I only relic what is necessary and as far as is necessary. My roster is entirely Arena and GAC focused. Yours is not. That's fine, but you are blaming CG for your own choices.
And this right here is the very problem with the PVP aspect in this game. Congrats, you were able to build your roster EXACTLY how you need to play to have an edge. You don't see the issue there? Sure, I'll say this system is better than the original in terms of not punishing older players with bloated rosters but this new system forces players to play one way. No room for fun, no room to build some sweet relic'd DS teams to help yourself and guild progress in DS Geo. How many waves can you get for your guild with your arena and GAC only built roster? This is exactly what is wrong with the current system. Not sure what they can do to fix it, but to have to play and build by a certain standard isn't a game imo.
I only relic what is necessary and as far as is necessary. My roster is entirely Arena and GAC focused. Yours is not. That's fine, but you are blaming CG for your own choices.
And this right here is the very problem with the PVP aspect in this game. Congrats, you were able to build your roster EXACTLY how you need to play to have an edge. You don't see the issue there? Sure, I'll say this system is better than the original in terms of not punishing older players with bloated rosters but this new system forces players to play one way. No room for fun, no room to build some sweet relic'd DS teams to help yourself and guild progress in DS Geo. How many waves can you get for your guild with your arena and GAC only built roster? This is exactly what is wrong with the current system. Not sure what they can do to fix it, but to have to play and build by a certain standard isn't a game imo.
But you choose to relic toons that are not GAC optimal.
FWIW I'm pulling my weight just fine in TB, shrug.
I only relic what is necessary and as far as is necessary. My roster is entirely Arena and GAC focused. Yours is not. That's fine, but you are blaming CG for your own choices.
And this right here is the very problem with the PVP aspect in this game. Congrats, you were able to build your roster EXACTLY how you need to play to have an edge. You don't see the issue there? Sure, I'll say this system is better than the original in terms of not punishing older players with bloated rosters but this new system forces players to play one way. No room for fun, no room to build some sweet relic'd DS teams to help yourself and guild progress in DS Geo. How many waves can you get for your guild with your arena and GAC only built roster? This is exactly what is wrong with the current system. Not sure what they can do to fix it, but to have to play and build by a certain standard isn't a game imo.
But you choose to relic toons that are not GAC optimal.
FWIW I'm pulling my weight just fine in TB, shrug.
Looking at that roster I highly doubt you pull any weight on DSGeo for your GP level. But hey, enjoy them super easy GAC matches while I go and shrug. Take care
I only relic what is necessary and as far as is necessary. My roster is entirely Arena and GAC focused. Yours is not. That's fine, but you are blaming CG for your own choices.
And this right here is the very problem with the PVP aspect in this game. Congrats, you were able to build your roster EXACTLY how you need to play to have an edge. You don't see the issue there? Sure, I'll say this system is better than the original in terms of not punishing older players with bloated rosters but this new system forces players to play one way. No room for fun, no room to build some sweet relic'd DS teams to help yourself and guild progress in DS Geo. How many waves can you get for your guild with your arena and GAC only built roster? This is exactly what is wrong with the current system. Not sure what they can do to fix it, but to have to play and build by a certain standard isn't a game imo.
But you choose to relic toons that are not GAC optimal.
FWIW I'm pulling my weight just fine in TB, shrug.
Looking at that roster I highly doubt you pull any weight on DSGeo for your GP level. But hey, enjoy them super easy GAC matches while I go and shrug. Take care
Haha what.
I'll grant you I don't contribute 15 GET2 or whatever it is for the Acklay mission, and I am not eligible for Wat because I was in a much smaller guild for years. But my guild seems perfectly happy to have me, especially because more help is needed on the LS side and I have both Rey and JKL. You don't need a ton of relic DS toons to contribute in DS Geo. Is your guild new to it or something?
There isn't a reason to post my GG account here. Not interested in comparing rosters, was just putting my opinions on the GAC match making system. Thanks for the tips.
There isn't a reason to post my GG account here. Not interested in comparing rosters, was just putting my opinions on the GAC match making system. Thanks for the tips.
Everything is relative and you apparently have something to hide. Good chat.
And this right here is the very problem with the PVP aspect in this game. Congrats, you were able to build your roster EXACTLY how you need to play
to have an edge. You don't see the issue there? Sure, I'll say this system is better than the original in terms of not punishing older players with bloated rosters but this new system forces players to play one way.
Matchmaking by total GP not only punished older players with TB-bloat but also collectors and anyone with a fleet-heavy roster. It really did require GP suppression to an extent which was frustrating and fun-killing. If I still had screenshots of the things I had to do back then just to have a prayer of competing with my fleet-heavy roster, you would have an apopleptic fit!
