Can we get an official statement about Anakin and NS in p3?

Prev1
Many guilds are prohibiting their players from doing it, this whole thing reminds me of when we had to make rules for rancor that some people would just ignore. Truth is you can't even tell who's bumping their numbers using it, so it becomes a point of toxicity within guilds.

I personally believe it's a legit team that should be officiated, others think it needs to be put to the grave. I just want the devs to make an official statement so we can finally know if it's justified for guilds to ban it or not. It's such a big inconvenience to have that squad available and have to hold it back, while knowing others may use it to do a few million damage and gain a top spot in the raid. This has taken long enough, let's finally get an official word on the matter.

Replies

  • Gifafi
    2490 posts Member
    Justified? Your guild can do what it wants. Devs already made a statement. Find a better guild imo
  • While I agree that a decision should be made and announced on whether or not changes will be made, your reasoning is a guild problem and not something that will be solved by an announcement. Justified or not, your guild leadership could decide to ban a team in a raid and its up to you to follow or risk being kicked out.
    Looking for a new guild? Come check out Wa Da Tah on Discord: https://discord.gg/SFYjRkk
  • While I agree that a decision should be made and announced on whether or not changes will be made, your reasoning is a guild problem and not something that will be solved by an announcement. Justified or not, your guild leadership could decide to ban a team in a raid and its up to you to follow or risk being kicked out.
    Gifafi wrote: »
    Justified? Your guild can do what it wants. Devs already made a statement. Find a better guild imo

    If the devs said the team is working as intended and they want to help Anakin get some use then the argumensts as to why people shouldn't use it will fall apart. If the devs acknowledge the squad is legit and it's there to stay, those who hesitate to put the resources into it will have nothing to fear and they can put those extra Zetas in and it evens the playing field.

    You're both wrong, an official statement from the devs reassuring players that the team won't get nerfed will mean everything
  • Kalano
    399 posts Member
    ...Truth is you can't even tell who's bumping their numbers using it, so it becomes a point of toxicity within ...

    The 50m+ scores are easy to identify imo
  • Gifafi
    2490 posts Member
    While I agree that a decision should be made and announced on whether or not changes will be made, your reasoning is a guild problem and not something that will be solved by an announcement. Justified or not, your guild leadership could decide to ban a team in a raid and its up to you to follow or risk being kicked out.
    Gifafi wrote: »
    Justified? Your guild can do what it wants. Devs already made a statement. Find a better guild imo

    If the devs said the team is working as intended and they want to help Anakin get some use then the argumensts as to why people shouldn't use it will fall apart. If the devs acknowledge the squad is legit and it's there to stay, those who hesitate to put the resources into it will have nothing to fear and they can put those extra Zetas in and it evens the playing field.

    You're both wrong, an official statement from the devs reassuring players that the team won't get nerfed will mean everything

    if you don't have ns leveled you aren't doing well in hsth anyway, and anakin is needed for padme team. both teams are needed for gac/tw/tb. It's not like you are wasting resources in any way.

    again, your guild can do what it wants. "arguments" for/against by guildmates are irrelevant. If your guild doesnt want to use it, fine. Leave everyone else's nice things alone imo lol
  • Kalano wrote: »
    ...Truth is you can't even tell who's bumping their numbers using it, so it becomes a point of toxicity within ...

    The 50m+ scores are easy to identify imo

    People won't full solo it, they can just use it to get a few million advantage, and then they cut it prematurely.
    Gifafi wrote: »
    While I agree that a decision should be made and announced on whether or not changes will be made, your reasoning is a guild problem and not something that will be solved by an announcement. Justified or not, your guild leadership could decide to ban a team in a raid and its up to you to follow or risk being kicked out.
    Gifafi wrote: »
    Justified? Your guild can do what it wants. Devs already made a statement. Find a better guild imo

    If the devs said the team is working as intended and they want to help Anakin get some use then the argumensts as to why people shouldn't use it will fall apart. If the devs acknowledge the squad is legit and it's there to stay, those who hesitate to put the resources into it will have nothing to fear and they can put those extra Zetas in and it evens the playing field.

