Hello everyone, please stay positive! We all love this game, so let's be cool about it.
So a while back, I nearly quit SWGOH when Negotiator came out and dominated my shard's fleet arena. I had invested so much time (and some money) into my Rebel fleet and just when I made top 5 for my first week, BOOM Negotiators kicked me back out. The timing was awful! I was so mad to have just reached the top and after a few days, a meta shift kicked me out.
However, I've since learned how to easily beat those GR & Negotiator fleets in my arena with Rebels.
Today I went 4-1 against them, ended the day at #2, but held #1 for most of it. This includes beating relic 7 Kenobi, Anakin and Ahsokas. So, I thought I'd share how to do it because a lot of people felt the same way. As it turns out, winning with Rebels is pretty easy actually, though the play order is counter intuitive. As such, I made this video to share how I and a few others do it. I hope you all enjoy.
Here is my standing today after going 4 wins and 1 loss against GR-Negotiator.And here is my guide on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHapfmhtSQ4&feature=youtu.be
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Easily is defined as "without difficulty". You seem to have confused the adverbs easily and always, which means "at all times or on all occasions.". I did not say I "always" win. I said you can still easily win. Yes, something can be easy, but still not work out the way you want.
If you watch the full video, you'll see that it was pretty easy to win those 4 matches, especially when compared to the previous struggles I referenced above. You gotta keep things in context. With that said, I will admit that luck is a factor that affects the outcome as HMF's assists are not guaranteed.
It's a very relevant video even for players that don't use rebels in arena, as often you'll run up against negotiator on defense in TW and GAC.
I only watched the first battle and he called Cassian while Anakin had the locked buff.
Yeah, that's why that battle took so long. There's quite a few other misplays, some of which he calls out, some he doesn't - so a good exercise to the viewer to figure them all out.
It can't call HMF to assist, which you need to get anakin on the ropes quickly. In the TW/GAC scenario, it frees HT for other squads.
Before I unlocked Mal, I had Rebels with no Bistan, and it was 50/50 on offense depending on number of assists.
Aside from adding to the assist fireworks, Biggs with a fast Bistan can usually taunt a lot quicker than HT. There's a good chance JKA uses his special and slaps buff immunity on your HT before he gets a turn.
That being said, I wouldn't call this an easy counter by any means. It's the easiest with Home One, but it's very RNG-y. On a bad day, you might need 3-4 tries to take down the JKA + Ahsoka lineup that everyone uses now. You'll onstantly get dazed and slapped with buff and healing immunity and you'll see tank after tank as reinforcement rather than Fives or Plo. First Clone Sarge, then Sun Fac, then Biggs or Y-Wing. Anything to lower your chances of targeting JKA. And it works. Cassian does force all against Sarge and Sun Fac. It's a huge PIA and anything but easy.
Seems to me you’re probably ticking people off if you’re trying to stay first all day. If you keep that up, I suspect you’ll soon be targeted and driven out of the top ten everyday.
just wait some weeks and you will see hiw hard it is to kill these.
5s in startup - you have a chance with rebells... ht, ani and snipps in startup - no real chance if they have relicts.
All below 500k is doable with rng... above - hard work
Yeah. But that’s not in the spirit of the game.
Doh... now I feel silly. Thanks for clarifying, I thought I understood this, seems I still got some learning to do.
Thats gear dependant, as always. With some relics on your Rebels, you can kill those all reliced 7* Negotiators with Ahsoka in starting lineup, too. It's more difficult than 5s ofc, and even more rng dependant, but you can still win a good portion.
hogging the top spot all day or getting smacked down for doing so?
You're super welcome! Update, I'm still hanging in top 10 against Neg and Mel, though I gotta admit that Mel is really hard. It occurred to me too, that many of my ships are only around 70% max damage and health cause some pilots are only G11, where as I'm beating R7 Kenobi, Ahsoka and Skywalker! What a great feeling! However, I've decided to start relic'ing my team, starting with Biggs, then Bistan and Scarif Rebel. It's could be a waste as they don't help in Arena or GAC, but my aim is to keep getting 300-400 crystals daily in Fleets, which will help me relic other characters much faster later on. I've never seen a R7 Biggs and Bistan, but I suspect they will walk over Neg with ease since you can do it with G11 / 12 crews.
See my post above, but yes I'm already doing it. I can beat a full R7 Kenobi, Skywalker, Ahsoka, etc, with a few rebels still at G11. HARD, but doable. Now I'm adding G13 and relics to Jyn, Biggs and Bistan, I expect to easily beat those same "harder" Neg. teams.
I've learned.... I don't hold 1st now, I just wait till 1 hour before payout and then climb as high I can, get crystals then back off for 23 hours. Works well. I'm always top 10, often #1.
Relics on Jyn (and any other Cassian's U-wing crew) probably isn't the best investment unless you are going to use Rogue 1 team elsewhere. Cassian's ship do it's job even at low-gear. Imho purely for HMF fleet it's better to put resources to Biggs and Bistan/SRP (after HMF, of course) - survivability of starting lineup is usually the key to victory here.
My shard has rank 1 through 100 Negotiators. The problem if you don't have a Neg. or Malev. is 1st an inability to climb by beating the lunch-line of Negotiators. Before defending, you 1st need to climb.
This is what I've come to realize too. My Bistan is currently slower than HMF and it's a complete crapshoot whether I'll get good RNG to pop unending loyalty on Anakin. I've seen vids from others with faster Bistan and they seem to work much more consistently.