Total Shame

Wrathe
96 posts Member
It's a total shame that this game has so much depth potential and instead uses the lemming model for the meta.

This game is just mods.

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  • Emguy
    255 posts Member
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  • Its a total shame that this thread has so much constructive criticism potential and instead just complains that "the devs are bad and I (OP) could design a much better game" without providing any actual flaws, issues, or ways to improve the game.

    This thread is just useless complaints
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  • Nihion
    3009 posts Member
    Its a total shame that this thread has so much constructive criticism potential and instead just complains that "the devs are bad and I (OP) could design a much better game" without providing any actual flaws, issues, or ways to improve the game.

    This thread is just useless complaints

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  • Atzel
    54 posts Member
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  • Yeah, they shouldn't have mods. Everyone should have the exact same characters without mods so that every battle is just RNG. That would be AWESOME, lol.
  • Stenun
    684 posts Member
    Yeah, they shouldn't have mods. Everyone should have the exact same characters without mods so that every battle is just RNG. That would be AWESOME, lol.

    As opposed to the RNG of mod farming? Yeah, that's so much better. /sarcasm


    Not that I'm taking the side of the OP but the argument that without mods the game would just be RNG is a complete fudge given the RNG nature of mods themselves.
  • Wrathe
    96 posts Member
    Yeah, they shouldn't have mods. Everyone should have the exact same characters without mods so that every battle is just RNG. That would be AWESOME, lol.

    Stenun replied w/ what I was going to say.
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  • Wrathe
    96 posts Member
    Its a total shame that this thread has so much constructive criticism potential and instead just complains that "the devs are bad and I (OP) could design a much better game" without providing any actual flaws, issues, or ways to improve the game.

    This thread is just useless complaints

    My post didn't complain about the devs once, just stating it's a shame that so much depth potential is in this game yet it's instead Lemmings.

    My issue mainly centers around Squad Arena. I just spent the last 2 months gearing up my GR team, full Zeta's, etc. and it's virtually worthless because Malak can last stand the entire team.

    "So run Malak!"

    Can't, don't have +160 spd mod sets, so it's auto loss.

    With so many characters and abilities, the game is kind of like a MTG (Magic The Gathering) system and could have a ton of counter-play. Instead, it's Lemmings, just do whatever you're told to do (it'll likely be pay-walled).

    It's Malak or bust. It makes for completely boring game play. Especially when the only differentiating factor is mods. So you either won the Mod Roulette, or you didn't. That in itself is what determines your success.

    Of course, if I said all this to begin w/, you'd have just said TLDR.
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  • you spent 2 months farming a worthless team?

    Spend next 2 months farming Malak...

    you can unlock malak just in time for when in 3 months a Malak counter will be released that wrecks Malak teams.

    This game has been like this since 2017.
  • Wrathe
    96 posts Member
    you spent 2 months farming a worthless team?

    Spend next 2 months farming Malak...

    you can unlock malak just in time for when in 3 months a Malak counter will be released that wrecks Malak teams.

    This game has been like this since 2017.

    "So run Malak"

    P.S. I have Malak
  • Wrathe wrote: »
    you spent 2 months farming a worthless team?

    Spend next 2 months farming Malak...

    you can unlock malak just in time for when in 3 months a Malak counter will be released that wrecks Malak teams.

    This game has been like this since 2017.

    "So run Malak"

    P.S. I have Malak

    The answer to all your problems is farm mods then.
  • Wrathe
    96 posts Member
    Wrathe wrote: »
    you spent 2 months farming a worthless team?

    Spend next 2 months farming Malak...

    you can unlock malak just in time for when in 3 months a Malak counter will be released that wrecks Malak teams.

    This game has been like this since 2017.

    "So run Malak"

    P.S. I have Malak

    The answer to all your problems is farm mods then.



    So you agree w/ my original point.

    "The game is just mods."
  • leef
    13458 posts Member
    Wrathe wrote: »
    Wrathe wrote: »
    you spent 2 months farming a worthless team?

    Spend next 2 months farming Malak...

    you can unlock malak just in time for when in 3 months a Malak counter will be released that wrecks Malak teams.

