GA Kyber League: Not for division 1 & 2
August 4, 2019 7:49PM
edited August 2019
I know that there will be some kyber leaguers from these divisions once this GA phase ends, but it’s a joke that the biggest divisions in the game that are filled with the most loyal, long-term, and financially invested players don’t get to see kyber when there are 50+ players at this level in every other division. Seems like making the game fun for players at every level has gone sideways when this is the result.
And no, I’m not complaining about my particular situation, if i win my last GA battle, I’ll hit Kyber, and, if not, I’ll have lost 3 of 12 battles and not deserve it.
And no, I’m not complaining about my particular situation, if i win my last GA battle, I’ll hit Kyber, and, if not, I’ll have lost 3 of 12 battles and not deserve it.
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First, that even though no one has made Kyber yet, there may be a lot more people really close. And in the lower divisions a lot of people have already hit it. So maybe lets see how big the spike is when its done and how it compares to the rest of the divisions.
But also - the competition is fiercer at that level and there are probably a lot less g8 Phoenix and g9 FO being placed on D. So its probably just less feats being earned.
I dont know the math but I could see an argument of Div 2 and 1 feats to award more points. Maybe they will get the final results then tweak.
It might also be a good thing, because it won't cause as much ftp/p2p gap for early players.
Yeah it might be an intentional "perception" thing too. Have less make it early so its up in the air until the last week, to keep people interested. If that's the case I think its probably not a bad idea.
I know because I am right in the middle of it in Division 5 so I have been watching the crazy fluctuations of my own rank and checking where the other Divisions were at.
I don't have the statistics but I'd be willing to bet they look a lot like a bell curve. Is that intended or just the way things worked out? I have no idea but I'll bet someone at CG is examining them with interest. I know I would be.
1. Cross division limits scoring basically its 900 more or 900 less points but div 1 and 2 players can only be limited to 6 combat there's no cross division that gives us 10. All the other divisions get to battle up a division getting 900 bonus free points this allows them to make kyber easily with many losses. However division 1 and 2 players can not make kyber if they get more than 1 cross division (6 combat) match and that's just rng if you get matched against someone who neglected ships they could be div 3 or 4 with 3m toon go and 200k ships vs your 3m toon go and 2m ship gp in div 1.
2. It's much harder to get a full 60 or 64 points to clear in division 1 and 2 when people have 80 or 120 or 175 G12 and 13 Characters all Zetad out. The way scoring works is it rewards you for being perfect so even though the biggest whales have 180 g12 they lose a character or two clearing the 40 g12 and 13 defenses. Because of the strength of great maxed defenses when rosters go over 80 characters maxed killing offensive units on defense becomes common at these high levels. This limits the score because your not clearing a 70k defense its 115k on defense. Soooo people with minimum rosters succeed in division 1 and 2 since their matchup is based on people with a similar top 80 but they are going to face 70k and 80k mid range phoenix teams because those division 2 guys only have 20 g12, but they are still div 1 and 2 so they compete against the people with 175+ g12 for score but against weaker competition.
1 can be fixed by standardizing the battles or limiting cross division to divisions with same number of battles.
2 cant be fixed easily its a effect of the problem caused using gp to determine matchmaking. Gp gain from level 1 to 85 is huge same with the stars from 1 to 7... but the gear which really is the base of the character doesn't really effect gp proportinately. To change this they have to make gears worth the most since a 7 star level 85 gear 1 to 7 character is basically worthless. Every single g12 character in the game will solo kill a full team of maxed out 7 star lvl 85 Zetad lvl 5 gear team.
Gear and mods are what matters if u r measuring power. But gear and mods make up the smallest piece of the measuring stick which is gp.
