"Easier for players to reach higher gear tiers”

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  • I hope they finally lower the price of the stupid mk5 callers and furnaces, and give more than 3 lousy pieces in the shard shop. Small tiny changes, but would help a lot to get over the horrendous G9/G10 gear bottleneck

    Yeah, sure. That’s why they removed stun guns from ship nodes. Because they care 😂😂😂
  • YaeVizsla wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    Also, when they claim to make it better, they are actually making it worse - see the removal of stun guns from fleet nodes.
    ...along with the doubling of fleet energy and the addition of G12/12+ pieces to fleet. On the same day they halved shard shop prices of G12 pieces. And added G12+ pieces to the shard shop.

    Amazing how CG never makes it easy to gear characters if you completely ignore the multiple ways they make it easy to gear characters in one stroke in favor of focusing on the one way they make it a little harder.

    Fact of the matter is CG's consistently added more sources of stuff to the game over the years, but the playerbase laser focuses on the small setbacks.

    They’ve def started making the grind easier, and since this is the first post relic release I’m not yet expecting the flood gates to open up on gear. CG has gotta get that paper after all!

    If the new path forward for unlocking toons will be a soft requirement of R4/5 relics though (or playing an event for hours waiting for RNG if you’re lower), then G13 should be become as easy to get as G11 is now, IMO.

    I’d imagine that’s what’s going to be a part of the rewards for the new TB and new Raid early next year. Maybe throw in a new tier in challenges too to round out the old Gear crunch and make Relics the new bottleneck.
  • Globuhl wrote: »
    I wonder how intimidating it is for a new player to look at his base team and to consider how long is the path to his first g13 plus relic character... I wonder if the game is even growing now. In my guild it’s been months since we haven’t had a new guild member request. We have some open spots, we don’t have extravagant requirements. We don’t even mandate 600 a day. Yet no candidate. We used to have several poping up between territory battles or wars. It has ended.

    I do think CG crossed the line at some point and badly hurt the golden goose. It’s now slowly dying...

    Similar situation here... we are a 160 M Guild having 2 free spots.... and there was no new member in the last 2 months....
  • IronCross wrote: »
    By buying GS shards with GET you miss out on roughly 28.5 full stun guns. Can you feel the crunch hindered yet?

    You can’t buy Geo Soldier shards for GET only GAS shards. Please use the proper acronym.
    Do you get GAS from GenerAl Skywalker? Enlighten me please.

    Now I feel bad for not using GOK all these years. I wonder how people understood me.

    His first name is Anakin. Hope that helps.
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    In game guild: TNR Uprising
    I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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  • Nikoms565 wrote: »
    IronCross wrote: »
    By buying GS shards with GET you miss out on roughly 28.5 full stun guns. Can you feel the crunch hindered yet?

    You can’t buy Geo Soldier shards for GET only GAS shards. Please use the proper acronym.
    Do you get GAS from GenerAl Skywalker? Enlighten me please.

    Now I feel bad for not using GOK all these years. I wonder how people understood me.

    His first name is Anakin. Hope that helps.
    Doesn't help the case of the acronym when it's absent in the game.
  • Why is everyone getting so mad that they cant be #1 in a videogame.


    Like bro you shouldn't expect to have all the content handed over to you lmao.


    The game is fine and probably doing even better than before.


    GAS isnt even as meta dominant as JKR hes more like DR no Malak.


    Padmé, 3PO & The super F2P trio can counter him easily yet y'all are getting mad over not being able to unlock everything.


    I mean Its like working at subway making minimim wage and getting upset when you see a rich man pull up in a Bugatti because you cant afford it.
  • Why is everyone getting so mad that they cant be #1 in a videogame.


    Like bro you shouldn't expect to have all the content handed over to you lmao.


    The game is fine and probably doing even better than before.


    GAS isnt even as meta dominant as JKR hes more like DR no Malak.


    Padmé, 3PO & The super F2P trio can counter him easily yet y'all are getting mad over not being able to unlock everything.


    I mean Its like working at subway making minimim wage and getting upset when you see a rich man pull up in a Bugatti because you cant afford it.

    Why some guy like you don't understand that more than 2 years for "new player" to reach end game in a video game who a have 5 years old is very excessif!!!!???

  • I wouldn't call it a lie per se on CG part (and please understand I am NOT a CG apologist by any means), rather by the time they get around to doing it (IE: perhaps holidays or after LS Geo TB which will drive guilds apart again) it would be useless to those who need it currently.