    You're both wrong, an official statement from the devs reassuring players that the team won't get nerfed will mean everything

    if you don't have ns leveled you aren't doing well in hsth anyway, and anakin is needed for padme team. both teams are needed for gac/tw/tb. It's not like you are wasting resources in any way.

    again, your guild can do what it wants. "arguments" for/against by guildmates are irrelevant. If your guild doesnt want to use it, fine. Leave everyone else's nice things alone imo lol

    Yes you are, you can score well over 25 million without sisters, some people won't justify spending Zetas for it, unless they know it's not getting nerfed

    All that's just irrelevant, I think the devs are obligated to say if they intent to nerf it or if it's wai
  • TVF
    18868 posts Member
    edited August 2019
    Yes you are, you can score well over 25 million without sisters

    Agree with this, since I got Malak I gave up on deathstorm because I can do 5m much easier than the 5-10m from deathstorm. Add in 10m from JTR and 10m from JKR and that's 25m. If I catch the end of P1 with JKR it pushes over 30m.
    Post edited by TVF on
    TVF's guild is recruiting. Say hi in our Discord! https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
  • Gifafi
    2490 posts Member
    TIL people have maxed jtr, jkr and drev malaks but not high-level ns. alright.
  • TVF
    18868 posts Member
    edited August 2019
    Gifafi wrote: »
    TIL people have maxed jtr, jkr and drev malaks but not high-level ns. alright.

    Who said that?

    Anyone doing well in hSTR for a while (especially since launch) will have good NS. But it's far from necessary now. And lots of guilds have started beating hSTR for the first time since the newer options were available.

    If you could farm for NS or JKR right now from scratch, which would you choose?
    TVF's guild is recruiting. Say hi in our Discord! https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
  • TVF wrote: »
    Gifafi wrote: »
    TIL people have maxed jtr, jkr and drev malaks but not high-level ns. alright.

    Who said that?

    Anyone doing well in hSTR for a while (especially since launch) will have good NS. But it's far from necessary now. And lots of guilds have started beating hSTR for the first time since the newer options were available.

    If you could farm for NS or JKR right now from scratch, which would you choose?

    I choose...CUP! THE UNSUNG HERO!

    (This is a joke. I am making this disclaimer because a lot of times my jokes aren't funny and everyone ends up thinking I'm serious)
  • While I agree that a decision should be made and announced on whether or not changes will be made, your reasoning is a guild problem and not something that will be solved by an announcement. Justified or not, your guild leadership could decide to ban a team in a raid and its up to you to follow or risk being kicked out.
    Gifafi wrote: »
    Justified? Your guild can do what it wants. Devs already made a statement. Find a better guild imo

    If the devs said the team is working as intended and they want to help Anakin get some use then the argumensts as to why people shouldn't use it will fall apart. If the devs acknowledge the squad is legit and it's there to stay, those who hesitate to put the resources into it will have nothing to fear and they can put those extra Zetas in and it evens the playing field.

    You're both wrong, an official statement from the devs reassuring players that the team won't get nerfed will mean everything

    This is the argument you should have lead with, which is the exact reason that a statement should be made (although you should already be gearing/zetaing the team for TW/Ga purposes), not some pointless argument about "justifying" a guilds decision to ban a team.
    Looking for a new guild? Come check out Wa Da Tah on Discord: https://discord.gg/SFYjRkk
  • Gifafi
    2490 posts Member
    TVF wrote: »
    Gifafi wrote: »
    TIL people have maxed jtr, jkr and drev malaks but not high-level ns. alright.

    Who said that?

    Anyone doing well in hSTR for a while (especially since launch) will have good NS. But it's far from necessary now. And lots of guilds have started beating hSTR for the first time since the newer options were available.

    If you could farm for NS or JKR right now from scratch, which would you choose?

    lol? hmmm...jkr, the second best team, vs ns...



    like I said, if your having guild problems I feel bad for you son, but


    All I'm saying is the team hurts no one and makes the p3 slog fun. If your guild wants to spend the time and energy on cls bistan squads have at it. (Royal "Your" not your, obv)
  • TVF
    18868 posts Member
    edited August 2019
    Gifafi wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Gifafi wrote: »
    TIL people have maxed jtr, jkr and drev malaks but not high-level ns. alright.

    Who said that?

