Actually after reading this again, the enemy leader is the only one that can be deathmarked correct? If that is the case, the NS could still win. It would be much tougher but a possibility. Would have to get through the fear though.
And corrupted battle meditation, or there will be no plague. Ventress could do huge damage against characters with zero defense, though.
Found a response from Crumb in another topic saying they changed it.Deathmark prevents revives.
Everyone's deathmark (e.g. death trooper)? Or just DR's?
Deathtrooper's Deathmark says it too.
Technically no, TERMINATE does, but until they fix it deathmark doesnt actually say it in game
I wouldn't have written that unless I just checked it, in game. It says it right in the debuff description in the game, "can't be revived"
Terminate negates revival if the Terminate attack kills the the toon.
This is level 1 Terminate:
Deal Physical damage to target enemy. If the target is suffering any debuffs, this attack is a guaranteed Critical Hit. Targets defeated by Terminate can't be revived.
Level 8
Deal Physical damage to target enemy. If the target is suffering any debuffs, this attack is a guaranteed Critical Hit. If there are any defeated enemies, also inflict Deathmark for 2 turns, which can't be Resisted. Targets defeated by Terminate can't be revived.
Terminate negates revival if the Terminate attack kills the the toon.
This is level 1 Terminate:
Deal Physical damage to target enemy. If the target is suffering any debuffs, this attack is a guaranteed Critical Hit. Targets defeated by Terminate can't be revived.
Level 8
Deal Physical damage to target enemy. If the target is suffering any debuffs, this attack is a guaranteed Critical Hit. If there are any defeated enemies, also inflict Deathmark for 2 turns, which can't be Resisted. Targets defeated by Terminate can't be revived.
I understand that. But I went into the game, used DT, and Deathmarked a toon. Then I clicked on them to pull up the debuff screen, and under Deathmark it said "can't be revived".
I'd add a screenshot but I play on my phone and I don't want to go thru the hassle of trying to get a picture from there to the forums. Go into a battle and test it for yourself if you don't believe me.
Terminate negates revival if the Terminate attack kills the the toon.
This is level 1 Terminate:
Deal Physical damage to target enemy. If the target is suffering any debuffs, this attack is a guaranteed Critical Hit. Targets defeated by Terminate can't be revived.
Level 8
Deal Physical damage to target enemy. If the target is suffering any debuffs, this attack is a guaranteed Critical Hit. If there are any defeated enemies, also inflict Deathmark for 2 turns, which can't be Resisted. Targets defeated by Terminate can't be revived.
I understand that. But I went into the game, used DT, and Deathmarked a toon. Then I clicked on them to pull up the debuff screen, and under Deathmark it said "can't be revived".
I'd add a screenshot but I play on my phone and I don't want to go thru the hassle of trying to get a picture from there to the forums. Go into a battle and test it for yourself if you don't believe me.
I am not disagreeing with what you said but the mechanics of DM does not prevent revival.
That's Deathtrooper's Deathmark applying revive immunity, at least if I can understand the code from swgoh.gg
That's the Terminate mechanic...it applies revival immunity and DM.
This is level 1...no DM
Apply EffectContext #2specialability_deathtrooper02_kill_trigger_BASE
To Self who is Alive
Apply child effect(s) based on condition triggers
Effect expires on:Perform Move
Child effect is applied on:Kill
Context Returned: Target(s) and if effect succeeded in applying
ImmunityContext #0generic_revive_immunity_target
For Current Target from Enemy Side who is Alive or Dead
Applies an Immunity effect to the target(s)
Effect is unresistable
Descriptiverevive_immunity
Effectedrevive
Context Returned: Target(s) and if effect succeeded in applying
Deathmark's in game buff description has been updated to include that it does prevent revives when active. Long press on a character that has Deathmark in battle and it will mention that it prevents revives.
Imagine if they can beat each other and we get some semblance of balance to the meta.
And for all star war fans you have either Revan or Darth Revan. Even at that level the choices are.... rather limited to two whaled out characters that are both OR. Let us supposed that DR is a counter to Revan, which is probably why they are slow rolling release to make sure they didn’t screw up like with Grevious, you can’t let Darth Revan get beat by JKR, CLS, or Empire teams. That would make it worthless. So, while the Meta might change a little, it will most likely be a duality of Revans. Not sure that is much better.