    This game has been like this since 2017.

    "So run Malak"

    P.S. I have Malak

    The answer to all your problems is farm mods then.



    So you agree w/ my original point.

    "The game is just mods."

    Just out of curiousity, would you rather have amazing mods but always be behind the meta, or would you rather be on top of the meta but with lesser mods?
    If you had to think about that question it kinda proves that this game isn't "just mods".
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  • 3+ year player still running health mods, you make no sense to me. You must be really bad if you think this game is just mods lol
  • Wrathe
    96 posts Member
    casper1jr wrote: »
    3+ year player still running health mods, you make no sense to me. You must be really bad if you think this game is just mods lol

    With all due respect, I'm talking top end, very old Arena Shard.

    I really don't mean to be snide w/ that, I looked at your link and there's a huge difference between rank 292 and rank 1 in requirements.
  • Wrathe
    96 posts Member
    leef wrote: »
    Wrathe wrote: »
    Wrathe wrote: »
    you spent 2 months farming a worthless team?

    Spend next 2 months farming Malak...

    you can unlock malak just in time for when in 3 months a Malak counter will be released that wrecks Malak teams.

    This game has been like this since 2017.

    "So run Malak"

    P.S. I have Malak

    The answer to all your problems is farm mods then.



    So you agree w/ my original point.

    "The game is just mods."

    Just out of curiousity, would you rather have amazing mods but always be behind the meta, or would you rather be on top of the meta but with lesser mods?
    If you had to think about that question it kinda proves that this game isn't "just mods".

    Thanks for reply, you're right, in a way.

    I actually listed two issues, Lemming mentality and mods and then recapped it to, "this game is just mods".
    I guess I did that because I figure we can all be lemmings and follow the meta, most top end players do. The only variety at the top is mods, which was where I was coming from.

    Touche though, you're technically correct if you ignore the rest of my OP.
  • Nihion
    3009 posts Member
    Wrathe wrote: »
    leef wrote: »
    Wrathe wrote: »
    Wrathe wrote: »
    you spent 2 months farming a worthless team?

    Spend next 2 months farming Malak...

    you can unlock malak just in time for when in 3 months a Malak counter will be released that wrecks Malak teams.

    This game has been like this since 2017.

    "So run Malak"

    P.S. I have Malak

    The answer to all your problems is farm mods then.



    So you agree w/ my original point.

    "The game is just mods."

    Just out of curiousity, would you rather have amazing mods but always be behind the meta, or would you rather be on top of the meta but with lesser mods?
    If you had to think about that question it kinda proves that this game isn't "just mods".

    Thanks for reply, you're right, in a way.

    I actually listed two issues, Lemming mentality and mods and then recapped it to, "this game is just mods".
    I guess I did that because I figure we can all be lemmings and follow the meta, most top end players do. The only variety at the top is mods, which was where I was coming from.

    Touche though, you're technically correct if you ignore the rest of my OP.

    Take my advice:

    Sit back, slap on some trash defense mods, slide back to 300, and enjoy your life. I don’t catch the meta, but I still have my sanity ;)
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  • CCyrilS
    4902 posts Member
    Wrathe wrote: »
    Its a total shame that this thread has so much constructive criticism potential and instead just complains that "the devs are bad and I (OP) could design a much better game" without providing any actual flaws, issues, or ways to improve the game.

    This thread is just useless complaints

    My post didn't complain about the devs once, just stating it's a shame that so much depth potential is in this game yet it's instead Lemmings.

    My issue mainly centers around Squad Arena. I just spent the last 2 months gearing up my GR team, full Zeta's, etc. and it's virtually worthless because Malak can last stand the entire team.

    "So run Malak!"

    Can't, don't have +160 spd mod sets, so it's auto loss.

    With so many characters and abilities, the game is kind of like a MTG (Magic The Gathering) system and could have a ton of counter-play. Instead, it's Lemmings, just do whatever you're told to do (it'll likely be pay-walled).

    It's Malak or bust. It makes for completely boring game play. Especially when the only differentiating factor is mods. So you either won the Mod Roulette, or you didn't. That in itself is what determines your success.

