No anti sith abilities?

ccfoo
154 posts Member
edited December 2015
Why are there so many specific anti jedi abilities but no anti sith abilities in the game?

Dooku's counterattack is a nightmare in early to mid game, Maul's AOE is quite formidable even before patch, sidious is devastating just based on his healing immunity and now we have Kylo Ren who seems to be the next OP character.

If those 4 are in a team with a healer, who do you focus fire to kill off first?

In the movies there are characters that are capable in fighting siths like Obi Wan, Luke, Anakin, Yoda, Windu etc but they are either not in the game, not jedi yet (Luke) or have no anti sith abilities. In my opinion, it will be nice if Kit Fisto, Windu and Anakin get buffs against sith.

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    Ill vote for mace windu to get buff with anti sith skills. He is a legendary jedi and hes one of the best at jedi council for the Force sakes. Please EA. Windu deserves his proper strength

    Oh i forgot, please consider liam neeson too to get buff since he is obi wan jedi master n he is one of the important characters in star wars universe.

    Have a good day ea and enjoy ur revenue on finn n kylo packs.

    May the Force be with u
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    Yea I thought Mace windu was one of the strongest jedi ever but his abilities are lacklustre in the game
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    Georenze wrote: »
    Ill vote for mace windu to get buff with anti sith skills. He is a legendary jedi and hes one of the best at jedi council for the Force sakes. Please EA. Windu deserves his proper strength

    Oh i forgot, please consider liam neeson too to get buff since he is obi wan jedi master n he is one of the important characters in star wars universe.

    Have a good day ea and enjoy ur revenue on finn n kylo packs.

    May the Force be with u

    Liam Neeson played Qui Gon Jin. Ewen McGregor played Obi Wan Kenobi in films 1-3.
    My name is cosmicturtle333, aka CT-333, aka Threes.
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    Georenze wrote: »
    Ill vote for mace windu to get buff with anti sith skills. He is a legendary jedi and hes one of the best at jedi council for the Force sakes. Please EA. Windu deserves his proper strength

    I voted for this.

    Windu is absolutely one of the strongest character in the starwars universe.
    In the story Windu can beat the sith lord without much effort but in this game he is weaker than a padawan.

    I dont care about barriss nerfed but Windu still got no buff annoy me.
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    Way too many anti Jedi!!!! Cad bane, hk47 and others.. Are the Jedi not considered some of the most powerful characters in the Star Wars canon???
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    I guess we are waiting for yoda lol
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    I think a generally good sith nerf would be like the "rule of two": you can only have 2 siths max in a squad. I still think some chars could use anti sith abilities but this could be a really good game mechanic
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    I don't get where the foundation for adding anti-sith abilities even begins. Who in the Star Wars universe would have this skill set? Yoda had a draw with Sideous. Vader has killed sith before and after he became a Sith Lord. Obi wan beat darth maul but that is not old Ben the protector that is in game. Luke and young obi wan are the only two I could see having this ability and they are not in the game.
  • Telaan
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    Llewella wrote: »
    I don't get where the foundation for adding anti-sith abilities even begins. Who in the Star Wars universe would have this skill set? Yoda had a draw with Sideous. Vader has killed sith before and after he became a Sith Lord. Obi wan beat darth maul but that is not old Ben the protector that is in game. Luke and young obi wan are the only two I could see having this ability and they are not in the game.

    There's a ton of characters that have skills and abilities that don't necessarily fit their canon portrayal. That being said, Yoda (who defeated Dooku on Geonosis), ROTS Obi Wan, Jedi Knight Anakin (who defeated Dooku on Grievace's ship), and Luke are potential toons that that should/could easily fit the bill.
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    You re essentially saying the same thing I said. They are not in the game yet.

    I disagree that Anakin should have anti-sith abilities. He' s not anti-sith at all he's just really good at killing.
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    However is the Dark Side currently not stronger in the game then the light side?
    Should this not be somehow better balanced?
    What is the message in ethics if EA makes the dark Side stronger then the light side?