There is plenty of room for fun but if you do daft things in the name of fun or for any other reason then you will need to learn to live with the consequences of your choices.
no room to build some sweet relic'd DS teams to help yourself and guild progress in DS Geo. How many waves can you get for your guild with your arena and GAC only built roster?
A GAC-oriented roster actually lends itself very well to TB & TW, with the possible exception of LS Geo TB which is balanced for future power creep and currently just plain brutal. You can do a lot in DS Geo TB with squads that have few or no relics, provided you know how to play.
This is exactly what is wrong with the current system. Not sure what they can do to fix it, but to have to play and build by a certain standard isn't a game imo.
No, this is exactly what is wrong with your understanding of the current system.
Looking at that roster I highly doubt you pull any weight on DSGeo for your GP level. But hey, enjoy them super easy GAC matches while I go and shrug. Take care
ROFLMAO!!!! You clearly have no clue about his roster or about DS Geo TB. Take care!
Everything is relative and you apparently have something to hide. Good chat.
I gave you my reason why I'm not going to post my GG account, not sure why you claim I'm trying to hide anything. Relax, was just using your example that you gave showing the fundamental flaws the system has. But it was a pleasure as always.
Edit: Hope this makes you feel better though cause it's obviously super important to you and others.
ROFLMAO!!!! You clearly have no clue about his roster or about DS Geo TB. Take care!
Well get off the floor my friend because I do know about his roster, he LITERALLY posted it. And you're right, I have zero clue or inclination about DSGeo. I guess when I lead my guild in CBM's completed with much less GP it must have been just a lucky week. You all need to chill, it's ok for criticism on a system that OBVIOUSLY has its flaws.
ROFLMAO!!!! You clearly have no clue about his roster or about DS Geo TB. Take care!
Well get off the floor my friend because I do know about his roster, he LITERALLY posted it. And you're right, I have zero clue or inclination about DSGeo. I guess when I lead my guild in CBM's completed with much less GP it must have been just a lucky week. You all need to chill, it's ok for criticism on a system that OBVIOUSLY has its flaws.
Crappy guild? Because in ours virtually everyone has the same number (all) CBM's completed unless someone is too slow to battle before 3*
ROFLMAO!!!! You clearly have no clue about his roster or about DS Geo TB. Take care!
Well get off the floor my friend because I do know about his roster, he LITERALLY posted it. And you're right, I have zero clue or inclination about DSGeo. I guess when I lead my guild in CBM's completed with much less GP it must have been just a lucky week. You all need to chill, it's ok for criticism on a system that OBVIOUSLY has its flaws.
Crappy guild? Because in ours virtually everyone has the same number (all) CBM's completed unless someone is too slow to battle before 3*
Not by any means nor standards are we a crappy guild. But I thank you for asking.
I don’t think you guys are getting it, I know it’s decided on top 80 and I’m entitled to think the match making is extremely poor.
Oh, we get it. I simply disagree with you that your requested change would make matches more fair. They would help you to easier matches, yes, but not more fair matches.
Ps honestly you guys do that inventory stuff you must see this game as a day job.. if it works for you that’s cool.
The most important part is to not press "equip" or "upgrade" just because you can. You don't need too over complicate things. Just don't press it until it benefits you.
My change?
I said it needs changing I haven’t actually said how it should change so my idea is to change it as there must be a fairer way.
So you’re making out I’ve said a way to make it fairer for me when I haven't.
You want it changed to not match you against opponents with 2 GLs and JKL since you only have 1 GL. That's a change. It's a there in your OP. And no, it doesn't make matches more fair.
For like the 5th time I don’t expect it to change but don’t tell me this matchmaking is fair.. it’s not putting relics on a couple of toons shouldn’t = an extra GL with 6 zeta’s and a JKL.
Yes I know it does... doesn’t mean it should.
You're still confusing fair with even. Learn the difference.
Why should you have easier matches just because you invested your gear and relic materials poorly? That wouldn't be fair.
I haven’t invested poorly again because I haven’t spent enough to have two GLs yet
Excuse me if I don’t take advice from someone who doesn’t even have a roster big enough or good enough to even draw 2 GLs...
Okay even and fair is exactly the same thing, I don’t even care about winning but would be nice to have a chance i mean I’m repeating myself here and you lot that aren’t even in the same position as you play Star Wars galaxy of hoarders just wanna bark the same rubbish over and over.
I don’t think you guys are getting it, I know it’s decided on top 80 and I’m entitled to think the match making is extremely poor.
