Does anyone like the ST?

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  • Boo wrote: »
    It is clearly genetic hence Luke's comment I made earlier, as well as Qui-Gon asking Shmi who Anakin's father was. Additionally with Rey being the grandchild of Palpatine or Maul and his brother Savage etc. etc.

    I love when people respond to a counter-argument with "clearly" as if it's proof.
    I see WHY you make the inference, but that inference lacks concrete causality. If "it" in the statement "I have it, my father has it, my sister has it" actually refers to herpes, then you can infer some strange stuff might be going on in that family unit, or maybe they just all shared the same spoon with the Froot Loops. See how inference can lead you to some dangerously wrong conclusions?
    I'm saying A) I can't recall anywhere in canon where it is "clearly" stated that the Force is genetic. Please prove me wrong. And B) for someone who's so into consistency in the "lore", it's wholly inconsistent with everything else in the SW universe for the Force to be genetic for exactly the reasons I mentioned.

    The fact that you then twisted yourself into knots to let the Jedi trust in the force to create new force sensitives even as they're doing their best to eradicate it if it is actually genetic is actually pretty funny.
  • Boo
    3926 posts Member
    I wholly reject midichlorians. If such a symbiote were to exist, compatible hosts (Force sensitives) could isolate and grow them in a lab, then re-inject them the night before the big game. Midichlorian doping would be rampant.

    It is what it is, which is why in so many stories "cloning force users" was not possible; and to me that is Cannon, and always has been for me personally.

    Midichlorians are small life forms that act as a conduit into the force, just like the kyber crystals do for lightsabers.

    Although small lightsaber stones can be synthesized (as seen with the Sith red saber), midichlorians are not objects but microscopic beings - much more complicated and likely impossible to replicate.
  • Boo
    3926 posts Member
    Boo wrote: »
    It is clearly genetic hence Luke's comment I made earlier, as well as Qui-Gon asking Shmi who Anakin's father was. Additionally with Rey being the grandchild of Palpatine or Maul and his brother Savage etc. etc.

    I love when people respond to a counter-argument with "clearly" as if it's proof.
    I see WHY you make the inference, but that inference lacks concrete causality. If "it" in the statement "I have it, my father has it, my sister has it" actually refers to herpes, then you can infer some strange stuff might be going on in that family unit, or maybe they just all shared the same spoon with the Froot Loops. See how inference can lead you to some dangerously wrong conclusions?
    I'm saying A) I can't recall anywhere in canon where it is "clearly" stated that the Force is genetic. Please prove me wrong. And B) for someone who's so into consistency in the "lore", it's wholly inconsistent with everything else in the SW universe for the Force to be genetic for exactly the reasons I mentioned.

    The fact that you then twisted yourself into knots to let the Jedi trust in the force to create new force sensitives even as they're doing their best to eradicate it if it is actually genetic is actually pretty funny.

    I have already proven you wrong - and what is it with you and herpes dude?
  • Boo wrote: »
    Boo wrote: »
    It is clearly genetic hence Luke's comment I made earlier, as well as Qui-Gon asking Shmi who Anakin's father was. Additionally with Rey being the grandchild of Palpatine or Maul and his brother Savage etc. etc.

    I love when people respond to a counter-argument with "clearly" as if it's proof.
    I see WHY you make the inference, but that inference lacks concrete causality. If "it" in the statement "I have it, my father has it, my sister has it" actually refers to herpes, then you can infer some strange stuff might be going on in that family unit, or maybe they just all shared the same spoon with the Froot Loops. See how inference can lead you to some dangerously wrong conclusions?
    I'm saying A) I can't recall anywhere in canon where it is "clearly" stated that the Force is genetic. Please prove me wrong. And B) for someone who's so into consistency in the "lore", it's wholly inconsistent with everything else in the SW universe for the Force to be genetic for exactly the reasons I mentioned.

    The fact that you then twisted yourself into knots to let the Jedi trust in the force to create new force sensitives even as they're doing their best to eradicate it if it is actually genetic is actually pretty funny.

    I have already proven you wrong - and what is it with you and herpes dude?

    I think you and I have different definitions of the word "proven", but that's cool. One of them is lacking in "proof."
  • Nihion
    2427 posts Member
    Alright break it up, this discussion is starting to become personal insults.
  • EA_Joz
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  • Boo
    3926 posts Member
    Boo wrote: »
    Boo wrote: »
    It is clearly genetic hence Luke's comment I made earlier, as well as Qui-Gon asking Shmi who Anakin's father was. Additionally with Rey being the grandchild of Palpatine or Maul and his brother Savage etc. etc.

    I love when people respond to a counter-argument with "clearly" as if it's proof.
    I see WHY you make the inference, but that inference lacks concrete causality. If "it" in the statement "I have it, my father has it, my sister has it" actually refers to herpes, then you can infer some strange stuff might be going on in that family unit, or maybe they just all shared the same spoon with the Froot Loops. See how inference can lead you to some dangerously wrong conclusions?
    I'm saying A) I can't recall anywhere in canon where it is "clearly" stated that the Force is genetic. Please prove me wrong. And B) for someone who's so into consistency in the "lore", it's wholly inconsistent with everything else in the SW universe for the Force to be genetic for exactly the reasons I mentioned.

    The fact that you then twisted yourself into knots to let the Jedi trust in the force to create new force sensitives even as they're doing their best to eradicate it if it is actually genetic is actually pretty funny.

    I have already proven you wrong - and what is it with you and herpes dude?

    I think you and I have different definitions of the word "proven", but that's cool. One of them is lacking in "proof."

    Your argument is comparing the force to herpes, lol

    Plus you are trying to take one line of dialogue out of context - your argument does not address the other familial traits of the force that I mentioned, as "proof" to back up what I was saying.

    * Skywalker lineage - Anakin to Luke & Leia, to Ben Solo - this is a genetically transferred use of the force

    * Mother Talzin (yes she uses the force as "Magic" rather than its traditional use) to, Darth Maul and Savage Opress. Also is it confirmed that she is Assaj Ventress' mother as well?

    * Palpatine to his son (who renounced it), to Rey.

    These are but a few obvious genetically transferred power to use the force - do they all have herpes? lol.

    Is this all just random, bearing in mind there are billions of life forms in the galaxy?, or is the ability to use the force passed genetically? I would also argue that passing the ability down also tends to "water down" the strength of that trait.

    Additionally, I say the ability to use the force is generated at random throughout the galaxy as well, so it isn't always passed genetically. The force can "will" itself to be used, by new beings born with that ability, who have had no prior family ties to force users. Jedi identify these children and induct them into the order.

    I'd say everything I have stated is pretty common knowledge amongst star wars fans.

  • I find the sequel trilogy really bizarre from a design standpoint. I mean they have this universe that is super popular and a large number of people that are somewhat disenfranchised by the prequels but are still hopeful. So you would think they would carefully plot out the trilogy ahead of time with an awesome story arc and everything but no instead they decide to go with a make it up as you go along approach where each new movie's plot is decided on the whims of the director which they change up.
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