    Of course, if I said all this to begin w/, you'd have just said TLDR.

    To beat Drevan and Malak you actually need a slow Padme, so mods are less of an issue. Try looking up some strategy.



    This one is my favorite, but there are several. In 2 months of gearing up GR, you should have invested 5min into research.
  • Wrathe
    96 posts Member
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Wrathe wrote: »
    Its a total shame that this thread has so much constructive criticism potential and instead just complains that "the devs are bad and I (OP) could design a much better game" without providing any actual flaws, issues, or ways to improve the game.

    This thread is just useless complaints

    My post didn't complain about the devs once, just stating it's a shame that so much depth potential is in this game yet it's instead Lemmings.

    My issue mainly centers around Squad Arena. I just spent the last 2 months gearing up my GR team, full Zeta's, etc. and it's virtually worthless because Malak can last stand the entire team.

    "So run Malak!"

    Can't, don't have +160 spd mod sets, so it's auto loss.

    With so many characters and abilities, the game is kind of like a MTG (Magic The Gathering) system and could have a ton of counter-play. Instead, it's Lemmings, just do whatever you're told to do (it'll likely be pay-walled).

    It's Malak or bust. It makes for completely boring game play. Especially when the only differentiating factor is mods. So you either won the Mod Roulette, or you didn't. That in itself is what determines your success.

    Of course, if I said all this to begin w/, you'd have just said TLDR.

    To beat Drevan and Malak you actually need a slow Padme, so mods are less of an issue. Try looking up some strategy.



    This one is my favorite, but there are several. In 2 months of gearing up GR, you should have invested 5min into research.

    C'mon man, I'm trying hard to be nice; even to those who sound snarky but your style is making that tough.

    I know of the slow Padme build, I'm at 242; which is pretty slow and the rest of the team is faster than her as required.

    I've done quite a bit of research and play testing w/ it thus far and it has a good win-rate against G11 Malak, but after that, it becomes very difficult to get him down w/o losing GK and once GK is gone, it's nearly impossible to win.

    I digress, allow me to ask a question back to you, does a game where the only thing that beats a Malak is a better Malak sound like comp diversity to you? Feel like you have a lot of options to succeed? Or do you feel your game play choices are heavily steered?
  • leef
    13458 posts Member
    Wrathe wrote: »
    leef wrote: »
    Wrathe wrote: »
    Wrathe wrote: »
    you spent 2 months farming a worthless team?

    Spend next 2 months farming Malak...

    you can unlock malak just in time for when in 3 months a Malak counter will be released that wrecks Malak teams.

    This game has been like this since 2017.

    "So run Malak"

    P.S. I have Malak

    The answer to all your problems is farm mods then.



    So you agree w/ my original point.

    "The game is just mods."

    Just out of curiousity, would you rather have amazing mods but always be behind the meta, or would you rather be on top of the meta but with lesser mods?
    If you had to think about that question it kinda proves that this game isn't "just mods".

    Thanks for reply, you're right, in a way.

    I actually listed two issues, Lemming mentality and mods and then recapped it to, "this game is just mods".
    I guess I did that because I figure we can all be lemmings and follow the meta, most top end players do. The only variety at the top is mods, which was where I was coming from.

    Touche though, you're technically correct if you ignore the rest of my OP.

    No, you're ignoring the fact that you need toons just as much as you need mods. Just because you have the toons doesn't make the game solely about mods. That's like saying you only need water to survive because you already have plenty of food.
    As for lemming mentality, the last two metas had 1 team that was simply way better than the other teams. Sure, you could still counter it (eventhough you seem to think malak is unbeatable), but other teams would hold significantly worse on def. Can't really blame it on "lemming mentality".
    End of the day mods are important, just like (meta)toons are important. Imo that's a good thing, it gives us the oppertunity to outperform others where toons couldn't anymore due to being capped. There still are options if you're slower, it's going to be harder than with faster mods though. You also have to keep in mind that if you're in the top of your arena leaderboard it's probably due to your mods, so while you may have worse mods than some, it's reasonable to assume you've got better mods than most.
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