Rancor simming is oppressive.
Rancor simming is oppressive to those who want to manually do it. Most guilds work democratically and democracy is a very oppressive system. The rewards are better for the lower half of the guild, equal for the top 20-10 and worse for the top 10. This means that it's a 30/20 balance at best, I would argue it's more like 30-40/20-10. There is no way if you put it on a vote that the majority is ever going to win this, especially when every rancor it used to be 10-15 people raiding and everyone else getting a 0.
I am struggling to convice my guild to keep it manual and yes this is my personal problem, but everywhere I look on guild recruitment, most top GP guilds seem to be simming it. What's the other option, start my own guild? It's possible, but then again who wants to do that, I've been in people's guilds for 3 years now all of a sudden I gotta make my own?
This feature punishes all those who showed up on time for the past year and a half and rewards those who haven't showed up in that long. Considering how easy it is to solo the rancor in less than 10 minutes and on auto, all you have to do is show up. And if you aren't willing to show up, fine, then don't complain about where you place.
I would totally support simming the raid if the guild currency and gear was top 3 instead of top 20. Yet the devs very conveniently boosted the amount of Han shards to make it more appealing to alot of guilds.
This is a case that is an example of how democracy can be oppressive to a group of individuals who go the extra mile to earn more and that's not example that this game should promote.
I am struggling to convice my guild to keep it manual and yes this is my personal problem, but everywhere I look on guild recruitment, most top GP guilds seem to be simming it. What's the other option, start my own guild? It's possible, but then again who wants to do that, I've been in people's guilds for 3 years now all of a sudden I gotta make my own?
This feature punishes all those who showed up on time for the past year and a half and rewards those who haven't showed up in that long. Considering how easy it is to solo the rancor in less than 10 minutes and on auto, all you have to do is show up. And if you aren't willing to show up, fine, then don't complain about where you place.
I would totally support simming the raid if the guild currency and gear was top 3 instead of top 20. Yet the devs very conveniently boosted the amount of Han shards to make it more appealing to alot of guilds.
This is a case that is an example of how democracy can be oppressive to a group of individuals who go the extra mile to earn more and that's not example that this game should promote.
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It's not about the enthusiasm, I'd pick sim any day if the rewards were more reflective of the top than the middle. The thing that I'm pointing out is that the devs have put a lot of players in a very difficult position with this feature
A lot of people have responsibilities such as a job, family, etc. that makes it difficult to join a time that considers the most players
If you have an issue accepting that and raid simming and democracy, then just make your own guild with manual raid and run it with autocracy
Stop accusing me of things, you know nothing about me. Is there a new standard that we must abide by? Are suddenly supposed to accept receiving less rewards? No guild throws random raids at random times, each guild has a schedule and they launch raids at specific times that have been agreed upon previously, many guilds will even rotate those times to ensure that more people get their shot. I had to use alarms before to get in rancor at work, open the app, get in, press auto and do it. If you can't do at least that then why do you deserve more than another person who does that?
Don't start with selfishness and selflessness because that's an argument that can lead to all sorts of places. Nobody should have to like getting their payouts reduced in order to have someone else's slightly increased.
No matter how you perceive it, being part of a guild is inseparable from teamplay. Being able to score high in hSTR and expecting better rewards is one thing, but soloing rancor is just one button tap more than getting in you daily 600 to start raids.
Nobody tells you how to play, you can continue doing Rancor manually in a guild that is up for that. What you can't do is to enforce your will on the majority of a guild that voted in favor of simming. That raid is trivial by now and it's completely understandable that more people choose to sim it, when probably everybody in a 30m+ GP guild can solo it anyway. That 5 minute window is a real issue. You made a commitment to set an alarm before work. Yet others might already be in the middle of a business meeting by then, or driving to take kids to school, whatever. You see why it's not that simple.
Just a word of warning, though. If you do find yourself a guild of people that do Rancor manually (for other reasons than not having 35 Han Solo-s), you might experience that being able to solo that raid will not even guarantee top 30 rewards. And then simming will start to make sense.
Is this like... a real person? There’s no way a real person thinks like this 😂
I don't know about a real person, but it's a real troll for sure.
Ok Mr Undercover Dev
Do I really need to educate you on democracy vs republic son?
Coincidentally it happens that those who are active on soloing raids are the same people who carry others in TW and TB, the same people who pulled the weight of others when the guild was struggling to get HSTR done. Some people just care and others don't care as much, hard to see the ones who care get less and those who care less receive more
And guilds were made to help EVERYONE get stronger and that includes the weaker members.
Well I can't do anything about people's focuses and I don't blame them either, I'm just saying they should go through what everyone does if they are interested in the top tier rewards.
I'll give you an example, my imperial troopers are very strong, for a while now me and a few others are completing the IPD mission and some of us sometimes even beat the tier 6 special mission which is insanely hard. I've tracked the progress on those missions for a while now and I have seen very little progress by other members. I don't blame them, the past year has been rough with all the panic farms so that's understandable. However few other and I are contributing every time while others don't. I never said a word to those people cause I don't want to pressure them, but if they really cared about their account's progress they could show up and solo the rancor instead of posting 0s. Yeah not everything is black and white
I don't understand what you're trying to say honestly
Simming is actually throttling guilds overall. If people don't show up for a 5 minute auto raid they are probably not the types who will show up in TW or TB when their guilds need them. Most guilds have some players who contribute more overall, cutting them off the top 3/10 rewards is actually hurting the guild in guild events more, than giving the 30s and the 40s a bit more. Because the 30s and the 40s aren't the ones who will carry the guild in a hard TW
Spot on, thanks for doing that so I didn't have to
I just wanted to know if you are one of the oppresed snowflakes that's offended by -things- (basically everything).
You make is sound like showing up is easy. With only a 10 min window most people aren't gonna be able to reliably show up since they have lives outside of the game.
Not even remotely, but I have seen your type and alot in the recent years I'm not a fan either
Ah cool, then the feeling goes bothways. I'm just amused by your topic. Thanks for being capable of thinking the most obnoxious thing to get oppresed by. One would think oppresion points to something else entirely. But now we know better.
Let me start by saying that theoretically yes it's possible that all 50 members will do it but realistically it doesn't happen, if it does then do what you wish. Now back to the real world, let's say your guild is extreme, 40 people solo each and every rancor. That puts your average rank at 20 which mean simming doesn't do too much in your case. Considering most guilds don't have more than 30 players soloing I would say that the average rank is around 15 for those who solo, which is better than simming. Then we get to guilds where 20 solo and the average rank drops to 10. Even if that's the case, you're still bound by the bottom 30 0s who democratically elect not to do it manually.
This isn't a political forum, everything must be taken within the context of the game
This guy gets me
Then I would argue it's not possible to opress in a game. Hint: GAME