Gp works if its 2017 and g7 is the max and there's no such thing as mods, then sure gp makes sense for matchmaking. This makes sense since game was designed in 2017. But it's almost 2020 now and gear and mods impact on gp hasnt been scaled properly. 200 gp for g13 and almost doubling stats should be a red flag things went wrong a long time ago.
now back to op's topic....i think div 1 and 2 are working how they should....it's all the other div's that are too easy to make....its not much of a championship, more of a string of GA and accumilating points
In the cancelled exhibition I was matched up a division and had to set the higher number. Since then I haven't had any cross divisional matches (that I noticed anyway).
It all depends on cross divison play, as for me since my roster is really bloated, I constantly fought Div 2-3 players, even though I am Div four, this meant I got to place more defences and had more attacks then many in my Division.
Giving me an unfair advantage really, same for everyone else doing the same thing. In the end, games still rewarding you for playing smartly and not playing for TB GP fluff, just in another way.
Still, one thing that is a major point, Defences mean NOTHING when it comes to score. Anyone who goes heavy on D and fails on offence will lose out more so then losing the match, in fact A LOT more so then losing the match.
If you lose and didn't take all the zones, that is more of an effect against you making kyber then anything, if you lost and still took everything, much easier to make it.
They really should have let defences actually matter with scoring. atm at the lower divisions, everyone has weak defences, so we pick up many many more banners and score.
CG have all the global statistics to see what can be better. It’s difficult for an individual player to focus on what’s wrong. But we can say what we don’t like.
I think it would be interesting to know if matchmaking are changing based on our GAC scores. In order to match all those close to reach kyber each other and make sone of them not able to reach kyber. At first win 2/3 with always some players bot greatly strong. Now it’s just the top of the tip i’m fighting with
My opponent has always had to set the number of teams that is relevant for me. Not once have I had to set more teams and effectively be playing in their division
A lot of posters here always post how they win 90% of their matches or all of them and GAC is the greatest thing in the world... (which is totally fine...IF they took 3 seconds to admit that for 90-95% of all active players it just basically stinks.
You have a GAC store..... that after THE END an entire months work you can buy 32 SALVAGE of kryotech that is basically the new stun gun that every new character will need.... with feats maybe 8 more salvage
So you will need hundreds of full components of this thing for G13, Leveling toons and after an ENTIRE month the outstanding majority of the game will be able to buy 32 salvage. While the top 5-10% of the game will be able to buy 80 (if kryotech is what they buy) Which after a month is still not enough to level some toons ONE level.... not enough for one G13 piece.... but again it's only top 5%...
Rest of game the outstanding majority of players are getting like 32 salvage of an item we need probably 20,000 of going forward.....
It's basically LOL
Second, I'm d4 Kyber. Perhaps d1 would have more kyber if they had better players.
I don't think we can draw any logical conclusions regarding player ability based on the number reaching kyber. We don't know how many are in each division. We also don't know the relative difficulty of reaching kyber in each division.
Or maybe you wouldn't be kyber if D4 had better players
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You are going to get the same Season rewards as me and I’ve lost 3 matches. Makes sense...
How many more zetas have you gotten, though?
So what’s the point of GAC for the vast majority of people? Why not just have single round GAs like we’ve had before if they aren’t going to differentiate between winning and losing for 85% of the active players that fall in the same reward tier (yes, that’s a made up stat).
Cuz it's fun? Lol idk if there's much more reason than that. And keep in mind the rewards and other things may change after exhibition.
Personally I just play and don't take it too serioisly.
Not making it with only 1 loss seems a bit off. I am in Div 3 with 1 loss and should hit Kyber if I take 2 territories. I have had a couple of matches where I didnt get full clears and have mostly ignored feats, but I have completed around half.
Well good luck. Lets see how it shakes out after the final round.
But are the standings and reward tiers making it more fun for you? Or do you just like GA matches in general? Because GA is no doubt my favorite part of this game. But it’s frustrating when they add in a leaderboard but it’s 1) Not very representative of how well people played and 2) Not very rewarding for anyone outside of the “tip of the spear”.
I’d personally rather just scrap the leaderboard and keep the original GA + token rewards for completing feats.