Grand Arena Championships – GP Divisions [MEGA]

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  • Thryss
    8 posts Member
    edited June 22
    The biggest issue I have seen so far is the differences in max banners you can receive across your division setting up many players with an advantage/disadvantage in their division.

    For example in div 2 (3.8-4.5)
    -if you have 3.8-4.0 setting a defense yields 540 banners
    -if you have 4.0-4.5 setting a defense yields 720 banners
    (I haven’t verified the exact gp where this separation occurs, so the threshold is estimated)
    Div1 does not have this problem, but it is an issue with Div2

    While i agree it is important to vary the number teams you set on defense based upon - by not aligning the divisions with the number of teams set on defense internally divides the division and immediately sets a large portion of players at a banner disadvantage. This does not appear to be a fair or balanced playing field.
  • Stokat
    493 posts Member
    edited June 22
    No_Try wrote: »
    How does your match-ups look? It's extremely close for me, close to my detriment as previous matchmaking was giving me rather easy opponents even though I'm an extreme fluff-er (lol can't even say it.

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    It looks pretty much like it used to be in regular GAs. A few really easy, a couple of even opponents and 1-2 really challenging/hard.

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    This is some **** matchmaking. Opponent is 200k gp stronger and more than double my g12, and it seems as though I'll have to set 6 teams instead of 5. 'Lean' accounts are trash.
  • I am currently at 2.9m GP. I have 10 g12 chars and have 14 zetas. I am matched against a player with 3.6m GP with 35 zetas and 38 gear 12 chars. YOUR MATCHMAKING SUCKS CG. The division clearly shows the range of GP for division 4 to be 2.5m-3.09m GP. I WANT ANSWERS, but more important i want it FIXED. This is UNFAIR AF. Here is proof. fqss6owsumyh.png
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  • No_Try
    4033 posts Member
    Exactly same gp as you. Matchmaking on further parameters doesn't look in effects and beyond gp it looks as random as it was on GA.

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  • Different squad number in division makes weaker players behind in number of 180 points per round that makes 540 points per GA that makes 2160 points difference per championship, that's wrong, there should be equal chances in same division
  • Saada
    202 posts Member
    edited June 22
    Broodzero wrote: »
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    This is some **** matchmaking. Opponent is 200k gp stronger and more than double my g12, and it seems as though I'll have to set 6 teams instead of 5. 'Lean' accounts are trash.

    What are you complaining about. You have revan and he does not. Set it on defence in the territory with two squads, put trash in all your other territories and keep everyone else for offense. Sick of all these complaints.

    As for everyone else who are versing different divisions (as I am). I assume this goes with the improvement in matchmaking, you might be in div 4 because of your gp but you might have only 1 g12 so being matched with a person in div 5 is fair and I'm pretty sure when this happens you only have to set squads that match up with the lowest division.
  • KaiK
    16 posts Member
    I agree, players with higher Numbers of squads that are required for setting defence get extra 180 points per round + possibility to get another +/- 120 during attack phase. This is not an equal chance to win the champioship, i think it is even impossible. This should be changed.
  • hb3d
    3 posts Member
    I agree--number of squads needs to be consistent per division for it to be fair. It's not fair if people who use fleets lose out ~1000 banners because they can't set as many squads. Each division should have the same chances of getting banners for it to be a fair competition. If that means you need more divisions, so some higher GP people will deploy less squads, then do so.

    I would hope this is exactly the kind of issue/bug that they'll fix after this exhibition round :/
  • This is very big issue!
    Division 2 and 3 are mixed in GA battles.

    Im in D2, and on GA fighting with G3.
    As a result, I get "540 Lifetime" for setting DEF (max 6 teams), while many in Division 2 have "720 Lifetime" (8 teams).

    As a result, I will NEVER even be in the top 1000.

    My example.

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  • So im in div 4 my oppnent is in div 3 is this how ga tourney is?like people in lower divs challenge people in higher divisions or are are supposed to battle within your division?
  • DocDoom
    361 posts Member
    At first I thought that was something that needed fixing but the more I think about it the more reasonable it is.my situation for example, I am just barely in division one. If all I faced were other division 1 players, everybody would have a higher GP than me. at least this way there's a better chance I will have some even matches or God forbid enjoy an advantage once in awhile.
  • No_Try
    4033 posts Member
    DocDoom wrote: »
    At first I thought that was something that needed fixing but the more I think about it the more reasonable it is.my situation for example, I am just barely in division one. If all I faced were other division 1 players, everybody would have a higher GP than me. at least this way there's a better chance I will have some even matches or God forbid enjoy an advantage once in awhile.

    Given that there's also a ship zone, that's whom you'll be facing though.
  • DocDoom wrote: »
    At first I thought that was something that needed fixing but the more I think about it the more reasonable it is.my situation for example, I am just barely in division one. If all I faced were other division 1 players, everybody would have a higher GP than me. at least this way there's a better chance I will have some even matches or God forbid enjoy an advantage once in awhile.

    You're wrong.
    If you face an opponent from another division (lower) you automatically get LESS points, than people from your division fighting with people from the same division.