    Frankly I'm just tired of being mad at CG. They are going to do everything for the almighty dollar and anyone who thinks otherwise is just fooling themselves and setting themselves up for disappointment.

    Expect the absolute worst case from CG/EA and you can't get disappointed! :)

    So true. For awhile I believed they were fellow SW fans doing their best to make a great SW game. Not anymore. EA corrupts everything it touches.

    Yep, so bad that I can't reliably get Origin to update ever...
  • The real problem is , when you make MK1 such a big requirement , a lot of small guilds or avarage guilds will lose their not loyal players that can jump into a guild that will provide them more MK1 tokens.

    MK1 GETs should be aquiered by more means , getting 800 ( 4 x 2 ) from promoting to Kyber is joke ( GaC rewards are joke too incase i forget to say it ! )
  • Do you get GAS from GenerAl Skywalker? Enlighten me please.

    Now I feel bad for not using GOK all these years. I wonder how people understood me.
    Gar Saxon, Geonosian Soldier, Geonosian Spy, and now General Skywalker.

    The game has four GSes. Using General Skywalker's first name to make GAS is a very clear and reasonable way to set him apart from the other three GSes.
    Still not a he.
  • JZ95
    167 posts Member
    YaeVizsla wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    Also, when they claim to make it better, they are actually making it worse - see the removal of stun guns from fleet nodes.
    ...along with the doubling of fleet energy and the addition of G12/12+ pieces to fleet. On the same day they halved shard shop prices of G12 pieces. And added G12+ pieces to the shard shop.

    Amazing how CG never makes it easy to gear characters if you completely ignore the multiple ways they make it easy to gear characters in one stroke in favor of focusing on the one way they make it a little harder.

    Fact of the matter is CG's consistently added more sources of stuff to the game over the years, but the playerbase laser focuses on the small setbacks.

    All those things happened before theor recent statements. They boubled the energy but removed stun guns from it. They added more to the shard shop but never increased the income and they cost more than the old pieces so you buy less. I don't see how any of the things you mentioned helps me with the insane amounts of stun guns I still need.

    You can't give them credit for doing something that they should have done long time ago. Fleet energy never made sense to begin with. Shard shop had no reason to be limited to older gear in the first place.

    It's like the joke where the guy praises himself for being a good father, and the comedian is like : " n***a you're supposed to be a good father! Stop asking for credit for doing the obvious normal thing". It makes sense, if you treat someone like crap all the time, when you do one good thing for them it seems overblown, like when you're surprised when an evil person does a good deed after a series of evil things and everyone acts like they deserve credit.
  • YaeVizsla wrote: »
    Fact of the matter is CG's consistently added more sources of stuff to the game over the years, but the playerbase laser focuses on the small setbacks.

    1: Probably because removing STUN GUNS in any way at all is not a SMALL setback.
    They are one of the most in demand pieces in the game.

    2: Probably because what they did was akin to me giving you a 50 cent raise per hour but also telling you there will now be a fee to park in the employee parking lot & the cost of your medical insurance is going up at the same time.
    Yeah, you'll be making a bit more per check, but, its mostly going to be a set back.


    The reality is if they had left the stun guns in those nodes it would have been a PLAYER CHOICE on what they wanted to use the new extra blue energy for. Instead they have mandated what you spend it on.
    How many fleet node gear items are crap that you don't need? They could have stuck the G12 stuff in those nodes, not the ones with already in massive demand pieces.

  • Enas_Yorl wrote: »
    We asked if there will be another toon which needs get1 and they said not in the forseable future. That was in May. At that time they knew already that gas was coming, but ... well ... they forgot it. Can i also get 70k get1 and forget to play for it?

    I have to say, they addressed in january 2019 that a new toon (malak) will come to the game and it might require get tokens. But here ... with gas ... i see only ... smoke and screens. Ahhh and cashgrabs.

