just when you think it's not possible to hate Disney even more

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  • Also Disney is charging $6.99/month (which will absolutely rise) but also a $69/year version too. Thats the one I will do, although i'm sure any rise will be after that first year expires.
  • Boo
    3444 posts Member
    YaeVizsla wrote: »
    the mandalorian looks way better than rise. both the Star Wars stories are awesome too and they fit within the old EU. Disney would have made more money not tossing it
    No. No, they wouldn't have.

    The EU was an unusable mess. Once upon a time, maybe the Thrawn trilogy could have been the next trilogy. That time is decades past.

    People complain that the intervening years are not adequately explained when what happened can be boiled down to, "The imperial remnants fled past the edges of unknown space, regrouped and rebuilt, then came back to be a threat again. The Rebellion built the New Republic that was kinda their jam, and it was not adequately militarized to stand against the First Order."

    Had they kept the EU, they would have had to explain the much more complex political situation between the New Republic and what was once the Empire. You've gotta explain what's going on with the Yuuzhan Vong enough to give context to what's happening to them in the wake of the events of the New Jedi Order series. We're in Super Saiyan Luku territory, where Luke bested a literal god and voiped a black hole with the Force; many story arcs revolved around keeping Luke away from the actual action until the end, lest he instantly fix everything. Chewie had a moon dropped on him. And so many characters have so much baggage.

    The most obvious central character were Disney to carry on the EU would be Jaina Solo Fel. Who requires the explanation that she is Jaina Solo Fel. Daughter of Han and Leia who became a Jedi is easy enough. The part where she is married to the friggin' Emperor? Not so much. And it dovetails you into the fact that the imperial remnants have consolidated as the Fel Empire, ruled by Jagged Fel, and all his baggage.

    Then you have prominent supporting characters with tons of baggage. Tenel Ka Djo is one of the most important Jedi post-NJO, and having her ties you into explaining the Hapes cluster and the Nightsister to audiences in a way that will satisfy both hardcore and casual fans.

    And as has been hanging over a lot of this, continuing the EU would have had to deal with the aftermath of the New Jedi Order series, which was at best a highly divisive series, and was where many long-time Star Wars fans quit the EU.

    Removing the EU from canon was the best decision they could make. Carrying it on would be unreasonable.

    Edit:
    Also, no. No, neither Star Wars story fits in the EU.

    The Death Star plans were a complex multi-prong intelligence operation in the EU with multiple battles to gain bits and pieces of the Death Star plans, triggered by Bail Organa, Mon Mothma, and Garm Bel Iblis being captured by the Empire and taken to the Death Star for execution, then rescued by Galen Marek a.k.a. Starkiller. Not a singular operation to retrieve the plans from Scariff. So Rogue One is out.

    And Solo: A Star Wars Story completely contradicts Han Solo's backstory. But for starters? In the EU, Han was an imperial pilot, graduating at the top of his class. Not a washout from flight school sent to infantry. Those stripes on his pants were Corellian Bloodstripes, an honor for serving with distinction. That's the problem with keeping the EU; everything's so closely defined and hodgepodge that there's no room to put anything.

    So instead they did away with the EU and created TLJ which split the fandom even more so than the New Jedi Order series ever did.

    I do agree there was little room for growth if Disney kept the EU, but they did not have to create the ST we got - they could have started a new trilogy in a complete different era, past or future and created fresh stories of their own.

    I would argue that Rogue One does fit perfectly into cannon, even with the story of Force Unleashed. The latter was in regard to the beginnings of the Rebel Alliance and had nothing to do with the Death Star - they had no real clue what the Death Star was as it was unfinished at that time.
  • Gifafi
    1530 posts Member
    Wait a minute, companies are charging for content now? And raising prices after years?? This is a real slap in the face to all the f2w.
  • Kisakee wrote: »
    kalidor wrote: »
    The cancellation of all of the Marvel series on Netflix due to Disney's new streaming service pretty much did it for me. At this point, things like ep9 are just salt in a wound I can't really feel anymore. Pretty unfortunate.

    This x1000
    Disney IS the empire...

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    You don't say..

    Where did you find this Kingdom Hearts 4 leak?
  • YaeVizsla wrote: »
    the mandalorian looks way better than rise. both the Star Wars stories are awesome too and they fit within the old EU. Disney would have made more money not tossing it
    No. No, they wouldn't have.

    The EU was an unusable mess. Once upon a time, maybe the Thrawn trilogy could have been the next trilogy. That time is decades past.

    People complain that the intervening years are not adequately explained when what happened can be boiled down to, "The imperial remnants fled past the edges of unknown space, regrouped and rebuilt, then came back to be a threat again. The Rebellion built the New Republic that was kinda their jam, and it was not adequately militarized to stand against the First Order."

    Had they kept the EU, they would have had to explain the much more complex political situation between the New Republic and what was once the Empire. You've gotta explain what's going on with the Yuuzhan Vong enough to give context to what's happening to them in the wake of the events of the New Jedi Order series. We're in Super Saiyan Luku territory, where Luke bested a literal god and voiped a black hole with the Force; many story arcs revolved around keeping Luke away from the actual action until the end, lest he instantly fix everything. Chewie had a moon dropped on him. And so many characters have so much baggage.

    The most obvious central character were Disney to carry on the EU would be Jaina Solo Fel. Who requires the explanation that she is Jaina Solo Fel. Daughter of Han and Leia who became a Jedi is easy enough. The part where she is married to the friggin' Emperor? Not so much. And it dovetails you into the fact that the imperial remnants have consolidated as the Fel Empire, ruled by Jagged Fel, and all his baggage.

    Then you have prominent supporting characters with tons of baggage. Tenel Ka Djo is one of the most important Jedi post-NJO, and having her ties you into explaining the Hapes cluster and the Nightsister to audiences in a way that will satisfy both hardcore and casual fans.

    And as has been hanging over a lot of this, continuing the EU would have had to deal with the aftermath of the New Jedi Order series, which was at best a highly divisive series, and was where many long-time Star Wars fans quit the EU.

    Removing the EU from canon was the best decision they could make. Carrying it on would be unreasonable.

    Edit:
    Also, no. No, neither Star Wars story fits in the EU.

    The Death Star plans were a complex multi-prong intelligence operation in the EU with multiple battles to gain bits and pieces of the Death Star plans, triggered by Bail Organa, Mon Mothma, and Garm Bel Iblis being captured by the Empire and taken to the Death Star for execution, then rescued by Galen Marek a.k.a. Starkiller. Not a singular operation to retrieve the plans from Scariff. So Rogue One is out.

    And Solo: A Star Wars Story completely contradicts Han Solo's backstory. But for starters? In the EU, Han was an imperial pilot, graduating at the top of his class. Not a washout from flight school sent to infantry. Those stripes on his pants were Corellian Bloodstripes, an honor for serving with distinction. That's the problem with keeping the EU; everything's so closely defined and hodgepodge that there's no room to put anything.

    so jw in your opinion it's ok for Disney to buy something, erase years of its history and replace it with trash just because they can and then we have to accept that and keep paying them for it like bloody sheep?
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