Please CG - just do the right thing

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Mysma
4 posts Member
I really doubt anyone at CG will read this, and it will instead get mercilessly trolled by forum dwellers, but it’s worth a shot...

CG- please, just say you’re sorry and you **** up. Just admit it and do better. That’s all the community really wants.

I’m a 40 year old father of 3, and one of the most important lesson I teach my kids daily is “own up to your mistakes, learn from them, apologize for them, and do better next time”. EA did it with BF2. They did it with FO. Now it’s your turn.

Own your mistakes. Learn from them. Apologize for them. And do better. Please.

Signed - a concerned life long fan of Star Wars who just wants a little transparent honesty.

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  • Nikoms565
    12557 posts Member
    Liath wrote: »
    There was a representation that the GLs would be of equivalent value?

    When they were first released? Sure. Since the multiple buffs to one and the rework to counter the other? Not so much. But as a f2p hoarder, I think you fully understand that - and the issues that such post-release changes create.
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  • TVF
    24403 posts Member
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Liath wrote: »
    There was a representation that the GLs would be of equivalent value?

    When they were first released? Sure.

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  • Liath
    5140 posts Member
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Liath wrote: »
    There was a representation that the GLs would be of equivalent value?

    When they were first released? Sure. Since the multiple buffs to one and the rework to counter the other? Not so much. But as a f2p hoarder, I think you fully understand that - and the issues that such post-release changes create.

    You think I fully understand what? That there was a representation of equality when they were released?

    I am no fan of the current situation, the path that’s gotten us here, or the additional change that’s coming. But “you will get equivalent value from the two characters” doesn’t sound to me like something CG would say.
  • Lrrr
    150 posts Member
    TVF wrote: »
    I'd like to know that too. Most "mistakes" they make (not all, granted) are not actually mistakes, they're just things that some people on a forum don't like. There's a difference.

    Can we agree that owning up to the fact that they negotiated with a cheater after announcing a permanent ban with a zero tolerance policy is at a minimum lying to the player base?

    So I’m not saying they owe the players an apology, but I would think an explanation of the process then and the process going forward would be nice...and honestly if they think they did wrong (which by the permanent banning of the player after the infraction was brought to light kind of shows they do) an apology wouldn’t exactly be out of line either.
  • Mysma wrote: »
    I broke one of my own dad rules by not being clear and to the point. But I figured everyone here saw the **** CG has been pulling and I didn’t need to explain it. Since some have asked:
    1) they clearly stated (paraphrasing) ‘we messed up in 2019. Sorry! We’re gonna do tons in 2020! Promise! New raid! New GL toons! More and more content! Reworks and all sorts of good things!’ And they didn’t deliver. Own up to it. Own it.
    2) JKL is obviously Mace rework. Own it.
    3) lies about cheating. Own it.
    4) better communication. They need to talk to the community regularly. Like Disney does on their discord. Open, regular communication with the community so we know what’s up.

    These are the top four. They need to own up to these things (at least 1, 3, and 4 - doubt they will own 2 ever, even though we all know it). These are the ways they’ve **** up

    I have spoken.

    1) Its the middle of 2020, not the end. They released GLs, the have done some reworks and given us Luke. The lagging content sucks, but they have said they are working on it. Why would they apologize for something they are in the middle of doing?

    2). No it isn't, stop watching clickbait and believing everything on Reddit.

    3). This needs to be addressed as all the evidence being presented by content creators shows they blatantly lied about their cheating policies.

    4). Open discords are terrible places, however i do agree they need to acknowledge the fact that they have skipped the last few Q&As, and generally get back on track with regular communication schedules.
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  • TVF
    24403 posts Member
    Lol at asking CG to apologize for a conspiracy theory.
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  • ZAP
    3128 posts Member
    Mysma wrote: »
    I broke one of my own dad rules by not being clear and to the point. But I figured everyone here saw the **** CG has been pulling and I didn’t need to explain it. Since some have asked:
    1) they clearly stated (paraphrasing) ‘we messed up in 2019. Sorry! We’re gonna do tons in 2020! Promise! New raid! New GL toons! More and more content! Reworks and all sorts of good things!’ And they didn’t deliver. Own up to it. Own it.
    2) JKL is obviously Mace rework. Own it.
    3) lies about cheating. Own it.
    4) better communication. They need to talk to the community regularly. Like Disney does on their discord. Open, regular communication with the community so we know what’s up.

