Isn't it so unfair to release Malak late like this?

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  • Gamorrean
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    edited July 2019
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    Last time malak was a whale event in getting the gear ready.. This time ftp have time to gear without $$$
  • TVF
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    Gamorrean wrote: »
    Last time malak was a whale event in getting the gear ready.. This time ftp have time to gear without $$$

    So tiring.

    Define "whale." Does spending $30 on a gear pack make me a whale?

    What about the nearly 900 people that did it having never spent a single cent on the game?

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  • Ultra
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    Gamorrean wrote: »
    Last time malak was a whale event in getting the gear ready.. This time ftp have time to gear without $$$
    You would think that is the case but you will find people complain to this day that JTR is whale only event
  • Gamorrean
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    TVF wrote: »
    Gamorrean wrote: »
    Last time malak was a whale event in getting the gear ready.. This time ftp have time to gear without $$$

    So tiring.

    Define "whale." Does spending $30 on a gear pack make me a whale?

    What about the nearly 900 people that did it having never spent a single cent on the game?

    Ok... 900 people having crystals ready... Sure that makes it a ftp event?

    Its was still designed in the ways of a ptw, both with how it was released and what was needed to beat it
  • Gamorrean
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    edited July 2019
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    And being a whale is just a term we use a lot in those forums here tbh.. Do you want me to talk in numbers? Because I don’t.
  • Gamorrean
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    Ultra wrote: »
    Gamorrean wrote: »
    Last time malak was a whale event in getting the gear ready.. This time ftp have time to gear without $$$
    You would think that is the case but you will find people complain to this day that JTR is whale only event

    Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised
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    The unpredictability of these events is **** not from a resource perspective but from a have to check everyday perspective. Go on vacation for a week? Better still be checking your phone everyday or you might just miss that event you have been waiting 6 months for.
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    Unfair? Probably. That said, those of us who have him hope that he doesn't come back again until the day before the next meta changing character is released!
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    considering I'm also waiting for Malak, I'm not fussed when he returns. We have no idea how a mythic tier event is spread out between so its comical people whine. For all we know, it could be a year till it comes back for the second time round.

    In the mean time, save gear, save GET MK1 and then smile pleased when you drop him then max him in a week or so.

    Thats what I'm trying to to do, so take a chill pill and wait it out.
  • TVF
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    Gamorrean wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Gamorrean wrote: »
    Last time malak was a whale event in getting the gear ready.. This time ftp have time to gear without $$$

    So tiring.

    Define "whale." Does spending $30 on a gear pack make me a whale?

    What about the nearly 900 people that did it having never spent a single cent on the game?

    Ok... 900 people having crystals ready... Sure that makes it a ftp event?

    Show me where I said that.
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    The only reason Malak was released so fast was because of all the whales crying about not getting enough separation between them and the the people who don’t spend as much as they do.

    So there is no precedent or schedule for toon like Malak. It’s anyones guess as to when he returns
  • TVF
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    ZaneMorell wrote: »
    The only reason Malak was released so fast was because of all the whales crying about not getting enough separation between them and the the people who don’t spend as much as they do.

    You have a source on that?
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    Malak may return whenever CG wants but please take him out of Geo TB platoons. It is just super annoying that you have to place a char that isn’t accessible at the moment. This is the only fact about this whole “Malak crisis” that I would call unfair because this does not affect a single player but a whole guild.
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    Ultra wrote: »

    Yes I get CG labeled it a “new type” of event. Still basically a legendary. They added a few different things to a legendary event, re-packaged it, and sold it as a new event to appease whales. It just lets them release it whenever they want since it’s labeled a new event.
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    Let's talk about unfair ... unfair is taking a POS character, such as Bariss, who hits like a wet noodle 'in the real game' and giving her the ability to one-shoot toons in the GEO TB ...
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    RussianSKS wrote: »
    Let's talk about unfair ... unfair is taking a POS character, such as Bariss, who hits like a wet noodle 'in the real game' and giving her the ability to one-shoot toons in the GEO TB ...

    And 1000% tenacity 😂
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    Get it into your thick skull that Mythical events are rarer than legendary. I'd say Malak will return in 6 months total so around september - October.


    Sure because there is a precedent for that, right? Like this little "Mythic" even here...

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    yeah, you are right Mythic events are rarer, and only comes back every "6 months".

  • Nikoms565
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    Get it into your thick skull that Mythical events are rarer than legendary. I'd say Malak will return in 6 months total so around september - October.


    Sure because there is a precedent for that, right? Like this little "Mythic" even here...

    fvp5969yjsap.jpg

    yeah, you are right Mythic events are rarer, and only comes back every "6 months".

    I hate it when facts get in the way of a good slap in the face.
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  • TVF
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    Obviously those are two different types of event. Nomenclature aside.
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  • StarSon
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    Ultra wrote: »

    Yes I get CG labeled it a “new type” of event. Still basically a legendary. They added a few different things to a legendary event, re-packaged it, and sold it as a new event to appease whales. It just lets them release it whenever they want since it’s labeled a new event.

    "Basically a Legendary" is not the same as "actually a Legendary." The verbiage is very important, as they all have different stated cadences. This new type, which is something like Mythic Battle, has no stated cadence. It's like comparing apples and Walmart bags.
    Get it into your thick skull that Mythical events are rarer than legendary. I'd say Malak will return in 6 months total so around september - October.


    Sure because there is a precedent for that, right? Like this little "Mythic" even here...

    fvp5969yjsap.jpg

    yeah, you are right Mythic events are rarer, and only comes back every "6 months".

    Mythic Battles and Mythic Events are different things. Right now, we only have the one Mythic Battle, but we have several events that have Mythic Tiers and versions. The Mythic Event you are referring to has a stated cadence, but Mythic Battles do not.
  • Nikoms565
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    TVF wrote: »
    Obviously those are two different types of event. Nomenclature aside.

