Gac why consider the whole galactic power if we don't have fleets inside?
Actually i like the idea of gac, and maybe i don't understand something... but what is the matter of making the divisions considering the fleet power if we can only use the ground characters?
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This means that if it is 5v5 Characters only, matchmaking will only calculate Character GP. If it includes Characters and Fleet, matchmaking will include both Character and Fleet GP.
However, my counterpoint to this is that really the GP metric for divisions is really arbitrary. It doesn't matter too much on what it's based on in regards to divisions because more than likely one person's character GP should be proportionate to that person's ship GP. And this kind of balances out across the board so it really doesn't matter.
Matchmaking in this case is the real factor. And going forward it looks like that should be absolutely sublime. There of course will be edge cases with this however, especially if you keep getting promoted to higher leagues. The better you do, the smaller the pool of people you are put into. At the top, the matchmaking will start to breakdown. But for most of us, matchmaking should be pretty good. Time will tell.
It’s not affecting your matchmaking if ships aren’t involved in the event.
Your fleet counting is a good thing. This ends my TED Talk.
We dont know yet if it will affect you or not. Because if you will be matched only with ppl in your division than ppl with more char GP and less fleet GP will have advantage over ppl with less char GP and more fleet GP.
False. They took ship GP out of matchmaking for GAs with no ships awhile back.
I think it's because this is only an exhibition to test that everything works. For this one week period, it seems wrong because the grand arena IS the championship, and they chose to run a GA map that doesn't include ships. But in the future there will be multiple weeks of GAs, some with ships, that will go into the championship standings. So I'd rather they test now for how it needs to work after this relatively meaningless exhibition.
Total GP (includes fleet) - used to place players in divisions for rewards. This will be fixed for the whole event (Normally 4 rounds with 1 week off)
Character GP - used for matchmaking when no fleets are involved in the match. Reevaluated after each round (a round being the 3 matches in a single week)
Exactly
This is a major design flaw.
Every GA that has no ships I'm matched vs division 3 people but I need division 2 points to move up Leagues.
This means I have less defense and Offense battles and my league progression is limited in GAC (I only have 6 vs other people with 8)
This is unfair punishment for investing in ships.
Dude stop trying to use logic. These are the same cg apologists on every single discussion, it's so bad, just ignore them. Just look at any random discussion, they will always defend cg , no matter what. Even when they are pretending not too early on in the issue.
I didn’t defend CG here, I simply pointed out the facts. And if you do extensive research, you’ll also find the same complainers in every discussion...
Unless you're saying not including it in forming divisions for Grand Arenas Championships that don't include ships is a dumb move--in which case I disagree but see your reasoning, so agree to disagree!
I don't know. I'm of two minds about it. On the one hand, on the surface level, it sure as hell looks like a disadvantage since you'll progress slower.
But, on the other hand, if they measured just character GP for the tournament you would be in a lower division and get worse rewards.
So either your fleet is hindering your progression or it's inflating your divisional rewards, depending on whether you see the glass has half empty or half full. Like, you're either looking at it from the point of view of a rank 2 person playing against (some) rank 3s and getting rank 3 progress, or you should be a rank 3 player but you're getting rank 2 rewards.
Potentially, since you're being matched down a lower division, you're going to win more, too, and winning each round gives 1000 of whatever we're calling those points. So if you get one more win out of that sub-GA than you would have had you gotten mathched purely against your division, you're profiting a little. That's hard to measure, obviously, because we can't peek into the alternate timeline and see how you would have done. It's also hard to measure because you're still being paired up against people with a comparable roster to yours.
But when all else fails, just figure it the way I do--Everyone's going to get hit by this equally in the long run. You got matched down this time (or you're getting matched up all the time, as I said, half-full/half-empty) but next week will be someone else's turn...
First off no one is matched down I fight people with equal character GP so I have no advantage getting points or winning my battles. both me and opponent had 2.5m gp.
Secondly people with less character GP than me got to place 8 teams in matchups vs opponents who also invested a lot in toons. Guys with 2.2 or 2.3m gp.
So the determining factor in me placing 6 vs their 8 was simply matchmaking.
Everyone getting hit by this in the long run is correct so its fair to everyone in that sense.
I just expected the PvP competitive mode to actually be competitive and not determined by how many times I can avoid a limiting matchup of 6 areas and actually get to place 8 teams.
There's no strategy at all in that. Just give me a Sim button and call it PvP if that's the
Best level competition they can do.