    Anyone doing well in hSTR for a while (especially since launch) will have good NS. But it's far from necessary now. And lots of guilds have started beating hSTR for the first time since the newer options were available.

    If you could farm for NS or JKR right now from scratch, which would you choose?

    lol? hmmm...jkr, the second best team, vs ns...



    like I said, if your having guild problems I feel bad for you son, but


    All I'm saying is the team hurts no one and makes the p3 slog fun. If your guild wants to spend the time and energy on cls bistan squads have at it. (Royal "Your" not your, obv)

    You need to reread the conversation. All I did was agree that you could get 25m+ without NS. All the other stuff you are talking about was the other poster.
    TVF's guild is recruiting. Say hi in our Discord! https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
  • TVF wrote: »
    Gifafi wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Gifafi wrote: »
    TIL people have maxed jtr, jkr and drev malaks but not high-level ns. alright.

    Who said that?

    Anyone doing well in hSTR for a while (especially since launch) will have good NS. But it's far from necessary now. And lots of guilds have started beating hSTR for the first time since the newer options were available.

    If you could farm for NS or JKR right now from scratch, which would you choose?

    lol? hmmm...jkr, the second best team, vs ns...



    like I said, if your having guild problems I feel bad for you son, but


    All I'm saying is the team hurts no one and makes the p3 slog fun. If your guild wants to spend the time and energy on cls bistan squads have at it. (Royal "Your" not your, obv)

    You need to reread the conversation. All I did was agree that you could get 25m+ without NS. All the other stuff you are talking about was the other poster.

    You're talking to the wrong person
  • TVF
    18868 posts Member
    edited August 2019
    TVF wrote: »
    Gifafi wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Gifafi wrote: »
    TIL people have maxed jtr, jkr and drev malaks but not high-level ns. alright.

    Who said that?

    Anyone doing well in hSTR for a while (especially since launch) will have good NS. But it's far from necessary now. And lots of guilds have started beating hSTR for the first time since the newer options were available.

    If you could farm for NS or JKR right now from scratch, which would you choose?

    lol? hmmm...jkr, the second best team, vs ns...



    like I said, if your having guild problems I feel bad for you son, but


    All I'm saying is the team hurts no one and makes the p3 slog fun. If your guild wants to spend the time and energy on cls bistan squads have at it. (Royal "Your" not your, obv)

    You need to reread the conversation. All I did was agree that you could get 25m+ without NS. All the other stuff you are talking about was the other poster.

    You're talking to the wrong person

    Er....why are you saying that to me?
    TVF's guild is recruiting. Say hi in our Discord! https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
  • StarSon
    3968 posts Member
    Why is this even still a thing? I posted the official response several comments ago.
  • TVF
    18868 posts Member
    edited August 2019
    StarSon wrote: »
    Why is this even still a thing? I posted the official response several comments ago.

    Probably because it's just a can-kick down the road.
    TVF's guild is recruiting. Say hi in our Discord! https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
  • Waqui
    6468 posts Member
    While I agree that a decision should be made and announced on whether or not changes will be made, your reasoning is a guild problem and not something that will be solved by an announcement. Justified or not, your guild leadership could decide to ban a team in a raid and its up to you to follow or risk being kicked out.

    [...]

    You're both wrong, an official statement from the devs reassuring players that the team won't get nerfed will mean everything

    littleMAC77 actually agreed with you, that a decision should be made.
  • Pariah_Anchorite
    542 posts Member
    edited August 2019
    Let me get this straight: you are wondering if you should put resources into Anakin, who is in THE newest shiniest LS team to date which will only be more relevant with an upcoming territory battle, and Night Sisters who have been amongst the longest-standing teams which already is a high-yield force in the raid under discussion, but are concerned that an unofficial hybrid will be stopped?

    This is the very definition of over-thinking. Dude, build those teams, milk them for as long as possible, move on. Nerf or not they’re working *currently*! This game *never* guarantees a future.
    HUTT TANK: YOU HAVE TO BRIBE WITH CRYSTALS TO PASS MY TAUNT!!!
  • Waqui
    6468 posts Member
    StarSon wrote: »
    Why is this even still a thing? I posted the official response several comments ago.