Oh, we get it. I simply disagree with you that your requested change would make matches more fair. They would help you to easier matches, yes, but not more fair matches.
Ps honestly you guys do that inventory stuff you must see this game as a day job.. if it works for you that’s cool.
The most important part is to not press "equip" or "upgrade" just because you can. You don't need too over complicate things. Just don't press it until it benefits you.
My change?
I said it needs changing I haven’t actually said how it should change so my idea is to change it as there must be a fairer way.
So you’re making out I’ve said a way to make it fairer for me when I haven't.
You want it changed to not match you against opponents with 2 GLs and JKL since you only have 1 GL. That's a change. It's a there in your OP. And no, it doesn't make matches more fair.
For like the 5th time I don’t expect it to change but don’t tell me this matchmaking is fair.. it’s not putting relics on a couple of toons shouldn’t = an extra GL with 6 zeta’s and a JKL.
Yes I know it does... doesn’t mean it should.
You're still confusing fair with even. Learn the difference.
Why should you have easier matches just because you invested your gear and relic materials poorly? That wouldn't be fair.
I haven’t invested poorly again because I haven’t spent enough to have two GLs yet
Excuse me if I don’t take advice from someone who doesn’t even have a roster big enough or good enough to even draw 2 GLs...
Okay even and fair is exactly the same thing, I don’t even care about winning but would be nice to have a chance i mean I’m repeating myself here and you lot that aren’t even in the same position as you play Star Wars galaxy of hoarders just wanna bark the same rubbish over and over.
Exactly. Have you seen his 3 recent GAC opponents? Hahahaha I haven't gotten a good laugh like that in a while. No wonder why they fight so vigorously to protect the system. Honestly laughable at best but hey, at least he's a winner in his eyes.
I don’t think you guys are getting it, I know it’s decided on top 80 and I’m entitled to think the match making is extremely poor.
Oh, we get it. I simply disagree with you that your requested change would make matches more fair. They would help you to easier matches, yes, but not more fair matches.
Ps honestly you guys do that inventory stuff you must see this game as a day job.. if it works for you that’s cool.
The most important part is to not press "equip" or "upgrade" just because you can. You don't need too over complicate things. Just don't press it until it benefits you.
My change?
I said it needs changing I haven’t actually said how it should change so my idea is to change it as there must be a fairer way.
So you’re making out I’ve said a way to make it fairer for me when I haven't.
You want it changed to not match you against opponents with 2 GLs and JKL since you only have 1 GL. That's a change. It's a there in your OP. And no, it doesn't make matches more fair.
For like the 5th time I don’t expect it to change but don’t tell me this matchmaking is fair.. it’s not putting relics on a couple of toons shouldn’t = an extra GL with 6 zeta’s and a JKL.
Yes I know it does... doesn’t mean it should.
You're still confusing fair with even. Learn the difference.
Why should you have easier matches just because you invested your gear and relic materials poorly? That wouldn't be fair.
I haven’t invested poorly again because I haven’t spent enough to have two GLs yet
Excuse me if I don’t take advice from someone who doesn’t even have a roster big enough or good enough to even draw 2 GLs...
Okay even and fair is exactly the same thing, I don’t even care about winning but would be nice to have a chance i mean I’m repeating myself here and you lot that aren’t even in the same position as you play Star Wars galaxy of hoarders just wanna bark the same rubbish over and over.
Exactly. Have you seen his 3 recent GAC opponents? Hahahaha I haven't gotten a good laugh like that in a while. No wonder why they fight so vigorously to protect the system. Honestly laughable at best but hey, at least he's a winner in his eyes.
Exactly why would they want it to change while they’re getting easy match ups... it’s kinda playing the system tbh, must make it a fun game Hoarding everything though.
Ps wouldn’t bother posting your roster he will just tell you EP and bossk are a waste of time (even though everyone has them)
None of them are even remotely in my position tbh so they can’t exactly say I’m wrong anyhow most don’t even face a GL 😅
Exactly why would they want it to change while they’re getting easy match ups... it’s kinda playing the system tbh, must make it a fun game Hoarding everything though.
Ps wouldn’t bother posting your roster he will just tell you EP and bossk are a waste of time (even though everyone has them)
None of them are even remotely in my position tbh so they can’t exactly say I’m wrong anyhow most don’t even face a GL 😅
Reliable GAC & TW holds along with 16 CM's complete in Geo is far from waste of time. And I'm well aware how they all work here in the forums. They like to dance in circles constantly lol
I don’t think you guys are getting it, I know it’s decided on top 80 and I’m entitled to think the match making is extremely poor.