    In this event, it's all about getting points and getting promoted to higher leagues. If you have fewer points then you have less chance of promotion, and this is synonymous with BORROWER prizes.
  • Saada
    202 posts Member
    edited June 22
    DarthNosfi wrote: »
    DocDoom wrote: »
    At first I thought that was something that needed fixing but the more I think about it the more reasonable it is.my situation for example, I am just barely in division one. If all I faced were other division 1 players, everybody would have a higher GP than me. at least this way there's a better chance I will have some even matches or God forbid enjoy an advantage once in awhile.

    You're wrong.
    If you face an opponent from another division (lower) you automatically get LESS points, than people from your division fighting with people from the same division.

    In this event, it's all about getting points and getting promoted to higher leagues. If you have fewer points then you have less chance of promotion, and this is synonymous with BORROWER prizes.

    No you don't have less chance. What you lose from setting defences can be made up in winning on offence. If you set 8 but have no chance of beating a squad, overall you'll lose points compared to setting 6 on defence and actually have a chance of beat squads, winning territories and winning the match up. Think of the big picture......
  • Mr_Sausage
    1869 posts Member
    I'm just going to go with the flow and do my best wherever they put me. Just like before. There will always be a stronger team than you. If this process is even somewhat improved from before then that's a good start.
  • Saada wrote: »
    DarthNosfi wrote: »
    DocDoom wrote: »
    At first I thought that was something that needed fixing but the more I think about it the more reasonable it is.my situation for example, I am just barely in division one. If all I faced were other division 1 players, everybody would have a higher GP than me. at least this way there's a better chance I will have some even matches or God forbid enjoy an advantage once in awhile.

    You're wrong.
    If you face an opponent from another division (lower) you automatically get LESS points, than people from your division fighting with people from the same division.

    In this event, it's all about getting points and getting promoted to higher leagues. If you have fewer points then you have less chance of promotion, and this is synonymous with BORROWER prizes.

    No you don't have less chance. What you lose from setting defences can be made up in winning on offence. If you set 8 but have no chance of beating a squad, overall you'll lose points compared to setting 6 on defence and actually have a chance of beat squads, winning territories and winning the match up. Think of the big picture......

    It can not be made up on offense. This needs to be fixed. I cleared all 6 battles all 6 with undermanned squads and still had 500 points less than others in my same division, some who have much less character total GP than I do.
  • Liath wrote: »
    Who are you to decide how the game is intended to be played?
    A paying customer?
  • I told my friends to download the game and who to farm so they have a lean competitive roster. the process hasn't been frustrating 😤
    You just described "accounts which are intentionally sandbagged from the start." The fact that that skew makes them more competitive is my main point.

  • Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Some people have the most fitting usernames....
    Some people fail to advance the conversation...

  • Sarbitar
    190 posts Member
    Hmm so I've not read all of the post here, but we are returning to matching by gp with FLEET while there are no fleet battles right? Divisions does not take that into account.

    That's cool :). Love to make some orbital bombardment unfortunately my ships will stay in the hangar.

    Or maybe I missed something in all those messages?
  • TVF
    17944 posts Member
    Liath wrote: »
    Who are you to decide how the game is intended to be played?
    A paying customer?

    Paying customer? That doesn't let you decide everything lol.

    I can go into Burger King and demand to buy a puppy as a paying customer, but it's not gonna get me anywhere.
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  • BobcatSkywalker
    1100 posts Member
    edited June 25
    Sarbitar wrote: »
    Hmm so I've not read all of the post here, but we are returning to matching by gp with FLEET while there are no fleet battles right? Divisions does not take that into account.

    That's cool :). Love to make some orbital bombardment unfortunately my ships will stay in the hangar.

    Or maybe I missed something in all those messages?

    This would ensure no cross division GA matchups which is good if that's what Erik post means.

    Cross division play was a progression problem since it penalized players who heavily invested in ships by limiting their division progression by giving them less character combat to do compared to other players with the same total gp who ignored ships completely.

    Neglecting a game mode completely should not be rewarded. That's like paper zombie but for a whole mode of the game.
  • SNAKEMAN
    462 posts Member
    I am a 4.5 mill GP player who was just put in a bracket with two 5.3 mill GP players and five 5mill GP players!?! Makes no sense CG! I hope this is a bug.
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  • darklinkto
    8 posts Member
    edited June 25
    I am 2.9M Gp vs a 3.6M Go. We are division 4 and 3 mix in the same table. Is that normal ?
  • Nightlores
    1604 posts Member
    What is happening now? Normally GP difference is really minimal (even in the last cancelled GA), but now the range is extremely large. Please fix this !?!

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  • Nikoms565
    11983 posts Member
    edited June 25
    I just posted this in another thread. The GAC matchup algorithim is worse than the old one.

    The person I am against in round 1 has 220k more character GP than me (2.882 million to 2.661 million). Has a 7*, g12+5 Malak (I don't have Malak at all). Mod-wise he has:
    68 15+speed mods to my 36.
    57 100+offense mods to my 26.

    This is not an improvement. This is far worse than any matchup I have ever faced in any previous GA. It's not better - it's worse. @CG_SBCrumb Please have them fix this game mode - especially if this is going to be the long term "dominant" mode to replace arena.

    That's roughly a 10% higher GP and double the number of good speed and offense mods. If that's "fixed" can we go back to broken please?
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  • Having issues also. Multiple players in my division have GP well above the posted limit for division 4
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