If Rian Johnson was a SWGOH character...

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  • jawa7778 wrote: »
    Boo wrote: »
    I don't know if they can exactly own the failure of TLJ. It feels so out of place and a complete 180.
    Personally, it does make the FA seem better. But I think my issue with FA has to do with characters just showing up and no real backstory. I've been thinking about it and I think that FA is more like the middle film in a trilogy, not the starting film. I get Disney has and will make a ton of money from books and TV series, etc, so the back story is provided there. Just doesn't feel as authentic that way.

    I agree - but to me that's just another reason where TLJH falls short. TFA introduced these new characters, with mystery behind them and where they will go.

    Then Johnson comes along with his "tunnel-vision" approach to making "his" star wars movie and goes nowhere.

    It was TLJ where we should have seen these characters thoroughly fleshed out and where they will grow for E9 - what we got was a devolved Luke Skywalker, a pointless villain in Snoke, Finn returns to cowardice and then back to bravery, Rey goes nowhere, a casino and code breaker plot that also goes nowhere.

    It was a mess. How can E9 possibly clean up after that? It cannot.

    Now we have E9 bringing back the Emperor, which totally destroys the story arc of Anakin/Vader - his purpose and prophecy etc. Now its like all other movies do not matter - out of the frying pan and into the fire, that is what has happened with this franchise and this trilogy is a complete write-off.

    I just hope they make the KOTOR movies well.

    I am excited for the emperor to come back because he was good enough to do it. And, it doesn't destroy the arc. The problem is, the prophecy says the chosen one will bring balance to the force. Balance means both jedi and sith. Killing all the sith means there is an imbalance. There's no way around it, unless the prophecy actually meant, kill all the sith, then we're balanced. Yes, Episode 8 was a mess, and it was bad, but I hope this final film can fix it.

    It will take a space miracle to fix that dumpster fire.
  • Boo
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    jawa7778 wrote: »
    Boo wrote: »
    I don't know if they can exactly own the failure of TLJ. It feels so out of place and a complete 180.
    Personally, it does make the FA seem better. But I think my issue with FA has to do with characters just showing up and no real backstory. I've been thinking about it and I think that FA is more like the middle film in a trilogy, not the starting film. I get Disney has and will make a ton of money from books and TV series, etc, so the back story is provided there. Just doesn't feel as authentic that way.

    I agree - but to me that's just another reason where TLJH falls short. TFA introduced these new characters, with mystery behind them and where they will go.

    Then Johnson comes along with his "tunnel-vision" approach to making "his" star wars movie and goes nowhere.

    It was TLJ where we should have seen these characters thoroughly fleshed out and where they will grow for E9 - what we got was a devolved Luke Skywalker, a pointless villain in Snoke, Finn returns to cowardice and then back to bravery, Rey goes nowhere, a casino and code breaker plot that also goes nowhere.

    It was a mess. How can E9 possibly clean up after that? It cannot.

    Now we have E9 bringing back the Emperor, which totally destroys the story arc of Anakin/Vader - his purpose and prophecy etc. Now its like all other movies do not matter - out of the frying pan and into the fire, that is what has happened with this franchise and this trilogy is a complete write-off.

    I just hope they make the KOTOR movies well.

    I am excited for the emperor to come back because he was good enough to do it. And, it doesn't destroy the arc. The problem is, the prophecy says the chosen one will bring balance to the force. Balance means both jedi and sith. Killing all the sith means there is an imbalance. There's no way around it, unless the prophecy actually meant, kill all the sith, then we're balanced. Yes, Episode 8 was a mess, and it was bad, but I hope this final film can fix it.

    It does destroy the arc - Vader's existence is absolutely pointless, yes he fathered Luke, but Luke just strained himself to death.

    This new trilogy now takes both heroes - Anakin and Luke - and throws them aside like meaningless garbage in order to make Rey shine like the sun and draw in nostalgic fans like you because the Emperor is returning.

    Non of it is clever - its just giving us more crap that we have all seen before with meaningless poorly written characters to triumph over - its dumb.
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