Oh, we get it. I simply disagree with you that your requested change would make matches more fair. They would help you to easier matches, yes, but not more fair matches.
Ps honestly you guys do that inventory stuff you must see this game as a day job.. if it works for you that’s cool.
The most important part is to not press "equip" or "upgrade" just because you can. You don't need too over complicate things. Just don't press it until it benefits you.
My change?
I said it needs changing I haven’t actually said how it should change so my idea is to change it as there must be a fairer way.
So you’re making out I’ve said a way to make it fairer for me when I haven't.
You want it changed to not match you against opponents with 2 GLs and JKL since you only have 1 GL. That's a change. It's a there in your OP. And no, it doesn't make matches more fair.
For like the 5th time I don’t expect it to change but don’t tell me this matchmaking is fair.. it’s not putting relics on a couple of toons shouldn’t = an extra GL with 6 zeta’s and a JKL.
Yes I know it does... doesn’t mean it should.
You're still confusing fair with even. Learn the difference.
Why should you have easier matches just because you invested your gear and relic materials poorly? That wouldn't be fair.
I haven’t invested poorly again because I haven’t spent enough to have two GLs yet
Excuse me if I don’t take advice from someone who doesn’t even have a roster big enough or good enough to even draw 2 GLs...
Okay even and fair is exactly the same thing, I don’t even care about winning but would be nice to have a chance i mean I’m repeating myself here and you lot that aren’t even in the same position as you play Star Wars galaxy of hoarders just wanna bark the same rubbish over and over.
Exactly. Have you seen his 3 recent GAC opponents? Hahahaha I haven't gotten a good laugh like that in a while. No wonder why they fight so vigorously to protect the system. Honestly laughable at best but hey, at least he's a winner in his eyes.
Exactly why would they want it to change while they’re getting easy match ups... it’s kinda playing the system tbh, must make it a fun game Hoarding everything though.
Ps wouldn’t bother posting your roster he will just tell you EP and bossk are a waste of time (even though everyone has them)
None of them are even remotely in my position tbh so they can’t exactly say I’m wrong anyhow most don’t even face a GL 😅
I stated clearly that I’m in your position. Have 1 GL, well on the way to unlocking the second. No JKL.
I have never drawn a double GL but I’m sure I will soon, with 4 toons ready, 4 at g13 and the remaining 4 at g12+ for SLKR. I’ll probably draw one in either of the next 2 rounds of this GAC. I could have hoarded to avoid it for sure, but I chose not to, and will not be coming on here to complain if and when I do meet a double GL.
But I must dispute your Bossk claim. When I look around my arena or fleet shard, or my own guild, I really don’t see that “everyone” has Bossk at relic level. And that’s the thing with relics. Every single level you add costs resources and also inflates your GP. It’s a delicate balancing act, and I for one don’t think the benefit of Bossk at relic levels justifies the GP inflation.
Exactly why would they want it to change while they’re getting easy match ups... it’s kinda playing the system tbh, must make it a fun game Hoarding everything though.
Ps wouldn’t bother posting your roster he will just tell you EP and bossk are a waste of time (even though everyone has them)
None of them are even remotely in my position tbh so they can’t exactly say I’m wrong anyhow most don’t even face a GL 😅
Reliable GAC & TW holds along with 16 CM's complete in Geo is far from waste of time. And I'm well aware how they all work here in the forums. They like to dance in circles constantly lol
I wouldn’t call your BH a “waste of time” (something you and Paulos999 have said) but I would question whether they were worth all that investment.
There are several teams that earn perfect waves up to phase 4 in DSGeoTB. Some of them might struggle to match that in phase 4 itself, but one extra combat wave seems like a small reward for that level of investment.
Also, what was your previous forum name? You seem to know an awful lot about them for someone that’s been around <4 weeks?
I don’t think you guys are getting it, I know it’s decided on top 80 and I’m entitled to think the match making is extremely poor.
Oh, we get it. I simply disagree with you that your requested change would make matches more fair. They would help you to easier matches, yes, but not more fair matches.
Ps honestly you guys do that inventory stuff you must see this game as a day job.. if it works for you that’s cool.
The most important part is to not press "equip" or "upgrade" just because you can. You don't need too over complicate things. Just don't press it until it benefits you.
My change?
I said it needs changing I haven’t actually said how it should change so my idea is to change it as there must be a fairer way.
So you’re making out I’ve said a way to make it fairer for me when I haven't.
You want it changed to not match you against opponents with 2 GLs and JKL since you only have 1 GL. That's a change. It's a there in your OP. And no, it doesn't make matches more fair.
