Phase 1 Geo TB Bug Mission and General Grievous and B1 Battle Droid Interaction

Saix_XIII

In P1 of Geo TB there is a mission to use Geonosians but it forces the use of Poggle as the leader. This seems horrible given that GBA is a much better leader for the team. This needs to be fixed!


Also, I assume this has been discussed and it is potentially the way it was intended to be, but in Geo TB where Sep Droids are used a lot more and for longer times vs stronger AI characters the interaction seems horrible.

GG says his damage to droid allies cannot defeat them, but it does "kill" the B1 thus removing stacks. Sure I can use their special to gain some back, and also at start of turn, but due to the AI attacks on the B1 along with GG taking them down and it being a long fight due to 4 waves and high tier enemies it is having a negative impact on their synergy IMO.

RandomSithLord

Saix_XIII wrote: »

In P1 of Geo TB there is a mission to use Geonosians but it forces the use of Poggle as the leader. This seems horrible given that GBA is a much better leader for the team. This needs to be fixed!


Also, I assume this has been discussed and it is potentially the way it was intended to be, but in Geo TB where Sep Droids are used a lot more and for longer times vs stronger AI characters the interaction seems horrible.

GG says his damage to droid allies cannot defeat them, but it does "kill" the B1 thus removing stacks. Sure I can use their special to gain some back, and also at start of turn, but due to the AI attacks on the B1 along with GG taking them down and it being a long fight due to 4 waves and high tier enemies it is having a negative impact on their synergy IMO.

I couln't get B1 killed in P3 and with the current character and gear levels you probably can't make it to wave 4 in P4 with GG anyway. It's fine as it is.

srwhitewvu

Phase 1 geo special mission is pretty easy if you omega poggle lead with all the geos. I beat it with only one gear 12 geo last time, the rest were gear 11. It’s fine

Syrup_Chugger3

Theres nothing to fix on the p1 mission. Poggle is forced lead as GBA is almost brand new. It would hinder alot of players from being able to even attempt it if it were brood alpha lead.

CCyrilS

Syrup_Chugger3 wrote: »

Theres nothing to fix on the p1 mission. Poggle is forced lead as GBA is almost brand new. It would hinder alot of players from being able to even attempt it if it were brood alpha lead.

They could just not have a lead requirement

crzydroid

CCyrilS wrote: »

Syrup_Chugger3 wrote: »

Theres nothing to fix on the p1 mission. Poggle is forced lead as GBA is almost brand new. It would hinder alot of players from being able to even attempt it if it were brood alpha lead.

They could just not have a lead requirement

Exactly. Players without GBA could easily use Dooku or GG as lead.

Saix_XIII

Or at least let you choose between Poggle and GBA. Forcing us to use Poggle when he is vastly inferior makes no sense. On top of that it is par for the course for CG to encourage new toon use for events. You still need to have a 6* GBA to do the event which is fine, I get it, it's a theme for the battle. But it makes no sense to force a worse leader.

I have all of them at G12 except for GBA, he is G11+ but currently 6*. I got destroyed on wave 4.

RandomSithLord

Saix_XIII wrote: »

Or at least let you choose between Poggle and GBA. Forcing us to use Poggle when he is vastly inferior makes no sense. On top of that it is par for the course for CG to encourage new toon use for events. You still need to have a 6* GBA to do the event which is fine, I get it, it's a theme for the battle. But it makes no sense to force a worse leader.

I have all of them at G12 except for GBA, he is G11+ but currently 6*. I got destroyed on wave 4.

That's your mods and how you use your team, not the lead. P1 CM is trivial for G12 geos even with Poggle.

KvotheQGBQG2

I'd love to use Brood as the lead here, but Poggle does just fine. If you have G12 bugs you can walk right through this mission.

TVF

crzydroid wrote: »

CCyrilS wrote: »

Syrup_Chugger3 wrote: »

Theres nothing to fix on the p1 mission. Poggle is forced lead as GBA is almost brand new. It would hinder alot of players from being able to even attempt it if it were brood alpha lead.

They could just not have a lead requirement

Exactly. Players without GBA could easily use Dooku or GG as lead.

Or farm GBA.

Liath

TB is about requiring you to use characters you wouldn't otherwise use, not about allowing you the optimal choice at every point. Making you gear Poggle and level his leader ability is a feature, not a bug.

TVF

Liath wrote: »

Making you gear Poggle and level his leader ability is a feature, not a bug.

Technically it's both.

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Saix_XIII

The thing is, Geo TB makes you gear them both no matter what, so I fail to see how anyone can defend this.

I cannot do the mission without Poggle, and if he is low gear he gets destroyed, as well he should, and then things can go south due to that. You need all 5 bugs at G12/G13 to do this TB from start to finish, so why should you not be able to choose from both leaders?

Liath

Saix_XIII wrote: »

The thing is, Geo TB makes you gear them both no matter what, so I fail to see how anyone can defend this.

I cannot do the mission without Poggle, and if he is low gear he gets destroyed, as well he should, and then things can go south due to that. You need all 5 bugs at G12/G13 to do this TB from start to finish, so why should you not be able to choose from both leaders?

Why *should* you be able to? There's nothing to defend, because there's nothing unreasonable about any particular requirement; that's just how TB works. I didn't want to use ROLO lead in the final Hoth mission, but, too bad for me, I didn't get a choice. Leveling Poggle's leader ability is something you might do now that you wouldn't have done if he wasn't required as leader, so it gets you to spend more resources even if you would have geared him anyway. You're ok with every other forced leader in this TB (like Nute with droids for the other P1 mission)? Why? Just because you would level those leader abilities anyway? Well there you go. And also keep in mind that not everybody participating in this TB is doing it "from start to finish," there are guilds that are spending multiple days on a phase, and the people in those guilds probably aren't gearing 5 bugs to g12/13 right now. It's just another incentive to put resources into something you otherwise might not have.

TVF

Forcing a team comp, a partial team comp, or a lead is just a way to force variety into the game mode. I don't see the problem with that.