Cheaters / hackers

CallumRM92

In regards to the title and latest dev announcements, how do people actually cheat/hack? What are we suppose to look out for?

jkray622

Players who have all lvl 1 bounty hunters but a 7* Chewie. Players who set all their strongest squads on defense but somehow managed to kill your Jedi Revan squad with trash.

I expect there will be lots of players who lose and just report their opponent for cheating just in case.

LynnYoda

level 1 bounty hunters with 7* chewie or level 1 ewoks with 7* 3po would be an obvious cheat
other than that if your not sure then ask (without names etc )

TVF

CallumRM92 wrote: »

In regards to the title and latest dev announcements, how do people actually cheat/hack? What are we suppose to look out for?

Is "what are we suppose to look out for?" the new "asking for a friend?"

KueChael

I don’t think we have to look out for much more then inferior teams somehow holding on D.
The data they collect should do most of the looking out.

jhbuchholz

KueChael wrote: »

I don’t think we have to look out for much more then inferior teams somehow holding on D.
The data they collect should do most of the looking out.

That seems... backward. Most of the bending of the rules / game mechanics occurs when the player has control, when they're on offense. And since we are given no glimpse into what they used on offense we have to guess.

In another thread the recommendation was to simply report anything you suspect. Basically, if you don't think you should have lost and don't know why you lost, report it. Let Leviathan and Lucifer's Daddy sort it out.

Slippyfist

jhbuchholz wrote: »

KueChael wrote: »

I don’t think we have to look out for much more then inferior teams somehow holding on D.
The data they collect should do most of the looking out.

That seems... backward. Most of the bending of the rules / game mechanics occurs when the player has control, when they're on offense. And since we are given no glimpse into what they used on offense we have to guess.

In another thread the recommendation was to simply report anything you suspect. Basically, if you don't think you should have lost and don't know why you lost, report it. Let Leviathan and Lucifer's Daddy sort it out.

This. Their new software should be able to handle the bulk of it, but if you see something really really strange, like people getting millions of damage with a trash team in HSTR, you can report it to a Leviathan or Lucifer's Daddy through pm. I'm sure they get pounded with a LOT though so I wouldnt send them every little thing. Just my 0.02

KueChael

My point was, we shouldn’t be guessing what they used. Only worry about what’s in front of us when we are on Offense.
Let them read the data, and make judgments.

Bulldog1205

KueChael wrote: »

My point was, we shouldn’t be guessing what they used. Only worry about what’s in front of us when we are on Offense.
Let them read the data, and make judgments.

I don’t have confidence in any system that doesn’t explain to me how it works. It makes me believe that the reason they aren’t telling us how they catch cheaters is because it doesn’t catch everyone, and it would be easier to get around if we knew how it worked. So while I’m hopeful that more cheaters will be caught, I’m definitely not optimistic that it will catch everyone or even the majority of people.

jhbuchholz

Bulldog1205 wrote: »

KueChael wrote: »

My point was, we shouldn’t be guessing what they used. Only worry about what’s in front of us when we are on Offense.
Let them read the data, and make judgments.

I don’t have confidence in any system that doesn’t explain to me how it works. It makes me believe that the reason they aren’t telling us how they catch cheaters is because it doesn’t catch everyone, and it would be easier to get around if we knew how it worked. So while I’m hopeful that more cheaters will be caught, I’m definitely not optimistic that it will catch everyone or even the majority of people.

Agreed. This feels very Wizard of Oz-ish. Ignore the man behind the curtain.

I'm hopeful but the responses of "don't guess, let the system do it's job" and "knowing what was used against you won't help and it will give away my very secret offensive strategies" are less than satisfactory.

No_Try

KueChael wrote: »

I don’t think we have to look out for much more then inferior teams somehow holding on D.
The data they collect should do most of the looking out.

I don't think it's even possible to cheat a defense. If you're attacking me whole affair takes place in your device with the data pulled from the server. It's not mine anymore.

APX_919

No_Try wrote: »

KueChael wrote: »

I don’t think we have to look out for much more then inferior teams somehow holding on D.
The data they collect should do most of the looking out.

I don't think it's even possible to cheat a defense. If you're attacking me whole affair takes place in your device with the data pulled from the server. It's not mine anymore.

Absolutely impossible to cheat on defense. That is server side, not client side. If inferior teams are winning on D, they are being fought with more inferior teams on O.

Kyno

The discussion of how someone cheats is not allowed by the Forum Guidelines, this discussion will not be allowed on the open forum. Please feel free to direct message CG_Leviathan of you have any questions or if you suspect cheating.

APX_919 wrote: »

No_Try wrote: »

KueChael wrote: »

I don’t think we have to look out for much more then inferior teams somehow holding on D.
The data they collect should do most of the looking out.

I don't think it's even possible to cheat a defense. If you're attacking me whole affair takes place in your device with the data pulled from the server. It's not mine anymore.

Absolutely impossible to cheat on defense. That is server side, not client side. If inferior teams are winning on D, they are being fought with more inferior teams on O.

Also this. Let's keep this in mind.