For like the 5th time I don’t expect it to change but don’t tell me this matchmaking is fair.. it’s not putting relics on a couple of toons shouldn’t = an extra GL with 6 zeta’s and a JKL.
Yes I know it does... doesn’t mean it should.
You're still confusing fair with even. Learn the difference.
Why should you have easier matches just because you invested your gear and relic materials poorly? That wouldn't be fair.
I haven’t invested poorly again because I haven’t spent enough to have two GLs yet
Excuse me if I don’t take advice from someone who doesn’t even have a roster big enough or good enough to even draw 2 GLs...
Okay even and fair is exactly the same thing, I don’t even care about winning but would be nice to have a chance i mean I’m repeating myself here and you lot that aren’t even in the same position as you play Star Wars galaxy of hoarders just wanna bark the same rubbish over and over.
Exactly. Have you seen his 3 recent GAC opponents? Hahahaha I haven't gotten a good laugh like that in a while. No wonder why they fight so vigorously to protect the system. Honestly laughable at best but hey, at least he's a winner in his eyes.
Exactly why would they want it to change while they’re getting easy match ups... it’s kinda playing the system tbh, must make it a fun game Hoarding everything though.
Ps wouldn’t bother posting your roster he will just tell you EP and bossk are a waste of time (even though everyone has them)
None of them are even remotely in my position tbh so they can’t exactly say I’m wrong anyhow most don’t even face a GL 😅
I stated clearly that I’m in your position. Have 1 GL, well on the way to unlocking the second. No JKL.
I have never drawn a double GL but I’m sure I will soon, with 4 toons ready, 4 at g13 and the remaining 4 at g12+ for SLKR. I’ll probably draw one in either of the next 2 rounds of this GAC. I could have hoarded to avoid it for sure, but I chose not to, and will not be coming on here to complain if and when I do meet a double GL.
But I must dispute your Bossk claim. When I look around my arena or fleet shard, or my own guild, I really don’t see that “everyone” has Bossk at relic level. And that’s the thing with relics. Every single level you add costs resources and also inflates your GP. It’s a delicate balancing act, and I for one don’t think the benefit of Bossk at relic levels justifies the GP inflation.
Nah he’s just amazing in all game modes including fleet, sorry everyone around my GP has bossk at relics as he is awesome.
Don’t even question bossk man pivotal in this game.
I will question it. I’m 6.2M GP and I’m getting by just fine without him relic’d. I’m taking my fleet arena position every day (unless I get caught up with work / family) with him g12.5 without any issues.
I was going to look at your profile again, but I notice you went back and deleted your .gg link, so I can’t.
I’d love to know what I’d get out of taking him to r5 that I’m not already getting.
I will question it. I’m 6.2M GP and I’m getting by just fine without him relic’d. I’m taking my fleet arena position every day (unless I get caught up with work / family) with him g12.5 without any issues.
I was going to look at your profile again, but I notice you went back and deleted your .gg link, so I can’t.
I’d love to know what I’d get out of taking him to r5 that I’m not already getting.
A decent defence team, can you beat the bounty hunter challenge tier for relic pieces?
I will question it. I’m 6.2M GP and I’m getting by just fine without him relic’d. I’m taking my fleet arena position every day (unless I get caught up with work / family) with him g12.5 without any issues.
I was going to look at your profile again, but I notice you went back and deleted your .gg link, so I can’t.
I’d love to know what I’d get out of taking him to r5 that I’m not already getting.
A decent defence team, can you beat the bounty hunter challenge tier for relic pieces?
A good TW team?
Don’t say he’s as good at G12 he’s not.
BH are only decent on defence in GA / TW if your opponent misplays them. And since you’re on here complaining about getting drawn with double GLs all the time, I’m quite sure your BH aren’t helping you in GAC at the moment. My guild has lost 2 TWs this year, and I don’t think me not having relic Bossk was the reason we lost those.
No, I can’t complete that tier. Can you, with just Bossk, Boba, Jango at relic level?
I will say it. Other than a handful of relic mats a month (which I’m not convinced you’re getting either) I don’t see any benefit to taking him to g13 at all, let alone r5.
Oh, we get it. I simply disagree with you that your requested change would make matches more fair. They would help you to easier matches, yes, but not more fair matches.
Ps honestly you guys do that inventory stuff you must see this game as a day job.. if it works for you that’s cool.
The most important part is to not press "equip" or "upgrade" just because you can. You don't need too over complicate things. Just don't press it until it benefits you.
My change?
I said it needs changing I haven’t actually said how it should change so my idea is to change it as there must be a fairer way.
So you’re making out I’ve said a way to make it fairer for me when I haven't.