Imagine if they can beat each other and we get some semblance of balance to the meta.
And for all star war fans you have either Revan or Darth Revan. Even at that level the choices are.... rather limited to two whaled out characters that are both OR. Let us supposed that DR is a counter to Revan, which is probably why they are slow rolling release to make sure they didn’t screw up like with Grevious, you can’t let Darth Revan get beat by JKR, CLS, or Empire teams. That would make it worthless. So, while the Meta might change a little, it will most likely be a duality of Revans. Not sure that is much better.
That's the Terminate mechanic...it applies revival immunity and DM.
It's not though.
Yes, terminate (at any level) applies revive immunity. But so does Deathmark. It says it in game, the devs said it, and the code itself shows it. Not sure why you still insist that it doesn't.
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No they won't, again ACTUALLY READ
No **** below us, above us only sky...
That's a terrible idea, you lose 30 speed and a bunch of abilities
WHAT?
The Beatles, man. Relax.
And more release dates, please. This should be a two way forum.
And corrupted battle meditation, or there will be no plague. Ventress could do huge damage against characters with zero defense, though.
Everyone's deathmark (e.g. death trooper)? Or just DR's?
all
Deathtrooper's Deathmark says it too.
Technically no, TERMINATE does, but until they fix it deathmark doesnt actually say it in game
I wouldn't have written that unless I just checked it, in game. It says it right in the debuff description in the game, "can't be revived"
Terminate negates revival if the Terminate attack kills the the toon.
This is level 1 Terminate:
Deal Physical damage to target enemy. If the target is suffering any debuffs, this attack is a guaranteed Critical Hit. Targets defeated by Terminate can't be revived.
Level 8
Deal Physical damage to target enemy. If the target is suffering any debuffs, this attack is a guaranteed Critical Hit. If there are any defeated enemies, also inflict Deathmark for 2 turns, which can't be Resisted. Targets defeated by Terminate can't be revived.
I understand that. But I went into the game, used DT, and Deathmarked a toon. Then I clicked on them to pull up the debuff screen, and under Deathmark it said "can't be revived".
I'd add a screenshot but I play on my phone and I don't want to go thru the hassle of trying to get a picture from there to the forums. Go into a battle and test it for yourself if you don't believe me.
I am not disagreeing with what you said but the mechanics of DM does not prevent revival.
Immunity
Context #0
generic_revive_immunity_self_deathmark
For Self who is Alive or Dead
Where an active effect doesn't have tagrevive_immunity
Applies an Immunity effect to the target(s)
Effect is unresistable
Descriptiverevive_immunitydeathmark_revive_immunity
Effectedrevive
What? Tldr please
That's Deathtrooper's Deathmark applying revive immunity, at least if I can understand the code from swgoh.gg
That's the Terminate mechanic...it applies revival immunity and DM.
This is level 1...no DM
And for all star war fans you have either Revan or Darth Revan. Even at that level the choices are.... rather limited to two whaled out characters that are both OR. Let us supposed that DR is a counter to Revan, which is probably why they are slow rolling release to make sure they didn’t screw up like with Grevious, you can’t let Darth Revan get beat by JKR, CLS, or Empire teams. That would make it worthless. So, while the Meta might change a little, it will most likely be a duality of Revans. Not sure that is much better.
It's not...it makes it worse.
Yes, terminate (at any level) applies revive immunity. But so does Deathmark. It says it in game, the devs said it, and the code itself shows it. Not sure why you still insist that it doesn't.
Look -
Apply Effect
specialability_deathtrooper02_kill_trigger_BASE
...
Child effect is applied on:Kill
Immunity
generic_revive_immunity_target
...
This is the terminate revive block on kill.
Apply Effect
specialability_deathtrooper02_deathmark_part3of3
...
Effect is unresistable
Descriptiveclearable_debuff
...
Immunity
generic_revive_immunity_self_deathmark
...
Applies an Immunity effect to the target(s)
Effect is unresistable
Descriptiverevive_immunitydeathmark_revive_immunity
...
That's Deathmark revive block.
Better?