Who wants this falcon meta gone already......šŸ¤®

Who wants this falcon meta gone already......šŸ¤® 33 votes

Yes
63%
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No
36%
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  • KyJoe_Cool
    1873 posts Member
    No
    B)
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  • Rath_Tarr
    4944 posts Member
    I like Bananas. B)
  • DarthKoon
    449 posts Member
    Yes
    B)

    Why not?
  • Dk_rek
    3299 posts Member
    No
    Well I said no for one reason...Whatever replaces it will be 3x as worse than what we have now.

    Now I DO miss the old days of being able to run almost any fleet you wanted.

    Your going to get a Sep capital... If it's GG then he is going to be just about everyone's first Gear 13 toon.

    But whatever no matter how good he is I might wait... Because everone will expend the majority of their prestige banked on new capital.... then when malak comes around the 2nd time DR or malak will get a capital ship which destroys rebels and Seps.... everyone will spend months grinding prestige and I'll be sith bombing everyone HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
  • KyJoe_Cool
    1873 posts Member
    No
    B)

    Why not?

    I rank top 25-30 everyday in fleet. Lol. Your point?
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  • Mzee
    1777 posts Member
    Yes
    I am in rotation for 1 in my shard and this meta is awful. 50/50 run falcon and 49/50 run ackbar. They keep talking about wanting diversity, but they just keep making it worse.
  • MasterSeedy
    4992 posts Member
    No
    I voted no, but really I don't care.

    I run HT, Silencer, & Ghost under Thrawn, then I bring in 2-3 reinforcements.

    I typically start with Phantom II, then the Falcon or Cassian as needed. Every once in a while I bring in Cassian first for the dispel and the chance to quickly get rid of the enemy Falcon - it really depends on the tactical situation for that one. I've got Carth, TIE Adv, Xanadu Blood and a couple other ships that aren't bad in the last reinforcement spot, but I never get to them. A couple times I brought in Carth just to try out that ship when things were already going fine. I like it. It's got the advantages of Cassian + adds chaff, but it doesn't have rebel synergy. Since I don't use rebel synergy until the Falcon gets out there, and I can't have Cassian and Falcon both on the field until turn 5 at the earliest with my setup, Carth is entirely serviceable... but I don't have T3 geared up yet (stuck at g9 waiting for a turn to be priority), so Cassian it is.

    I always finish 1st (well, this weekend I was busy and ended up 9th, but I'd had 50 days in a row #1 at payout before that. #1 really is my default finish.

    I can certainly bring in an Ackbar led fleet and crush my opponents with that, but I like my set up. The people who can't make things work with anything other than Ackbar & starting Falcon in initial 3 might be bored, but I'm happy enough.

    If the Falcon ever became mandatory for hitting #1, that would bother me, but it hasn't happened yet.

    The thing to remember is that just because everyone else is running Ackbar/Falcon doesn't mean you have to. It really isn't as dominant as the Revan meta in Arena.
  • TVF
    36518 posts Member
    The thing to remember is that just because everyone else is running Ackbar/Falcon doesn't mean you have to. It really isn't as dominant as the Revan meta in Arena.

    https://swgoh.gg/stats/meta-report/

    https://swgoh.gg/stats/fleet-meta-report/

    Yeah, not really.
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  • Yes
    Facts saying it all right there. I can take first in my shard which is Hugh the top guys putting out 460k power fleets. I run mace which makes me 1 of the 36 mace team in the top 50 out of over 13000 spots. I have days I beat 5 in a row given itā€™s still not easy for me by any means and days I lose 5 in a row to the same guys iv beaten all week the rng based damage and assists are skill less you are either going to win or lose the battle before you even load in.

    My shard before the falcon meta was great a lot of fun almost seen every single ship in play with teams and roosters changeing day to day. A week out from falcon we even had 4 maces holding in top 10 which were the whales šŸ³ who had everything just playing around enjoying all the game had to offer now Iā€™m lucky to see more than 10 different ships a week. We now have over 30 of the top 50 playing falcon of which 26 are in the top 30 spots. Fleets around 340k at the lowest beating 400k plus fleets no Balance to be had in that.

    Just hope they will make positive changes going forward I donā€™t want to see a meta at all the more viable teams and ships the beater.
  • Dk_rek
    3299 posts Member
    No
    TVF wrote: Ā»
    The thing to remember is that just because everyone else is running Ackbar/Falcon doesn't mean you have to. It really isn't as dominant as the Revan meta in Arena.

    https://swgoh.gg/stats/meta-report/

    https://swgoh.gg/stats/fleet-meta-report/

    Yeah, not really.