You want it changed to not match you against opponents with 2 GLs and JKL since you only have 1 GL. That's a change. It's a there in your OP. And no, it doesn't make matches more fair.
For like the 5th time I don’t expect it to change but don’t tell me this matchmaking is fair.. it’s not putting relics on a couple of toons shouldn’t = an extra GL with 6 zeta’s and a JKL.
Yes I know it does... doesn’t mean it should.
You're still confusing fair with even. Learn the difference.
Why should you have easier matches just because you invested your gear and relic materials poorly? That wouldn't be fair.
I haven’t invested poorly again because I haven’t spent enough to have two GLs yet
Excuse me if I don’t take advice from someone who doesn’t even have a roster big enough or good enough to even draw 2 GLs...
Okay even and fair is exactly the same thing, I don’t even care about winning but would be nice to have a chance i mean I’m repeating myself here and you lot that aren’t even in the same position as you play Star Wars galaxy of hoarders just wanna bark the same rubbish over and over.
For GAC purposes you invested your gear and relic materials poorly, yes. Claiming otherwise indicates that you don't understand matchmaking in GAC.
Even and fair are not the same thing. Rewarding players for building a weak roster while punishing players that built a strong roster (for GAC purposes) is not fair. It may result in more even matches but not in more fair matches. For some reason you fail to see this.
I will question it. I’m 6.2M GP and I’m getting by just fine without him relic’d. I’m taking my fleet arena position every day (unless I get caught up with work / family) with him g12.5 without any issues.
I was going to look at your profile again, but I notice you went back and deleted your .gg link, so I can’t.
I’d love to know what I’d get out of taking him to r5 that I’m not already getting.
A decent defence team, can you beat the bounty hunter challenge tier for relic pieces?
A good TW team?
Don’t say he’s as good at G12 he’s not.
BH are only decent on defence in GA / TW if your opponent misplays them. And since you’re on here complaining about getting drawn with double GLs all the time, I’m quite sure your BH aren’t helping you in GAC at the moment. My guild has lost 2 TWs this year, and I don’t think me not having relic Bossk was the reason we lost those.
No, I can’t complete that tier. Can you, with just Bossk, Boba, Jango at relic level?
I will say it. Other than a handful of relic mats a month (which I’m not convinced you’re getting either) I don’t see any benefit to taking him to g13 at all, let alone r5.
Yes I can complete it... (awkward) oh so because your guild wins TWs that makes you awesome right anyhow I’m not arguing about it, end of the day still isn’t right in my opinion and atm we’re going back and forward I’m not gonna keep repeating what I said yesterday you guys enjoy Star Wars galaxy of hoarders.
They won’t change it I’m sure but didn’t hurt to ask, but turns out there is a lot of hoarders who like getting easy match ups 🤷🏻♂️
Oh, we get it. I simply disagree with you that your requested change would make matches more fair. They would help you to easier matches, yes, but not more fair matches.
Ps honestly you guys do that inventory stuff you must see this game as a day job.. if it works for you that’s cool.
The most important part is to not press "equip" or "upgrade" just because you can. You don't need too over complicate things. Just don't press it until it benefits you.
My change?
I said it needs changing I haven’t actually said how it should change so my idea is to change it as there must be a fairer way.
So you’re making out I’ve said a way to make it fairer for me when I haven't.
You want it changed to not match you against opponents with 2 GLs and JKL since you only have 1 GL. That's a change. It's a there in your OP. And no, it doesn't make matches more fair.
For like the 5th time I don’t expect it to change but don’t tell me this matchmaking is fair.. it’s not putting relics on a couple of toons shouldn’t = an extra GL with 6 zeta’s and a JKL.
Yes I know it does... doesn’t mean it should.
You're still confusing fair with even. Learn the difference.
Why should you have easier matches just because you invested your gear and relic materials poorly? That wouldn't be fair.
I haven’t invested poorly again because I haven’t spent enough to have two GLs yet
Excuse me if I don’t take advice from someone who doesn’t even have a roster big enough or good enough to even draw 2 GLs...
Okay even and fair is exactly the same thing, I don’t even care about winning but would be nice to have a chance i mean I’m repeating myself here and you lot that aren’t even in the same position as you play Star Wars galaxy of hoarders just wanna bark the same rubbish over and over.
For GAC purposes you invested your gear and relic materials poorly, yes. Claiming otherwise indicates that you don't understand matchmaking in GAC.
Even and fair are not the same thing. Rewarding players for building a weak roster while punishing players that built a strong roster (for GAC purposes) is not fair. It may result in more even matches but not in more fair matches. For some reason you fail to see this.