    Quoted from that official announcement:

    "...we will not be taking action on this issue until after the release of the Territory Battle. After their release we will evaluate the issue and let you know if or how we plan on addressing it."

    I believe BH requests the promised update.

    ... patience is a virtue.
  • StarSon
    3968 posts Member
    Waqui wrote: »
    StarSon wrote: »
    Why is this even still a thing? I posted the official response several comments ago.

    Quoted from that official announcement:

    "...we will not be taking action on this issue until after the release of the Territory Battle. After their release we will evaluate the issue and let you know if or how we plan on addressing it."

    I believe BH requests the promised update.

    ... patience is a virtue.

    Idk about all that...
    I personally believe it's a legit team that should be officiated, others think it needs to be put to the grave. I just want the devs to make an official statement

    CG has already stated it is not WAI. They have also said they might not care enough to change it. Either way, they haven't finished releasing TB yet, so keep waiting if you want more than what they've said.
  • Gifafi wrote: »
    While I agree that a decision should be made and announced on whether or not changes will be made, your reasoning is a guild problem and not something that will be solved by an announcement. Justified or not, your guild leadership could decide to ban a team in a raid and its up to you to follow or risk being kicked out.
    Gifafi wrote: »
    Justified? Your guild can do what it wants. Devs already made a statement. Find a better guild imo

    If the devs said the team is working as intended and they want to help Anakin get some use then the argumensts as to why people shouldn't use it will fall apart. If the devs acknowledge the squad is legit and it's there to stay, those who hesitate to put the resources into it will have nothing to fear and they can put those extra Zetas in and it evens the playing field.

    You're both wrong, an official statement from the devs reassuring players that the team won't get nerfed will mean everything

    if you don't have ns leveled you aren't doing well in hsth anyway, and anakin is needed for padme team. both teams are needed for gac/tw/tb. It's not like you are wasting resources in any way.

    again, your guild can do what it wants. "arguments" for/against by guildmates are irrelevant. If your guild doesnt want to use it, fine. Leave everyone else's nice things alone imo lol

    Res gets me 10-12m, jedi 10-13m, I was getting 4m from greedo mix, and about 2m on cleanup. Absolutely plenty to get top 3 previously.
    I'm not asking to change the system but it was unfortunate to stop gearing seps for ns.
  • TVF wrote: »

    If you could farm for NS or JKR right now from scratch, which would you choose?

    That's an easy question. Hands down the NS 😉

    pez8knf7dk5o.jpg
  • TVF wrote: »

    If you could farm for NS or JKR right now from scratch, which would you choose?

    That's an easy question. Hands down the NS 😉

    pez8knf7dk5o.jpg

    We'll let us know how that works, you can solo p3 with way less, only Assajj matters really
  • It's working beautifully so far. They are still top 5 pvp team in the game and easily top 3 "universal" team. But my main reason for getting them up and running was the initial release of jkr and not raids. Just a bonus that they are great in all 3.
  • Kyno
    22217 posts Moderator
    The devs never said dont do it or that anyone would be punished for using it.

    If you want to use it and you think it's a legitimate team, go right ahead.

    The only thing the players base should be aware of is that any development into that team for this expressed purpose has the chance to be lost due to a later update/change to this interaction.

    Nothing is stopping you and your guild from using it. If players in your guild are breaking guild rules, then that is something you should deal with, with them, the devs cannot fix that for you.
  • SnokeonaUnicorn
    74 posts Member
    edited August 2019
    They nerfed the zombie and acolyte cheese then made zombie better. Same goes for zFinn (although outside of raids, whether he is better now is up for debate) If the rewards outside of top 10 weren't so bad it wouldn't be an issue. I also believe they mentioned before that having an intentionally low geared character as part of a squad (as was the case with paper zombie) goes against the spirit of the game and should now apply to nightsister initiate.
  • The "fix" for this, the true fix,, is to adjust the mechanics of P3, the true culprit, this is like the 6th or 7th loop that has come up since its inception. They really need to stop nerfing toons.

    If they are not going to tweak P3 mechanics, the true fix, then a simple fix has been suggested many times already, which I do think should be implemented at minimum, have Ani's bonus turn be based on GR & Jedi allies
Sign In or Register to comment.