons lol

    The execution of all of these things was the problem. Every big release is bungled so horribly the community has to speak up.

    The only reason the execution happened is because the community demanded it. So they were forced to shove it at us.

    Are you not able to read English properly or are you just intentionally playing dumb?
    Yes, the community wanted these toons, and CG delivered, but they did a major error related to every single launch. GG is the most notable where he was shown to hit twice as much as he actually can. Also, we wanted Jedi Revan, but we never wanted him to be ridiculously op, rendering everything else useless.
    If there werent these major errors (that could have been easily foreseen), the forumers wouldnt have breb complaining.
  • Options
    Kyno wrote: »
    It's great to be excited about rumors, but there is no proof DR is coming. Maybe hes not, which is why we dont have a timeline.

    That said, do we have information on the upcoming territory war boni?
    That's one thing the communication could be better. Guess there will be always things to improve :)

    oh and ...

    Objection: The master is coming. Meatbags, prepare to be vaporized!
    Circle of Sin. 2 Teams. This is the way! cos.rocks
  • Options
    I agree that communication is not being great at all. I think that something must be going on internally at CG. The dev announcements sub-forums is too quiet, they haven't even said anything there about the evon hawk!

    Maybe the "gamorrean guard" leak has freaked out some bosses internally... Who knows
  • Options
    That was no leak … that was a teaser ;)
    Circle of Sin. 2 Teams. This is the way! cos.rocks
  • Nihion
    3340 posts Member
    Options
    Nihion wrote: »
    Dk_rek wrote: »
    People :
    1)
    a) People demand a good luke
    b)CG gives us CLS
    c) Forum goes nuts "CLS OP" "CLS ruined game

    2)
    a) Give us a new raid and a great raid toon
    b) CG gives us HSTR and Traya
    c) Forums go nuts "raid too hard" "traya ruined the game"

    3)
    a) People demand Revan
    b) CG gives us Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "arena sucks" "Revan ruined the game"

    4)
    a) People demand GG rework
    b) CG gives us GG rework
    c) Forum goes nuts "GG sucks" "GG rework ruined the game"

    5)
    a) People demand Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    b) CG gives us Darth Malak and Darth Revan
    c) Forum goes nuts "they are too OP" " Malak and revan ruined the game"

    6)
    a)People demand Finn cheese fix because raids ruined
    b) CG fixes finn
    c) Forum goes nuts "we want our zeta back" "this is bull"
    d) CG says "why don't you make like a tree......and get outta here"

    one of those things not like the other one of those things is not the same....

    anyway.... you people asking for and demanding stuff....as you can see above.... YOUR THE ONES...it seems are the cause of upheaval....... stop asking for toons lol

    The execution of all of these things was the problem. Every big release is bungled so horribly the community has to speak up.

    The only reason the execution happened is because the community demanded it. So they were forced to shove it at us.

    Are you not able to read English properly or are you just intentionally playing dumb?
    Yes, the community wanted these toons, and CG delivered, but they did a major error related to every single launch. GG is the most notable where he was shown to hit twice as much as he actually can. Also, we wanted Jedi Revan, but we never wanted him to be ridiculously op, rendering everything else useless.
    If there werent these major errors (that could have been easily foreseen), the forumers wouldnt have breb complaining.

    The forumers will always complain, no matter what CG decides to do. There is a select group of people on this forum that feels the need to criticize everything that EA/CG does, and I understand that they aren’t the best game making companies, but at least they try, and they’ve kept the game running with updates consistently for 3 years. And I seem to remember many people demanding Revan be OP because he is supposed to be very powerful in KOTOR and the books. People will complain both ways. Was GG disappointing? Yes. Could this have been expected because CG would make less money off of him than Revan? Also yes. Look, communication has never been great, but I blame that on a pessimistic community that apparently wants to see the game fizzle and die. Your rude insult proves that you are in this toxic group, and feel the need to personally attack anyone opposing you.
Sign In or Register to comment.