Yes even and fair are the same thing... if it’s even it’s fair and I have a chance to win, seriously I’m not going back and forth with you anymore...
Again my roster is not weak because I haven’t spent enough for a second GL are you a bit challenged?
How wouldn’t it be fair for people with people with 2 GLs to draw each other! If I have one I’m more than happy drawing one, if I had two I would be more than happy to draw people with two.
It’s even! It’s a competition.. But again you guys enjoy easy match ups so you won’t see it any other way will you. 😴
Gotta say I can see why a lot of people don’t come here with questions or suggestions... so many people who just want the game their way because they’re happy playing galaxy of hoarders, look at the posts I’m not the only one that thinks matchmaking is crap for wanting even matches 👍🏻
Gotta say I can see why a lot of people don’t come here with questions or suggestions... so many people who just want the game their way because they’re happy playing galaxy of hoarders, look at the posts I’m not the only one that thinks matchmaking is crap for wanting even matches 👍🏻
It’s an odd thing to get frustrated when people on a public forum don’t all agree with you.
Some final comments from me:
- I’ve already told you I’m not a hoarder. I’m gearing the SLKR toons (already got Rey) as soon as I get a piece ready.
- well done you on completing t2 of rebel roundup. Here’s something to think about:
To take Jango, Boba and Bossk to r5, you had to use 195 / 180 / 45 signal data, as well as 60 heat sink and hundreds of circuit board, bronzium wiring etc.
How many t2 completions until you earn all that back?
- “that makes you awesome”? How old are you? You told me that relic Bossk was good for TW, I responded with a counter. That’s how debate works.
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And this right here is the very problem with the PVP aspect in this game. Congrats, you were able to build your roster EXACTLY how you need to play to have an edge. You don't see the issue there? Sure, I'll say this system is better than the original in terms of not punishing older players with bloated rosters but this new system forces players to play one way. No room for fun, no room to build some sweet relic'd DS teams to help yourself and guild progress in DS Geo. How many waves can you get for your guild with your arena and GAC only built roster? This is exactly what is wrong with the current system. Not sure what they can do to fix it, but to have to play and build by a certain standard isn't a game imo.
But you choose to relic toons that are not GAC optimal.
FWIW I'm pulling my weight just fine in TB, shrug.
Looking at that roster I highly doubt you pull any weight on DSGeo for your GP level. But hey, enjoy them super easy GAC matches while I go and shrug. Take care
Haha what.
I'll grant you I don't contribute 15 GET2 or whatever it is for the Acklay mission, and I am not eligible for Wat because I was in a much smaller guild for years. But my guild seems perfectly happy to have me, especially because more help is needed on the LS side and I have both Rey and JKL. You don't need a ton of relic DS toons to contribute in DS Geo. Is your guild new to it or something?
There isn't a reason to post my GG account here. Not interested in comparing rosters, was just putting my opinions on the GAC match making system. Thanks for the tips.
Everything is relative and you apparently have something to hide. Good chat.
There is plenty of room for fun but if you do daft things in the name of fun or for any other reason then you will need to learn to live with the consequences of your choices.
A GAC-oriented roster actually lends itself very well to TB & TW, with the possible exception of LS Geo TB which is balanced for future power creep and currently just plain brutal. You can do a lot in DS Geo TB with squads that have few or no relics, provided you know how to play.
No, this is exactly what is wrong with your understanding of the current system.
ROFLMAO!!!! You clearly have no clue about his roster or about DS Geo TB. Take care!
I gave you my reason why I'm not going to post my GG account, not sure why you claim I'm trying to hide anything. Relax, was just using your example that you gave showing the fundamental flaws the system has. But it was a pleasure as always.
Edit: Hope this makes you feel better though cause it's obviously super important to you and others.
Well get off the floor my friend because I do know about his roster, he LITERALLY posted it. And you're right, I have zero clue or inclination about DSGeo. I guess when I lead my guild in CBM's completed with much less GP it must have been just a lucky week. You all need to chill, it's ok for criticism on a system that OBVIOUSLY has its flaws.
Crappy guild? Because in ours virtually everyone has the same number (all) CBM's completed unless someone is too slow to battle before 3*
Not by any means nor standards are we a crappy guild. But I thank you for asking.
I haven’t invested poorly again because I haven’t spent enough to have two GLs yet
Excuse me if I don’t take advice from someone who doesn’t even have a roster big enough or good enough to even draw 2 GLs...
Okay even and fair is exactly the same thing, I don’t even care about winning but would be nice to have a chance i mean I’m repeating myself here and you lot that aren’t even in the same position as you play Star Wars galaxy of hoarders just wanna bark the same rubbish over and over.