    No more pay to play, it's ridiculous. Everyone PLEASE STOP SPENDING MONEY on these games. IT IS NOT WORTH It. You are losing everytime, example: hmm, i have 23 of the items to unlock a new ship i need to get to 25. The game will not give you what you need most times. You spend 50 shards to get a refill and they give you 1 item, you try another 50 shards to get 1 more to unlock/promote/get gear/etc. You all know what I'm talking about. It's not just this game. There are other games such as marvel contest of champions, these games are made to draw you in and give you a little hope. Just like a casino slot machine. Let me put in 10 dollars wow i won 20 dollars. Let me put in 100 dollars and you get nothing. We need to show these companies/developers who has the power, without whalers (big spenders) and without people making vids showing how awesome a game is or some big crystal opening. No one would buy or spend. It's a big sham. We are all falling victim to it. Do you remember back when these games first came out and prices where like 99 cents to get things. They (devs) woke up and realized the potential. Now you have 99 dollar items, or crystals. PEOPLE STOP SPENDING ON THESE GAMES. it feels good to level up a toon, or to get an item no one in your guild has, or you can simply compete with the game easier. It's not worth what we (players) put into the game. We are **** and we are getting cheated over and over again. BUT YOU ARE FREE TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. IN THE END IT'S YOUR MONEY. I'd prefer to take it to the companies and keep them from making millions, billions or whatever they are making from these games we get addicted to playing and eventually spending our money on.
  • Jawkin
    6 posts Member
    edited October 2019
    Or it could just be GS for General Skywalker...
  • Jawkin wrote: »
    Or it could just be GS for General Skywalker...
    ...and Gar Saxon and Geonosian Spy and Geonosian Soldier...
    Still not a he.
  • Rogenhamen
    160 posts Member
    edited October 2019
    Enas_Yorl wrote: »
    We asked if there will be another toon which needs get1 and they said not in the forseable future. That was in May. At that time they knew already that gas was coming, but ... well ... they forgot it. Can i also get 70k get1 and forget to play for it?

    I have to say, they addressed in january 2019 that a new toon (malak) will come to the game and it might require get tokens. But here ... with gas ... i see only ... smoke and screens. Ahhh and cashgrabs.

    No more pay to play, it's ridiculous. Everyone PLEASE STOP SPENDING MONEY on these games. IT IS NOT WORTH It. You are losing everytime, example: hmm, i have 23 of the items to unlock a new ship i need to get to 25. The game will not give you what you need most times. You spend 50 shards to get a refill and they give you 1 item, you try another 50 shards to get 1 more to unlock/promote/get gear/etc. You all know what I'm talking about. It's not just this game. There are other games such as marvel contest of champions, these games are made to draw you in and give you a little hope. Just like a casino slot machine. Let me put in 10 dollars wow i won 20 dollars. Let me put in 100 dollars and you get nothing. We need to show these companies/developers who has the power, without whalers (big spenders) and without people making vids showing how awesome a game is or some big crystal opening. No one would buy or spend. It's a big sham. We are all falling victim to it. Do you remember back when these games first came out and prices where like 99 cents to get things. They (devs) woke up and realized the potential. Now you have 99 dollar items, or crystals. PEOPLE STOP SPENDING ON THESE GAMES. it feels good to level up a toon, or to get an item no one in your guild has, or you can simply compete with the game easier. It's not worth what we (players) put into the game. We are **** and we are getting cheated over and over again. BUT YOU ARE FREE TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. IN THE END IT'S YOUR MONEY. I'd prefer to take it to the companies and keep them from making millions, billions or whatever they are making from these games we get addicted to playing and eventually spending our money on.

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    People who spend money on this game are wack.
    Started July 2016, completely FTP : https://swgoh.gg/u/rogenhamen/
  • Hortus
    615 posts Member
    edited October 2019
    YaeVizsla wrote: »

    Fact of the matter is CG's consistently added more sources of stuff to the game over the years, but the playerbase laser focuses on the small setbacks.

    You know, people usually don't care how many "sources" of gear they have. They care about difference between how much they can get and how much they need. And when absolute numbers of incoming gear is increased but gear backlog become even deeper due to introducing new ways of spending same gear - it's not "small setback".
  • Hortus wrote: »
    You know, people usually don't care how many "sources" of gear they have. They care about difference between how much they can get and how much they need. And when absolute numbers of incoming gear is increased but gear backlog become even deeper due to introducing new ways of spending same gear - it's not "small setback".
    Over the last two years, CG has added one gear level and relics, whose consumption of relevant gear is less than the equivalent of one gear level. That is significantly less than the sources of income they've added to the game.
    Still not a he.
  • ZAP wrote: »
    YaeVizsla wrote: »
    ZAP wrote: »
    I’ve asked you before and you have ignored me, but every time you post it’s basically the same thing and it’s just so weird that a random player would always choose this line and side with CG/EA, using half truths and ignoring the companies missteps.

    So, I think to be fair to this community, you should tell us your affiliation to CG/EA/Disney/Lusas Films.

    Your posts would make so much more sense if you had some relationship with one or more of those companies as opposed to just a random player with zero affiliation.

    Your knowledge of the mechanics, timelines and virtually every aspect of the game is rivaled by very few in the game, which I have actually learned from and can appreciate.