    I think if you want to be good you need count dooku. His 100% riposte is ridiculus. And you need the Darth sidius with him anti heal.
    Both are alone a nightmare.

    If I compare Luke with IK-86, ik 86 has better damage plus can call other party members in.
    Luke seems to be somewhat weaker in his desk role.

    I am a bit sceptical this should be this way.
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    I think it is more accurate to Star Wars to have siths overpower jedis. As some siths are Jedi turned evil it seems to make more sense for siths to know the weaknesses of jedis and not the the other way around. Also the dark side is simply stronger than the light side.
  • senseless
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    edited December 2015
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    ccfoo wrote: »
    If those 4 are in a team with a healer, who do you focus fire to kill off first?

    Daka first :)
    If maul and sidious are on the same team -- I will go for whichever has the lowest HP. Usually it's maul and he will die in 2-3 hits. Then I go to sidious because that heal immune is a PITA.

  • Nonemo
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    Well... Mace would be a good candidate for a Sith killer, seeing as how Vaapad is a style designed to master the darkness within oneself and draw strength from the opponent's own battle fervour.

    Basically, the more hateful and battle hungry his opponent is, the stronger Mace becomes. Which would mean he should be able to entirely dominate opponents like Darth Maul. Indeed, he even subdued Sidious.

    The downside would be the incredible danger of exposing yourself to the Dark side. Mace's padawan Depa Billaba consequentially fell to the darkness and Mace had to seek her out and kill her.

    Another candidate for an anti Sith ability might be Plo Koon, who's portrayed as being extremely stalwart even for a Jedi. He has battled a lot of Sith or Dark side force sensitive warriors in the comics (not sure if any of them are canon anymore), among them Asajj Ventress, Darth Maul and Savage Oppress.

    Both Mace and Plo Koon are rather lacklustre at the moment and I for one would love to see either of them turned into an anti Sith hero.
  • Telaan
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    ObiWang wrote: »
    I think it is more accurate to Star Wars to have siths overpower jedis. As some siths are Jedi turned evil it seems to make more sense for siths to know the weaknesses of jedis and not the the other way around. Also the dark side is simply stronger than the light side.

    You must never have seen the movies. Your post couldn't be further from the truth. Even if it were true gameplay/balance > lore.
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    you know why there's no anti sith skill? Because everyone is anti sith! Dark side characters have no health! Maybe Opress and Vader can take some damage. Every other sith can be killed in one shot or 2 probably.
  • Nonemo
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    I wouldn't call Sid frail by any means. Maul and Dooku are low on HP so as not to be OP... Oh, and there are only five Sith in the game so far. I wouldn't mind seeing a few more. **** legs Maul maybe? Or why not an Old Republic Sith? Or since they included HK-47, would it be possible to get a Darth Malgus maybe? That would be a true Sith tank!
  • Nonemo
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    Once again the forum censors the word syber (with a C). Why? Is it a naughty word in some forgotten end of the world?
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    I agree Mace Windu and Jedi Knight Anakin needs a buff that shakes any Sith in game. Unless devs in EA is Anti-Jedi.
  • pay2win
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    edited December 2015
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    Give Luke a light saber and 2x damage to Sith.
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    Perhaps in canon there is no real "anti sith" characters other than Windu because the republic got caught by surprise due to Emperor Palpatine's "betrayal". The antagonists (grevious, dooku, maul, sidious etc) are all trained to kill jedis and without incidental help from the light side of the force, most jedis aren't really their match.

    For non canon, there are quite a few rather strong jedis who are able to fight with sith well, like kyle katarn from the new jedi order, revan from the old republic etc Hope that they will be in this game as well! :)
  • Nonemo
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    Ooo I know! Quinlan Vos! B) We need Quinlan in this game.

    Also in the Clone Wars telly series (where Eeth Koth, Savage Oppress and Ima-Gun Di appear) there's LOTS of battles between various Jedi and Sith... No reason to just stick with the movies.