    Lol. I love these discussions. "Language matters....until it doesn't." :D
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  • TVF
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    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Obviously those are two different types of event. Nomenclature aside.

    Lol. I love these discussions. "Language matters....until it doesn't." :D

    I mean, if you are really trying to draw a parallel between the two events, you're really reaching... but ok.
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    It isn’t unfair that malak hasn’t come back yet, it’s designed to be a “super rare event” or “ mythic legendary” whatever they call it...

    What is unfair is that they release GEO TB and require malak in platoons when a majority of the player base doesn’t have him, and that he hasn’t come back yet and we are now on our second GEO TB not to mention that you only unlock him at 5* and he’s required at 7* to be placed in platoons.

    All logic aside

    it’s totally ridiculous to have People spend for DR only to find out if you don’t have malak you’re DR team is just meh. And to have DR and JKR journey events come back around and we don’t know when malak is going to come back.

    I’m guessing sometime in August or whenever the light side GEO TB is released.

    But this game has gotten ridiculous so best bet is to just have your OR characters at the requirements or max them out. They make a great GAC defense
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    They have to have as much incentive as possible with a character like Malak to make sure those whales keep coming back. And I ain't talking about the Purrgil kind either... cause they'd be gone by now. ;)
  • Liath
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    What is unfair is that they release GEO TB and require malak in platoons when a majority of the player base doesn’t have him, and that he hasn’t come back yet and we are now on our second GEO TB not to mention that you only unlock him at 5* and he’s required at 7* to be placed in platoons.

    This is nothing new though. Remember back when platoons started and there were ships in them that were literally not available in the game except in the fleet megapack? And when we complained about them the answer from Kozi was "recruit people to your guild that have these units"?
  • Durango
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    edited July 2019
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    Whine aside, it is a bit unfair, but not for the reason one may think. Outside the "I'm sad that I can't have this shiny new toy to play with, too" which is not really something I care about, there's valid reasons why delaying Malak is a way too punishing.
    • It drastically hinders your guild as a whole in TB. Can't place him in the new TB platoons, can't use it in fight either. Less point, less star, less reward, less Negociator shard, yadda yadda.
    • It's also hindering your guild in TW. Malak is really imbalanced, having twice as more Malak as your opponent usually means a pretty easy victory.
    • Malak's beginning to be one of the big criterion when it comes to recruit some fresh blood. "Does he knows how to play? Is he motivated and present on Discord? Does he have Malak?" It's pretty lame, to be honest and absolutely should not happen in this kind of game.

    I'm personally not annoyed that much by Malak "lateness", but I can absolutely see why people would call this "unfair": It's not only creating a gap between you and the people that have Malak, but it also frustrating when you look at a guild level.
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    Durango wrote: »
    Whine aside, it is a bit unfair, but not for the reason one may think. Outside the "I'm sad that I can't have this shiny new toy to play with, too" which is not really something I care about, there's valid reasons why delaying Malak is a way too punishing.
    • It drastically hinders your guild as a whole in TB. Can't place him in the new TB platoons, can't use it in fight either. Less point, less star, less reward, less Negociator shard, yadda yadda.
    • It's also hindering your guild in TW. Malak is really imbalanced, having twice as more Malak as your opponent usually means a pretty easy victory.
    • Malak's beginning to be one of the big criterion when it comes to recruit some fresh blood. "Does he knows how to play? Is he motivated and present on Discord? Does he have Malak?" It's pretty lame, to be honest and absolutely should not happen in this kind of game.

    I'm personally not annoyed that much by Malak "lateness", but I can absolutely see why people would call this "unfair": It's not only creating a gap between you and the people that have Malak, but it also frustrating when you look at a guild level.

    You know what that list is? The reasons why it behooves CG to delay his return. What CG wants is for the playerbase to realize that they need to get these characters the first time, or they're going to be screwed for a variety of reasons on an individual and guild level. This way, whenever the next ultra-mythical-character-of-legend gets released on 17 minutes notice, people jump on it and spend whatever they have to in order to not get left behind for 6 months.
  • Nikoms565
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    Durango wrote: »
    Whine aside, it is a bit unfair, but not for the reason one may think. Outside the "I'm sad that I can't have this shiny new toy to play with, too" which is not really something I care about, there's valid reasons why delaying Malak is a way too punishing.
    • It drastically hinders your guild as a whole in TB. Can't place him in the new TB platoons, can't use it in fight either. Less point, less star, less reward, less Negociator shard, yadda yadda.
    • It's also hindering your guild in TW. Malak is really imbalanced, having twice as more Malak as your opponent usually means a pretty easy victory.
    • Malak's beginning to be one of the big criterion when it comes to recruit some fresh blood. "Does he knows how to play? Is he motivated and present on Discord? Does he have Malak?" It's pretty lame, to be honest and absolutely should not happen in this kind of game.

    I'm personally not annoyed that much by Malak "lateness", but I can absolutely see why people would call this "unfair": It's not only creating a gap between you and the people that have Malak, but it also frustrating when you look at a guild level.

    You know what that list is? The reasons why it behooves CG to delay his return. What CG wants is for the playerbase to realize that they need to get these characters the first time, or they're going to be screwed for a variety of reasons on an individual and guild level. This way, whenever the next ultra-mythical-character-of-legend gets released on 17 minutes notice, people jump on it and spend whatever they have to in order to not get left behind for 6 months.

    Sadly, this is likely the case. And it's been the case since August of 2017 - CG is just more blatant about it now.
    In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie

    In game guild: TNR Uprising
    I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
    *This space left intentionally blank*
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