Exactly. Have you seen his 3 recent GAC opponents? Hahahaha I haven't gotten a good laugh like that in a while. No wonder why they fight so vigorously to protect the system. Honestly laughable at best but hey, at least he's a winner in his eyes.
Exactly why would they want it to change while they’re getting easy match ups... it’s kinda playing the system tbh, must make it a fun game Hoarding everything though.
Ps wouldn’t bother posting your roster he will just tell you EP and bossk are a waste of time (even though everyone has them)
None of them are even remotely in my position tbh so they can’t exactly say I’m wrong anyhow most don’t even face a GL 😅
Reliable GAC & TW holds along with 16 CM's complete in Geo is far from waste of time. And I'm well aware how they all work here in the forums. They like to dance in circles constantly lol
https://swgoh.gg/p/343174317/
I have never drawn a double GL but I’m sure I will soon, with 4 toons ready, 4 at g13 and the remaining 4 at g12+ for SLKR. I’ll probably draw one in either of the next 2 rounds of this GAC. I could have hoarded to avoid it for sure, but I chose not to, and will not be coming on here to complain if and when I do meet a double GL.
But I must dispute your Bossk claim. When I look around my arena or fleet shard, or my own guild, I really don’t see that “everyone” has Bossk at relic level. And that’s the thing with relics. Every single level you add costs resources and also inflates your GP. It’s a delicate balancing act, and I for one don’t think the benefit of Bossk at relic levels justifies the GP inflation.
There are several teams that earn perfect waves up to phase 4 in DSGeoTB. Some of them might struggle to match that in phase 4 itself, but one extra combat wave seems like a small reward for that level of investment.
Also, what was your previous forum name? You seem to know an awful lot about them for someone that’s been around <4 weeks?
Nah he’s just amazing in all game modes including fleet, sorry everyone around my GP has bossk at relics as he is awesome.
Don’t even question bossk man pivotal in this game.
I was going to look at your profile again, but I notice you went back and deleted your .gg link, so I can’t.
I’d love to know what I’d get out of taking him to r5 that I’m not already getting.
A decent defence team, can you beat the bounty hunter challenge tier for relic pieces?
A good TW team?
Don’t say he’s as good at G12 he’s not.
BH are only decent on defence in GA / TW if your opponent misplays them. And since you’re on here complaining about getting drawn with double GLs all the time, I’m quite sure your BH aren’t helping you in GAC at the moment. My guild has lost 2 TWs this year, and I don’t think me not having relic Bossk was the reason we lost those.
No, I can’t complete that tier. Can you, with just Bossk, Boba, Jango at relic level?
I will say it. Other than a handful of relic mats a month (which I’m not convinced you’re getting either) I don’t see any benefit to taking him to g13 at all, let alone r5.
For GAC purposes you invested your gear and relic materials poorly, yes. Claiming otherwise indicates that you don't understand matchmaking in GAC.
Even and fair are not the same thing. Rewarding players for building a weak roster while punishing players that built a strong roster (for GAC purposes) is not fair. It may result in more even matches but not in more fair matches. For some reason you fail to see this.
Yes I can complete it... (awkward) oh so because your guild wins TWs that makes you awesome right anyhow I’m not arguing about it, end of the day still isn’t right in my opinion and atm we’re going back and forward I’m not gonna keep repeating what I said yesterday you guys enjoy Star Wars galaxy of hoarders.
They won’t change it I’m sure but didn’t hurt to ask, but turns out there is a lot of hoarders who like getting easy match ups 🤷🏻♂️
Yes even and fair are the same thing... if it’s even it’s fair and I have a chance to win, seriously I’m not going back and forth with you anymore...
Again my roster is not weak because I haven’t spent enough for a second GL are you a bit challenged?
How wouldn’t it be fair for people with people with 2 GLs to draw each other! If I have one I’m more than happy drawing one, if I had two I would be more than happy to draw people with two.
It’s even! It’s a competition.. But again you guys enjoy easy match ups so you won’t see it any other way will you. 😴
Some final comments from me:
- I’ve already told you I’m not a hoarder. I’m gearing the SLKR toons (already got Rey) as soon as I get a piece ready.
- well done you on completing t2 of rebel roundup. Here’s something to think about:
To take Jango, Boba and Bossk to r5, you had to use 195 / 180 / 45 signal data, as well as 60 heat sink and hundreds of circuit board, bronzium wiring etc.
How many t2 completions until you earn all that back?
- “that makes you awesome”? How old are you? You told me that relic Bossk was good for TW, I responded with a counter. That’s how debate works.