    I still think Mace would make the most sense to revamp as a Sith slayer though. And speaking of which, at some point we're getting Jango too... Right? Right?
  • Telaan
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    edited December 2015
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    I'm not sure how people come to the conclusion that Jedi aren't trained to or capable of defeating Sith. Or how this idea that the Jedi are inherently weaker than the Sith came from. If the Sith were so much stronger, it wouldn't have taken thousands of years, the subversion and manipulation of an entire government, a massive clone army with a hidden switch, a galaxy spanning war, and the betrayal of one of the strongest Jedi in the history of the order to accomplish the near annihilation of the Jedi.

    Aside from that, expect this to change. The game HEAVILY favors darkside toons right now with Sith toons being on point. Expect new toons with anti-Sith capabilities to be introduced for a modest fee.
  • Nonemo
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    I wouldn't say that the game HEAVILY favours DS... Two of the best damage dealers are Leia and Lando. LS have the best healers by far. I think it is rather balanced, as a whole. True, both are chromium only. For FTP players it may be that the balance favours DS vs LS?
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    Nonemo wrote: »
    I wouldn't say that the game HEAVILY favours DS... Two of the best damage dealers are Leia and Lando. LS have the best healers by far. I think it is rather balanced, as a whole. True, both are chromium only. For FTP players it may be that the balance favours DS vs LS?

    Leia is currently broken; and there's no viable way of gaining stars for either of those toons. As a result even those with 4* versions will be replacing them with 7* toons. I haven't faced a Jedi or lightside dominated team in the top 50 since the order 66 patch. I'm sure they exist....but they're rare.
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    Telaan wrote: »
    Nonemo wrote: »
    I wouldn't say that the game HEAVILY favours DS... Two of the best damage dealers are Leia and Lando. LS have the best healers by far. I think it is rather balanced, as a whole. True, both are chromium only. For FTP players it may be that the balance favours DS vs LS?

    Leia is currently broken; and there's no viable way of gaining stars for either of those toons. As a result even those with 4* versions will be replacing them with 7* toons. I haven't faced a Jedi or lightside dominated team in the top 50 since the order 66 patch. I'm sure they exist....but they're rare.

    You must not spend much time in the top 50. Leia is used by every P2W player because of her bug.
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    pay2win wrote: »
    Telaan wrote: »
    Nonemo wrote: »
    I wouldn't say that the game HEAVILY favours DS... Two of the best damage dealers are Leia and Lando. LS have the best healers by far. I think it is rather balanced, as a whole. True, both are chromium only. For FTP players it may be that the balance favours DS vs LS?

    Leia is currently broken; and there's no viable way of gaining stars for either of those toons. As a result even those with 4* versions will be replacing them with 7* toons. I haven't faced a Jedi or lightside dominated team in the top 50 since the order 66 patch. I'm sure they exist....but they're rare.

    You must not spend much time in the top 50. Leia is used by every P2W player because of her bug.

    Nobody on my server uses Leia. I'm in the top 50 and I've used 0 fights today, I've made top 10 a couple times and there are only a handful that I haven't fought. Most of the top players on my server lean towards sith teams although there are a couple lead by qu gon/lumi who are the true elite. Still top 50 is mostly sid led. The sid/kylo/Vader combo is quite strong.
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    Nonemo wrote: »
    I wouldn't say that the game HEAVILY favours DS... Two of the best damage dealers are Leia and Lando. LS have the best healers by far. I think it is rather balanced, as a whole. True, both are chromium only. For FTP players it may be that the balance favours DS vs LS?

    The problem is that Leia and Lando are even more powerful than Windu, Anakin etc?

  • Telaan
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    pay2win wrote: »
    You must not spend much time in the top 50. Leia is used by every P2W player because of her bug.

    I've never finished my day in less than top 50. It's why I qualified my statement with that ranking. I RARELY encounter Leia and as time goes by I see fewer and fewer chromium only toons as people realize it's possible for a 7* f2p toon to instagib a 4* chromium only toon.
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