    Yeah when I read Masters post I was thinking the same thing. Also out of allllll those fleet shards has to be a few mafias nice enough to remove their god teams letting people win with those 1%'ers....

    Don't get me wrong I"m sure people can take first without falcon....but those 4:30 fights after grinding on arena shard...nope...
  • KyJoe_Cool
    1873 posts Member
    No
    AntiFunn wrote: Ā»
    B)

    Why not?

    I rank top 25-30 everyday in fleet. Lol. Your point?

    Wow. I don't have those and rank at 15-20 per day

    Gratz. Iā€™ll keep my falcon however. Will 7 star it when it comes back.

    Yeah I forgot to mention that mine is only 5 star too and I still manage to rank that high. lol
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  • MasterSeedy
    4992 posts Member
    No
    @TVF:

    The facts are the facts, and I suppose that in one sense of the word that fleet really is more "dominant" than Revan was...

    But by "dominant" I really meant "unbeatable" or "very difficult to beat" using any other team. I take 1st literally every day running my non-meta fleet (Thrawn, Silencer, Ghost, & HT) (only one time in past 30 days have I finished other than 1st - I finished 9th, and that was because I a family emergency came up and I literally didn't fight any fleet arena battles that day).

    Maybe I'm a unicorn, but I find beating those squads just isn't difficult. I use ghost to put stealth on silencer and then it doesn't matter if the HT taunt gets dispelled. HT lasts long enough to start bringing in reinforcements and at that point if HT is doing well enough to last another round you bring in P2, if it's not, bring in Cassian and quickly kill the enemy Falcon.

    After their falcon is down, their entire fleet falls apart.

    With JKR I really can't beat them more than 20% of the time on offense with any squad other than my JKR squad. Against Ackbar/Falcon I win every time with my "non-meta" fleet.

    For me, the difference is pretty vast.
  • YetiYeti
    434 posts Member
    No
    No. They're just going to make another "must farm to compete" meta. It'll be all the new meta team and you're gunna have to fight mirrors. At least the falcon meta, you can take out the falcon relatively easily when you're attacking.
  • Yes
    You scrubs clearly arenā€™t playing big teams the teams in my shard **** all over a maxed out double zeta hounds tooth with six dot mods before you even get a reinforcement off a lot of the time. The out put of damage is a joke and rng can literal decide to take a dump on your chest when ever it wants, turning five wins into 5 loses just because it felt like it. The falcon was the worst thing to ever be released it the game and needs to f**k off
  • Hortus
    614 posts Member
    MaceMeta wrote: Ā»
    You scrubs clearly arenā€™t playing big teams the teams in my shard **** all over a maxed out double zeta hounds tooth with six dot mods before you even get a reinforcement off a lot of the time. The out put of damage is a joke and rng can literal decide to take a dump on your chest when ever it wants, turning five wins into 5 loses just because it felt like it. The falcon was the worst thing to ever be released it the game and needs to f**k off

    If your's setup slower than HMF you are going to have bad times, yes. But HMF setups aren't really very fast, and there are a couple of fleets which can consistently beat it on offense.
  • Drazhar
    784 posts Member
    Yes
    Problem is, you know that with a meta this bad (unbeatable ship with enfys nest but ship that even taunts) they can either slightly nerf these ships or make an even worse meta. EA is not new to these things. You know, destroying itself and its gaming community in the attempt to "improve" itself.
  • TVF
    36518 posts Member
    Yawn!
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  • Yes
    This meta is total sheet iv hate playing ships every single day now I can make first but in no way is a fun game if they want players to quit then keep things the same and clearly they want to slow release the new capital ship instead of fix an issue that should never have been made in the first place, Iā€™ll never spend a cent on this game till itā€™s fixed.
  • Dk_rek
    3299 posts Member
    No
    MaceMeta wrote: Ā»
    This meta is total sheet iv hate playing ships every single day now I can make first but in no way is a fun game if they want players to quit then keep things the same and clearly they want to slow release the new capital ship instead of fix an issue that should never have been made in the first place, Iā€™ll never spend a cent on this game till itā€™s fixed.

    There you go in 14 months there will be a new meta when you unlock the new capital ship !!!!!!!!!!

    You finally got the end of the falcon..... see you there !!!

  • TVF wrote: Ā»
    The thing to remember is that just because everyone else is running Ackbar/Falcon doesn't mean you have to. It really isn't as dominant as the Revan meta in Arena.

    https://swgoh.gg/stats/meta-report/

    https://swgoh.gg/stats/fleet-meta-report/

    Yeah, not really.

    Shout out to the 4 who were in first with bb8, hermit Yoda, CWC and NS zombie lol
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