    So, am I wrong in this as I was apparently wrong about you getting top 10 in arena daily? Or am I right and you don’t want to tell us? Or am I right and this time you’ll finally tell us how you are associated in some way to one of the companies running this game?
    I have explained my positions time and again. Do not assume someone who disagrees with you must have ulterior motives when they're just giving credit where it's due and relaying the facts people seem to be ignoring.

    My "half-truths" as you call them seem to be significantly truer than the non-truths people love throwing around hereabouts. Fact of the matter is income is much higher today than it was two years ago, and it's been steadily rising. CG has been making it much easier to gear units.

    Oh, I must have missed when you said you were or were not affiliated in some way to one of these companies, directly or indirectly. It’s clear you don’t want to answer that basic question though, so we’re just left to assume. I’ll assume you are indeed affiliated with one of those companies.

    Your half-truths are absolutely not significantly truer than other posters.

    First of all, your knowledge of the game is significantly greater than probably 90% of players in this game. However, you don’t ever seem to use that knowledge as a way to help players, your posts are usually condescending and demeaning to less knowledgeable players/posters.

    The original post of this thread was talking about a statement made by a CG developer and how that statement has not come to fruition, despite its implication that it should have been announced and realized by now.

    Your half truth in this thread is that CG has steadily and consistently increased acquiring gear for our characters. While this may be true, the other half that you conveniently leave out or discount is the amount of gear required has been steadily and consistently been increasing as well.

    2 years ago we didn’t need G12+4/5, G13, relics 6e mods to be competitive and play all modes of the game. 2 years ago it was get to G12, put some 5* mods on and you could compete in all raids and arena.

    Since that time we now have TW, GAC, a new TB and tons more chars.

    Bottom line is that it takes longer today to make a char useful then it did 2 years ago.

    This thread is about CG telling us that they would alleviate the grind to get our chars to higher gear tiers and they have not delivered on that in anyway and have actually in fact made it even more difficult.

    Devs get pretty defensive when they’re called out 🤷🏼‍♂️
  • To be honest, both points are true.
    On one hand, the demand for gear has increased at a near exponential rate. What kind of gear requirements are necessary to complete other legendary events? G10, maybe 11. Maybe one zeta. The rewards for g10 on 5 characters and all at 7*? You guessed right, it was a 7* unlock!
    How many stun guns did it take to get to g10? 2, maybe 3 if you were unlucky. I remember the time when I got one stun gun on Leia so I could get CLS.
    Fast forward to today. What are the requirements now? 15 characters, all at g10, with 5 at g12 and the other 5 at G13. Also, Relics. How many stun guns is that? I don't know, but I imagine it is over 10. How many zetas? Probably 12. What do we get for completing the event? A 5* unlock?! How do we get less for doing more?

    On the other hand, we do have more ways to get stung guns and other stuff. Shard shop, normal nodes, and.... Well, for stun guns in particular, that's it. But we do have gear from TW, gear from GAC, and sometimes events and dailies.

    Overall, the requirements for things like special characters has exploded to insane requirements. If they were honest, they would also list (6 months of 26 stars in GEO TB) as a part of the requirement as well. The argument that they haven't alleviated the gear crunch is indefensible.
  • Think about new players. They won’t be able to use GET currency on gear for 2+ years if they want Malak, GAS, Hermit Yoda, and Wampa.
  • CCyrilS
    6732 posts Member
    Ikky2win wrote: »
    Think about new players. They won’t be able to use GET currency on gear for 2+ years if they want Malak, GAS, Hermit Yoda, and Wampa.

    I had to wait about that long
  • CCyrilS wrote: »
    Ikky2win wrote: »
    Think about new players. They won’t be able to use GET currency on gear for 2+ years if they want Malak, GAS, Hermit Yoda, and Wampa.

    I had to wait about that long

    Same but honestly Wampa is useless and a 5* HYODA has everything 7* but speed.
  • Wampa is a very useful unit who can eat certain teams or be the best fifth for a Carth squad and the star of Beast Mode.

    Hermit Yoda cannot participate in hSith at 5*, where he's a powerful force for Beast Mode and JKR.
    Still not a he.
  • NotTheChosenOne
    128 posts Member
    edited October 2019
    YaeVizsla wrote: »
    Wampa is a very useful unit who can eat certain teams or be the best fifth for a Carth squad and the star of Beast Mode.

    Hermit Yoda cannot participate in hSith at 5*, where he's a powerful force for Beast Mode and JKR.

    I'd take 37 Stun Gun prototypes over a top 50-100 character @ 7* anyday.
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