    These are the top four. They need to own up to these things (at least 1, 3, and 4 - doubt they will own 2 ever, even though we all know it). These are the ways they’ve **** up

    I have spoken.

    1) Its the middle of 2020, not the end. They released GLs, the have done some reworks and given us Luke. The lagging content sucks, but they have said they are working on it. Why would they apologize for something they are in the middle of doing?

    2). No it isn't, stop watching clickbait and believing everything on Reddit.

    3). This needs to be addressed as all the evidence being presented by content creators shows they blatantly lied about their cheating policies.

    4). Open discords are terrible places, however i do agree they need to acknowledge the fact that they have skipped the last few Q&As, and generally get back on track with regular communication schedules.

    I agree with the majority of this, except the discord part. Many games use discord for one form of communicating with their player base, it just needs several really good mods to keep the place civil.

  • LordDirt
    1432 posts Member
    How is JKL a Mace rework?
  • ZAP
    3128 posts Member
    LordDirt wrote: »
    How is JKL a Mace rework?

    People are saying that because JKLs kit doesn’t sound like Luke at all, but sounds like it would fit well with Mace.

    I’ve seen more outlandish conspiracy theories.

  • LordDirt
    1432 posts Member
    ZAP wrote: »
    LordDirt wrote: »
    How is JKL a Mace rework?

    People are saying that because JKLs kit doesn’t sound like Luke at all, but sounds like it would fit well with Mace.

    I’ve seen more outlandish conspiracy theories.

    It doesn't make sense because of the journey part. No way they would have had all that sitting around.
  • ZAP
    3128 posts Member
    LordDirt wrote: »
    ZAP wrote: »
    LordDirt wrote: »
    How is JKL a Mace rework?

    People are saying that because JKLs kit doesn’t sound like Luke at all, but sounds like it would fit well with Mace.

    I’ve seen more outlandish conspiracy theories.

    It doesn't make sense because of the journey part. No way they would have had all that sitting around.

    Yeah, there’s a lot to it that doesn’t make sense, but that doesn’t mean that maybe some parts of the kit were developed already for a mace rework and the JKL event.

    Most kits do fit their respective character well and with JKL, it’s just a little off. 🤷‍♂️

  • Nikoms565
    12557 posts Member
    TVF wrote: »
    They didn't.

    They didn't say it because they didn't have to - the two were more equivalent in terms of value, upon release. They were valuable in different ways and people understood that. People made gear, relic and investments based on those relative values - then, after the fact, CG changed them.

    That's the issue - and again, I think you and others fully understand that. Not quite sure why people are more focused on winning an argument rather than being factually correct. Par for this forum, I guess.
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  • Apology or not - the silence is deafening. Road ahead is very late and would be nice to consider over weekend versus June being early next week.
  • Nikoms565
    12557 posts Member
    Maxx121312 wrote: »
    Apology or not - the silence is deafening. Road ahead is very late and would be nice to consider over weekend versus June being early next week.

    What silence? They already said they're looking at buffing SLKylo's ai.....again. :D
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  • Delvorin
    139 posts Member
    edited June 26
    I'd say the only one that really matters and legit is the cheating and banning. I think it's good when CG enforces their own rules and bans accounts for breaking them. The problem is giving preferential treatment and that should be apologized for. Don't tell us you are trying to create a fair, competitive environment and then allowing banned accounts to be used again.

    With the theory that JKL is a kit intended for Mace, I couldn't care less. I like what I see from the character and can't wait to get him the second time the event comes around. I don't think they should have to apologize when they really didn't do anything wrong.
  • TVF wrote: »
    Lol at asking CG to apologize for a conspiracy theory.

    Screen shots of them negotiating with cheaters is a conspiracy... Hmmm I'm pretty sure that's regarded as evidence
  • Delvorin wrote: »
    I'd say the only one that really matters and legit is the cheating and banning. I think it's good when CG enforces their own rules and bans accounts for breaking them. The problem is giving preferential treatment and that should be apologized for. Don't tell us you are trying to create a fair, competitive environment and then allowing banned accounts to be used again.

    With the theory that JKL is a kit intended for Mace, I couldn't care less. I like what I see from the character and can't wait to get him the second time the event comes around. I don't think they should have to apologize when they really didn't do anything wrong.

    One of the best posts I've seen in a while I commend you sir
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